Eye On Hate : Saturday Dec.16, 2006 - 825pm
Just recieved a phone from DLJ who is in Jacksonville, FL for a concert and benifit for OPP that was to be held tonight ( Saturday). The show was canceled- The windows of the club were shot-out around 4 or 5am this morning - the police advised the club mangaer to shut down the concert. While this concert was shut down for tonight, the concert/show itself wasn't canceled just moved to a different date, the new concert date will be on Martin Luther King week-end - DLJ said that details about the concert will be forth-coming - DLJ also stated that the shooting was done by "confederate hammerskins" and that he will have more "info" later tonight, which I will post here.
Floyd
Do you have any evidence of this shooting besides Daryle Jenkins ? The Sheriff's department has no record of a shooting report from that address.
ReplyDeleteJacksonville Police were the ones who responded. And I will put the pics up today on the OPP site
ReplyDeleteJacksonville's Police are dispatched through the Sheriff's department. They use the same contact number, and the police blotter shows no record of this. I followed up with a call to the media relations department and there's no record of any response to that address. However they did find two unrelated shooting calls that night on other streets. The receptionist told me the neighborhood was "really dark", and if it happend, "it was probably a drug deal or vandalism".
ReplyDeleteI don't believe any skinheads did this at 4 a.m. in the morning. Perhaps you were knocked in the head to hard during that beating you took last month.
You accused people of doing this but in the same report it says the building was empty. I see no evidence here at all to justify your finger pointing. Unless there's some evidence your allegations are slander.
This is Florida, shit happens around here, and most shit happening in "dark" neighborhoods is being done by "dark" people. Whites don't go into those areas at 4 a.m. in the morning.
No employee or spokesman of any Sheriff's department would describe an incident as
ReplyDelete"was "really dark", and if it happend, "it was probably a drug deal or vandalism
Warren, you are about to make yourself look like an asshole (well, moreso). It happened. Police were dispatched and were there for hours. The bullet holes are in the windows and there are pics of them. the club closed that night because of it. Bands and people were turned away because of it. The club is downtown and around the corner from a police station. Perhaps you got knocked in the head your damn self!
ReplyDeleteAny proof(other than speculation) that the CHS are involved in this?
ReplyDeleteNone whatsoever Bluvens. Here's the address if you want to look into it, The Imperial 325 W. Forysth St. Jacksonville, Florida.
ReplyDeleteI had already verified that the windows were broken, and that's all pictures would show anyway. A picture of broken glass doesn't prove your conspiracy one iota. In that part of town it could have been anything from thug vandalism to crack dealing killers with bad aim.
As for Mrs. Cleo, he's the only asshole here because he accused people on some hunch. Even with a gut as big as his a gut-feeling is not credible.
Let's get this straight: A Nazi from Florida is here to try and convince people that this didn't happen.
ReplyDeleteThat's all anyone needs to know. Never try to challenge me on the facts, chump. I don't say shit that I can't back up, and if I don't say something more it's because it is not the place and you are not the person to say it to. Slander you say? Then sue me! I would LOVE to walk into a courtroom over this!
Now let's take a look at you. First you try to say police did not have a record of this. They were on the scene for a few hours, and if you went to the club, you saw where they numbered the places where the shots hit the building. Then you go on the obligatory routine of complaining about what "dark" people do. Well, this time it wasn't "dark" people responsible. Sounds like you need to get over yourself...and stop trying to cover for your friends while you are at it.
Oh, did I slander you?
I am not convinced of any sort of conspiracy. When you publically point the finger you should at least back it up or be prepared to do so.
ReplyDeleteYou mean like the bullshit you and Bill White say about me being gay or a member of the RCP or a cop that was fired from the force because of my political beliefs, etc...
ReplyDeleteDon't worry. I am prepared.
I won't hold my breath for any substantive proof...you are obviously stonewalling.
ReplyDeleteYou can't convince someone who is severely mentally ill like Vonbluvens of anything.
ReplyDeleteYou still got that picture of the eviction notice he got from that halfway house in Roanoke???
