Thursday, December 03, 2009

Today With Valhalla


From One People's Project


BROOKLYN, NY - Without the prosecution calling three federal judges to the stand as intended, or the defense calling any witnesses at all, both camps in Hal Turner's federal trial rested their cases today after two final witnesses, one an FBI agent and another, a Deputy US Marshall. The defense, which subpoenaed the Gov.-elect of New Jersey to testify, said the prosecution did not make their case that the white supremacist internet radio host was actually attempting to incite violence against three federal judges in Chicago as charged, while the prosecution said otherwise.

In all, the prosecution called six witnesses - five FBI agents and one Deputy U.S. Marshall - out of a reported 18 they had intended to call. Those that were not called included the three judges that were allegedly threatened. Lead Prosecutor William Hogan said after all of the evidence they had presented over the past few days, it was not necessary to call anymore witnesses. "We feel like we proved our case," he said.

Meanwhile, the defense felt that the prosecution attempted to make things convoluted by bringing up issues they felt were not relevant to the case. According to Lead Defense Attorney Michael Orozco, the prosecution was stopped from presenting some evidence such as blog postings and emails on the grounds that it was an attempt to prove a solicitation case as opposed to an incitement case. "It was the prosecution again trying to muddy the waters," he said, referring to the perceived attempts during the trial.

Indeed, a series of emails and blog entries were read into the record by both witnesses today, and the defense indicated for each time that the none of them resulted in Turner's arrest, indicating he was not committing any crimes with any of his writings. Deputy Marshall James Elcik testified to even going to his home to interview him on June 25, 2008 about one of his postings, that of the children and grandchildren of US Supreme Court Justices. Turner was upset about the Court's ruling that there will be no death penalty for those convicted of raping children, but an hour after the interview, where it was asked that he remove the information on those family members, he did so, saying that he misspoke.

Dep. Elcik also testified that in Oct. 2008, Turner left him a phone message saying he had information about a truck bomb threat to the courthouse in Roanoke, VA. While the information was not detailed, that was the month in which fellow neo-Nazi Bill White was arrested on charges that he had threatened a juror in the trial of World Church of the Creator's Matt Hale when he was charged and eventually convicted of soliciting the murder of a federal judge, also in Chicago. For some time afterward, he frequently spoke with Turner, who later sent him an email in an effort to be an informant for US Marshals. A little more than a year earlier, the FBI, whom Turner had informed for previously, had ended their association, noting his status "closed for cause", meaning he was no longer suitable for the government to maintain his informant status. The reason citied was "serious control problems".

Turner never became an informant for the US Marshals. Bill White eventually had the charges in his case on him dropped, but he is still due to stand trial next week in Roanoke on threats towards others he has made.

In an interview after today's proceedings, Orozco painted Turner as a "extremely patriotic individual" who, as evidenced by his Hispanic lawyers, his wife having a Jewish doctor, him once chairing the New Jersey gubernatorial campaign of third-party candidate Murray Sabrin, who is Jewish in 1996, and his working relationship with a African American FBI agent, that he is not a racist.

Orozco also maintains that Turner had been working with the FBI as far back as 2002, not June 12, 2003, which was shown during the trial. It was early in 2002 that Turner became openly involved in white power circles, him publicly saying that he did so in response to the NJ Republican Party passing him over as a congressional candidate in 2000 for a Hispanic woman who eventually lost to now- Senator Robert Melendez. It had been maintained by Turner and his defense team that it was the FBI who encouraged and paid him to take on the role of a violent hatemonger, and that this trial is a betrayal of him on the part of the FBI. While Orozco admitted they did not have documentation showing a possible 2002 affiliation, there is documentation showing that in 1993, while working for the Pat Buchanan presidential campaign, the FBI approached him to determine if questionable elements were involved as well. Orozco said Turner cooperated with the authorities, but was unable to provide any information.