No Vonnie. I don't have to explain myself to you. But if folks want to see stonewalling, let's see how you respond to this: Last year during Toledo, you said that One People's Project passed out the rocks and the eggs that were hurled at cops. You said it on I believe Hal Turner's radio show, and I saved it - while home that day in Jersey City just before I went to an event I hosted in Brooklyn. That means I wasn't there in Toledo. No one from OPP was. Now I noticed that you didn't answer my last post. Answer this one. What prompted you to even say something so obviously libelous?
ReplyDeleteYes Harry, I do. It is actually on a video.
Schwartzo the KIKE had his Ass handed to him today on Nim Busters. Now he's back over here running his hole.
ReplyDeleteIf thre was anything to what Daryl was saying it would have materialized by now. Just more BS from the far left.
ReplyDeleteIsis is right. National Socialism and it's close cousin of Communism are far left of center. National Socialism is a form of communism in itself when you break it down to it's simplest components.
ReplyDeleteIf you look at the way Stalin ran his government and the way Hitler ran his government, you'll see they are almost identical.
DLJ:
ReplyDeleteVonnie can't authoritatively speak about Toledo, as he wasn't there. Anything he spouted off about the riot on his podcast he parroted from his Obersturmbannführer Bill White.
OPP was not present at Toledo I, except in spirit. The antifa were all local, with a smattering of Ann Arbor and Bowling Green protesters. 90% of the protesters lived in the neighborhood.
Also, you'll have to forgive the Nazis for attempting to distort reality vis a vis the Jacksonville incident. obfuscation of historical reality is their stock in trade, and they don't know any better.
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As far as the left-versus-right debate:
ReplyDeleteNational Socialism has more in common with the far right than the far left. The only thing "leftist" about the Nazis is their misuse of the word "socialist" in their name.
Hitler and Stalin were both leaders of totalitarian regimes, but on opposite ends of the political spectrum. Communists and Nazis consider each other to be nearly polar opposites (and diametrically opposed enemies), although one might argue that there should be a political circle instead of a line.
I once heard a poli sci prof argue that the Nazis went so far left that they wound up on the far right.
History Mike,
ReplyDeleteI've discovered that the far-right and the far-left end up being the exact same thing.
If you study Stalin and Hitler, you'll find they ran their countries nearly the same way. They took away the rights of all who disagreed with them. And both killed countless of millions in order to cleanse their countries. The governments operated the same way and both countries desired military conquest of the world.
Isis: most people like to define the right vs left as a straight line. But it's actually a circle.
ReplyDeleteOn the bottom of the circle is normalcy. The left of the circle is liberalism and the right of the circle is conservatism. On top of the circle is extremism.
If you start with normalcy and go to the left, if you go far enough, you'll end up at the top with extremism. The same with the right.
The far right and the far left meet at the top of the circle and are identical.
A few things to note:
ReplyDelete1. Vonnie, that's twice you didn't respond to charges of lying about me. That means you know you are full of shit. I know a bit about the current situation in your private life. You are in no position to fuck with me, and I will be spending a bit more time in Florida over the next few months. If you worried about your daughters as much as you worried about me, you might have been a better father.
2. If you were a Bolshevik in Nazi Germany, you would have been shot. Hitler was a huge anti-communist, and termed it a Jewish plot.
3. Mike, I had sent lawyers after Bill once before, and I really should have when that shit came out. I am not going to let him slide too much longer.
The local Fox affiliate has reported on the story, and the video should be up shortly.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.fox30online.com/content/topstories/story.aspx?content_id=b2c4d5a3-6366-4d06-8405-0facd598f766
Downtown Bar & Club Littered With Bullet Holes
Last Update: 12/20/2006 10:45:33 PM
Posted By: Andrea Kendrick
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- A downtown Jacksonville bar and club looks like a shooting gallery, its windows pierced by bullets.
Thee Imperial, which is located on W. Forsyth Street, has at least eight bullet holes in its windows, a product of an early Saturday morning shooting, an Imperial employee said. No one was inside the club when the shooting occurred and no one was hurt.
Thee Imperial was planning an anti-racism concert for Saturday night, the employee said, and they believe the shooting might have been the work of white supremacists, trying to intimidate them. They say that, at the suggestion of police, they cancelled the concert for safety reasons.
The shooting happened around 2-3 a.m. It was the second shooting at a business on this block of W. Forsyth Street in the past month. In late November, the River City Deli had a bullet go through one of its windows, shattering a mirror inside the restaurant. No one was hurt in that shooting either.
Isis: if you use economic terms, National Socialism is left wing.
ReplyDeleteThe National Socialist don't want a free-market system. They want a controlled system where they are in complete control. Jews, gays, and any others they dislike would not be allowed to take part and ultimately exterminated. Businesses would only be allowed to exist if they conformed with the government.
To be a nazi in America means having to hate the US constitution.
Nazism is very similar to the communism that the USSR had.
Isis: I said far left because we WN folks are usually classified as extreme right wingers by folks such as Daryl. I personally don't classify myself as a right winger...Economically speaking I would be considered a progressive. I don't think the terms left and right is very accurate indicator...we are way past those days in France.
ReplyDeleteMike:Speaking of totalitarian regimes-seems like there is an anti-racist one in Canada right now.
DLJ: As far as you are concerned all I asked for was some form of confirmation.
No, you don't have to answer to "me" but I am sure other folks were thinking the same thing and not ALL of them "Nazis" to be sure.
Isis: Agree with you on the Free Speech, even for Nazis who call for the elimination of it for their enemies.
ReplyDeleteThere is an alarming trend about free speech in the way that Arab-Americans are being treated. If I were to form a pro-Al Qaeda group in America, I would be arrested.
Vonbluvensshow: Why don't you ask for verification of a story when a National Socialist comes out with a story?
Chris, I am not worried by his empty threats.
ReplyDeleteI am all here by my lonesome and not bothering no one.
If he feels froggy he can jump...I don't care.
Chris Drake: If the USSR was Jewish why did............
ReplyDeletea) they shut down all the synagogues?
b) supply weapons to the Arabs to destroy Israel with?
c) work to destroy America which you also claim is run by the Jews?
d) Why do you really hate Jews and blacks????
Nazi Germany and the USSR were the same form of government. Both were horrible governments that killed countless millions of civilians. Both governments suppressed freedom of speech and religion. Both governments sought world conquest. Both governments claimed to be democracies but yet only allowed approved candidates to run for political office.
ReplyDeleteThe only reason the USSR and Nazi Germany turned on each other is their egos.
Chris Drake and Vonbluvensshow would be in for a big surprise if they think their lives would improve under a national socialist/communist form of government.
Chris Drake calls Blevins religion "talmudic"
ReplyDeleteChris Drake hasn't done any activism in Aiken or Augusta in many years. He goes out of town to do his activism. He feels safe going to Laurens for a private meeting. His currently activism consist of posting in here and appearing on the Blevins podcast.
Chris Drake is 100% freightened of Bill White. Ever since his master White dropped out of the NSM, Chris Drake has become an inactive member of the NSM.
Chris Drake is so afraid of Bill White that he refuses to back his beloved NSM against a lawsuit brought against them by Bill White.
Chris Drake has a history of prostituting himself in WN circles. He's been a Creator, National Allliance member, National Vanguard Member, White Revolution member, NSM member and countless skinhead groups. Drake has dropped out of all them or been expelled. He claims to be a member of the NSM but has been declared inactive becasue of the lack of activity.
Chris Drake is well known within the Aiken Sheriff Department, not for his beliefs, but become of his criminal record. Since there are two Chris Drake's in the area with an extensive criminal history, I don't want to publish the wrong "Chris Drake".
Unit9
ReplyDeleteNS and Communism have nothing in common ideologically.
When the Soviet Union was established the first law passed was to make Anti-Semitism punishable by death? Do you think rabbid anti-semites passed this? I was amazed when Jew broadcaster, Dennis Praeger, mentioned this fact yesterday. The initial establishment of the U.S.S.R. was definately Jewish, it just didn't stay that way...I suppose the Jewish commisars went a little too far killing starving millions of white Christians in the Ukrain...
Harry, why are you trying to destroy one of the few threads where discussion is actually taking place?
ReplyDeleteChris Drake: that's a 3rd party site.
ReplyDeleteIn just 14 short years, National Socialism lead to the complete destruction of Germany. You count that as being a success?
Hitler never had more then 37 percent of the vote for Chancellor prior to him becoming dictator. He got into power because of a back room deal with the very weakened Weimar Republic government. Hindenburg swore in Hitler to help save the country.