Another matter that had surfaced leading up to the trial was the possibility of New Jersey Gov.-Elect Chris Christie testifying to a letter the defense claimed was a "blanket declaration" by then US Attorney Christie that Turner was not going to be prosecuted for anything he did while an FBI informant. According to Orozco, there had been two US Marshals that mentioned the letter, and if certain evidence was presented by the prosecution, the defense wanted to call Christie to speak on the matter. "We believe it existed." Orozco said of the letter. "We believe it was drafted by Christie sometime during his tenure." Christie had been served a subpoena on Tuesday, and was still conferring with his advisors on the matter. To that end, Orozoco says that anyone who has issues with how Turner's antics during the time he was working with the government, such as places that he held rallies such as Kalamazoo, Michigan, Liberty State Park in Jersey City, NJ and Kingston, NY, not to hold his client accountable. "Tell them to go to the FBI," Orozoco said. "It's not Mr. Turner's problem!" The Mayor of Kingston, NY has in fact approached the FBI for reimbursement for costs accrued during Turner's 2005 hate rally.

Closing statements will begin on Friday, and the jury is expected to get the case by the afternoon.



Anticlimatic? Of course it is. For all of the posturing and hoopla surrounding this case much more was certainly expected. As a taxpayer, I deeply resent the money that was spent by the federal government to procure the services of such an individual. As someone who has been involved in watching and reporting on criminal and unsavory activity conducted by organized racist groups, I can attest to the fact that there are many individuals out there who infiltrate and garner pertinent information without ever being paid one red cent. And the job that they do has resulted in many more arrests and convictions than Hal Turner was ever responsible for.

Regardless of the verdict, Turner is nothing more than a money-making clown who has no integrity and no loyalties. Was he used by the feds? Of course he was. But, the joke might very well end up being on federal law-enforcement.

Regardless of which side of the fence you happen to be on in this issue it should be a great lesson to all that jerks like Turner and those who would employ them are dangerous to all of us. Big Brother really is watching - with the eyes and ears of little round, cigar smoking, braggarts who couldn't care less about any of us. They'll throw us all under the bus without ever looking back.

12 comments:

  1. Good report by DLJ, much more comprehensive than anything the mainstream media put out. Too bad DLJ's an anti; he could have a career as a journalist.

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  2. Wouldn't surprise me if they didn't make a plea, and it will be announced soon.

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  3. "Regardless of which side of the fence you happen to be on in this issue it should be a great lesson to all that jerks like Turner and those who would employ them are dangerous to all of us. Big Brother really is watching - with the eyes and ears of little round, cigar smoking, braggarts who couldn't care less about any of us. They'll throw us all under the bus without ever looking back. "

    I tried to tell you. Turner is a slimeball, but as bad as Turner is the government has proven itself to be 10 times worse.

    Nikki is correct: The way the government handled this should scare the shit out of everyone.

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  4. No you are an asshole. The government is doing okay. Hal needed to be locked up. I hope he gets ten years.

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  5. Hopefully Turner will get the full ten years and they will be able to get him in prison before Christmas. They should give him a cell with no chimney so Santie don't come and see him either.

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  6. Goddamn, you pay your beaner lawyers your hard earned government snitch money and they take a siesta when your ass is on the line.

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  7. Shut your pie hole you stupid fucking Gringo!

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  8. """Anonymous said...No you are an asshole. The government is doing okay. Hal needed to be locked up. I hope he gets ten years."""

    Directly from the mouth of a government employee.

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  9. Hooch\Von said:

    "Directly from a government employee."

    Where is the proof of that, Hoochie? You on the other hand collect Welfare and sponge off fat girls and rape daughters. Court order from seeing same.

    You a piece of shit Hooch, maybeso.

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  10. Can I straighten something out? There is no such court order saying that Vonbluvens can't see his children.

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    Ping ASSWIPE always whining about jobs. Jobless Rate declined.Jobless Rate Declines

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  12. """Shitpants Said... Where is the proof of that, Hoochie? You on the other hand collect Welfare and sponge off fat girls and rape daughters. Court order from seeing same."""

    Boring response, same old bullshit over and over. Shitty and some others around here have some problems coming up with something original.

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