Once he got into power, Hitler immediately declared a national emergency under the Weimar constitution under Article 48 n, which granted dictatorial powers to the president in times of national emergency. Hitler never called off the national emergency.
Nazism only thrived in Germany for a very short time because of the economic mess that Germany was in. The treaty Germany agreed to that ended World War I lead to the economic chaos.
And for German elections, once the nazis got into power, they suspended the rights for anyone to run opposed to them & eliminated all opposition from their parliament. Then the nazis imprisoned or killed any opposition of them.
The parallels to the governments of the USSR and Germany are totally similar in structure and nature. Hitler and Stalin were like two bulls in a herd of cows. That's why they clashed.
Vonbluvens: Why did the USSR shut down all the synagogues during their reign there?
ReplyDeleteStalin wasn't Jewish and Lenin was an Orthodox Christian. Trotsky was jewish but got killed by Stalin thugs in Mexico.
There was no law making antisemitism a death penalty offense in the USSR, don't believe everything you are told. Use the same standard that you ask of DLJ.
What the USSR ran wasn't communist at all but socialist. Once Hitler got into power, he modeled his government after the Stalinist government of the USSR.
Millions of Jews and Orthodox Christians did die under the USSR run government. Millions of jews and Christians died under the Hitler government. Both were horrible evil governments.
The best form of government is the United States constitution. But that applies to everyone Vonbluvens, including Jews.
Well Isis,
ReplyDeleteI guess I did waste a whole whopping 5 minutes of my time dealing with cowards like Chris Drake today. Drake hasn't done a thing in the CSRA in years and he shitted his pants when his master Bill White got thrown out of the NSM.
If Drake was such a big time activist in Aiken and Augusta, you figure he would be able to prove his activism by showing us some newspaper articles or other proof. I bet he is just like Vonbluvens, only an activist on the web but can't even be one around their own family. He feels safe going to private meetings in Laurens, about 60 miles from Bath, SC.
Private investigations is about what I do for a living, finding addresses and information of people who owe medical bills & court judgements.
I got a tip from a "friend in Roanoke" who told me where Blevins was living in Florida and who he got married to. My "friend in roanoke" loves to play both sides. I fully support what this "friend in Roanoke" has done.
I've been spending a lot more time working on a database of holocaust deniers and more classier racist like Jared Taylor. I'm working with THHP and Nizkor on this database.
Well, this makes 10 minutes I have spent on unimportant idiots.
Call it being bored or just too lazy to find anything else to do last night (wednesday Dec 20 ), I decided to tune in Hal Turner - I listened for awhile , Hal as always spent the better part of an hour ranting about something,this week it's the collaspe of the "dollar" - it wasnt till the call-in part did the show get interesting - One of two things took place last night, either we arnt the only ones who dislike Hal Turner or Hal is playing one of his "fundraising" games. Let me explain -
ReplyDeleteHal at the beginning of the program alluded that some people in a irc chat room where going to disrupt Hal show and sure enough when the call-in segiment started the first few callers where "people" who ask questions,made comments or just hung up when Hal answered the phone -
Hal true to form threatened to send racist skinheads to the callers home - today on Hal's site he has spent the better half of the day writing about the people who called his show and that he is going to post thier phone numbers on his website - what makes me think this is one of Turner's outrageous fundraising tactics is he hasnt posted anyones phone number or address , claimed the irc room is closed and has spent a large amount of time and effort talking about something as petty as prank callers.
So, if it truely happened that some IRC people called in, keep it up and dont worry about Hal sending racist boneheads (skinheads) to your home, Hal is a blow hard who likes hearing the sound of his own voice and the ruffles of dollars bills as he looks for way to scam his listeners for cash.
Hal is a prime example of the no-where man, he is no-where in life so he has to blame others for his failures - if Hal didnt have an internet connection, a microphone and suckers to send him money he would be picking up cans long side the highway and living life in a padded room.
Floyd
Vonnie, if that's all you wanted, then the news story will have to suffice for now.
ReplyDeleteChris, spare me the shit-talking. I heard it before. Unlike you however, I will put my money where my mouth is. You know that. But I won't argue the point any further. Go ahead and respond. You can have the last word. I will have the last action.
Oh, and Vonnie? Part of what I can use against you is the fact that you did not respond (again) to the posts regarding how you lied about me.
ReplyDeleteone parting shot.
ReplyDeleteThe severely mentally ill Vonbluvens considers it to be "intelligent conversation" after Chris Drake spent paragraphs attacking Mr. Jenkins. But if you dare go after Mr. Drake, it's a different story and "ruining" the thread.
And Chris, show us the evidence YOU are passing out fliers or doing anything in the Augusta/Aiken area. Again, you point out examples many miles from where you live. Like in North Georgia. Show us the articles from the newspapers with your name in it.
If you have knife scars, probably done by your own kind since you have quite a history of assault. You've been in quite a few fights with your own beloved skinheads.
I don't know for sure but I bet Chris Drake is another one of these mentally ill nazis drawing social security checks for their paranoia. Just like Hal Turner, Michael Blevins, Frank Weltner, August Kreis,Steve Holsten, and countless others nazis. All unemployed. Maybe if the Government would make these nazis work for a living instead of sitting at home, they wouldn't have the energy to promote hate.
Ummmm, or else what, Chris? You'll write another paragraph?
ReplyDeleteAnd that's a good question: When have you not done what you said you was going to do? Here's a better question: What have you done?
ReplyDeleteThat last sentence sums it all up, m' boy...
ReplyDeleteFloyd Cock Hound, you better ask that Shit skin Mongrel who went to Hal's home if Hal is so harmless or not. The Bastard was hauled off in an ambulance...
ReplyDeleteChris Drake said:
ReplyDeleteAnd of coarse I've been in fights with other skinheads before, big deal. We are a fighting subculture. More often than not though, if it was with other skins, it was mostly for fun or just people testing one another. Its part of being Aryan and just as important, its part of being a man and growing up.
So violence and fighting each other is part of being Aryan? That's a new one. I'm white and didn't have to fight other Aryans to test myself or others.
It's not the sign of a subculture, that's a sign of having no culture. That's the way animals act in the wild.
Chris, it is definately entertaining to be sure. That news article DLJ posted speculates about who could have done the deed but it is just that:speculation.
ReplyDeleteI also think it is interesting how he makes veiled threats out of the blue as well.
I do like the NS vs. Soviet Union debate.
Unit9: A lot of your questions could be answered by going to jewwatch. I don't think it is a biased source since most of the source material came from Jews.
It is a good place to start anyway.
I am all for peace.
ReplyDeleteMerry Christmas!
I'll call a truce for a moment since you brought up the outdoors.
ReplyDeleteI'm surprised we've never met Chris Drake. I've kayaked but usually along the Broad River near Columbia. It's not real technical but still has plenty of rocks from the dam til the Gervais Street bridge. The Saluda River from Lake Murray is also another place we have tried. Never got around to going on the Savannah River north of Augusta where the fault line starts.
I'm no expert at kayaking though and have never done really tough courses, my wife simply doesn't like them.
We have been kayaking and canoeing down at swamps at Aiken State Park. Even saw an alligator in the water there. It's peaceful down there.
There's great kayaking in Pickens and Greenville county. Don't know if you have been there or not but if you haven't, you're missing something.
Haven't been kayaking or canoeing since coming to Maryland. Hopefully that will change next year.
I guess my biggest claim to fame is having done 1,600 miles of the Appalachian trail. If I didn't have this mortgage now, I would have finished it this year.
Shame your such a bigot, if it weren't for that, we might have something in common for the love of the outdoors. Just look at how peaceful the outdoors is and ask yourself why you have to hate with such rage?
I was right Chris. All you will do is write more if I keep going after Vonnie. And you must know exactly what I am talking about if you are so defensive about me going after him. And it should be noted that if you WANT to be on the Rogue's Gallery, you WILL be! That has been a standing rule for a long time. That's how you got to know Vonnie! The thing about you is there's nothing about you that warrants it. Your pic's on the site from Kingston, and that's all we need to put up.
ReplyDeleteAnd let's be real: Who takes the bitching of Nazis seriously? The only way they do is by making that which they bitch about more popular.
Chris Drake wrote: "white-hating warriors" - Chris, my question to you is:where you do you get the idea that we (anti racists) hate whites ? - being anti racist doesnt equal hating whites - one can be proud of thier heritage with out endorsing groups such as the KKK or professing love for men in brownshirts and funny mustashes - there is a big difference between being proud of who are and hating other people.
ReplyDeleteChris while you and Von Bluvie brag about your exploits ( scars and kayaking ect ), lets be serious here for a minute or two - what have the either of you done that has made a true contribution to the world and to America ?
Yeah know Chris , in many ways you almost seem normal, like someone who might be fun to hang out with - if you would put aside you ill founded ideas of race and Hitler, who knows where you could go in life -
Floyd
Chris is one hell of a fighter for the movement. I predict one day he is going to be known for future exploits.
ReplyDeleteIf Daryl thinks he is just a net warrior then he has another thing coming.
I honestly don't know what Daryl keeps harping about me for. He says he is going to go after me...for what I honestly don't know.
Chris may be right...Daryl must percieve me as weak and figures I would be an easy target. Perhaps Christmas will come early and DLJ will show up at my door.
It is all so damn stupid.
Chris,
ReplyDeleteBeen in Beaufort a few times but never for recreation but business. Visited nearby Parris Island. It seems to be a good area, but it is growing really fast. I hope it doesn't ruin the eco-system. My family owns a house in Hilton Head but I find HH to be full of snobs and overly protected rich property owners.
Don't know if I'll ever get a chance to do the Savannah River but if me and the mrs ever do trips again in SC, we'll keep it in mind.
SE Georgia swamps - it's not the alligators and snakes but the mosquitoes and no-see ums. Wouldn't mind doing it winter but no way I'm going in there in the summer. Never had kayaked in the ocean.
I'm hoping to get a Garmin 76csx GPS unit for Christmas (yes, we celebrate Christmas, not Hanukkah), in part to explore the Potomac River here in Maryland and it's tributaries this spring. I use a Geko GPS now, it's small and light which makes it perfect for hiking but I want one that does all the bells and whistles.
Chris, hit me up at antifa@onepeoplesproject.com, and I will give you the number. This conversation needs to leave this thread. We need to talk a bit.
ReplyDeleteFound this at OPP:
ReplyDelete“We are inviting like-minded people to organize actions against local neo-Nazis in their area. We are specifically asking people to organize outings and home demonstrations against any local fascists they know about. We are calling this day of action so we can send a unified message to these fascists; organizing our actions on the same day - outside of their homes and jobs and right before Christmas - will send the strongest message, and will prove that anti-racists will do whatever it takes to bring this fascist organizing to a grinding halt.
As of today, actions are being planned in Philadelphia, Baltimore and
Northern New Jersey, with plans in the works for other parts of
Pennsylvania and New Jersey.”
One question: Does this call to "action" include OPP (since the announcement was on the OPP site) or is it just a blanket call for others to do this?
Von, check out what KIKE Schwartzo is saying about you on his Shit Blog
ReplyDeletehttp://harryschwartz.blogspot.com/
Elmer, my favorite is this gem:
ReplyDelete"His threats for people to come visit him have put the lives of children at his wife's daycare at risk and he is currently being investigated by Sarasota County officials."
How is it "I" am making a threat when it is him and others that have stated they would like to come down here and do this and that? Amazing.
If this joker actually thought I was as crazy as he says I doubt very seriously he would screw with me as much as he has.
LOL
I have to comment further because this is about the most convoluted thought process I have ever seen in print.
ReplyDeleteHow am I doing anything when OTHERS say they are going to come here to attack me and my family?
I remember when Schwartz made his threats...I remember some of the other veiled threats over the years as well.
So, "I" am going to be investigated and held responsible for threats "others" make against me?
Von, we found out years ago that Schwartzo's threats are as empty as his Jewboy KIKE big head.
ReplyDeleteThe Pussy now says that he's not going to do anything to me; that nature will take it's course on me.
He's just a Keyboard Rambo who likes to run his hole about others, but he can't back up a thing he says.
Chris,
ReplyDeleteBelieve it or not, I have never seen Forrest Gump. I'll get the Mrs to add it to her Netflix account.
You should be out kayaking this weekend, I understand you got a ton of rain, would make it more of a challenge. I'm a novice and I'll credit that you are much more an expert on them than I am.