Saturday, August 12, 2006

EXTREMES

Video games, sports, movies, music, and society, in general, are often peppered with extremes in one form or another and with every generation the envelope is pushed just a little further. Thrill seeking, adrenaline rushes, how high, how far, how fast, how big, etc. seems to define that search for the utmost in whatever the endeavor.

Reality shows leave us breathless, exhilarated, or shaking our heads at the lengths some people will go to for fortune, fame, or just one moment of ecstatic accomplishment. All of this begs the question, how extreme is too extreme?

In summer extreme heat is responsible for the deaths of many people just as extreme cold is in winter. In sports, death and injuries are not at all uncommon and the statistics rise even higher with the nature of the challenge. Over the last three decades movies and television have come under great criticism as the violence and sex portrayed is decried as unnecessary and without reason.

Music has experienced its’ own share of extremes with the genres of rap, gothic, death metal, and hatecore. Lyrics have become brutal and often gruesome and without melodic content. Often the lyrics are hateful and hurtful and, unfortunately, most appreciated by the youth.

But extremism isn’t reserved just for sports, or the arts, or games. Just as those areas seem to increase in fanaticism so does crime, fashion, and even our speech or the acceptance, thereof.

The ideology of white nationalism or neo-Nazism has long been considered the dogma of the “lunatic fringe.” However, as society becomes more tolerant and accepting of other forms of extremism, the intemperate speech of those who adhere to those tenets becomes more strident, more obstreperous than ever before.

While lobbyist groups take to the Hill in an effort to censor or curb the extremes of certain sports, music, games, etc., little is done to hinder the spoken word for to do so, would surely mean the demise of the Constitution and all that is protected under that document. Yet, it is interesting to note that in the area of extreme sports much has been and is being done to make such activities safer. Within music, many rap artists have chosen to make their lyrics reflective of everyday life without the extreme obscenities that have generally characterized the genre. Congress has insisted that movie-makers, at the very least, issue a parental rating scale with each new production and the same is true with video games.

Given the obvious attempt to provide safety or some sort of warning when it comes to certain areas of our lives, it is difficult to understand the hesitancy to provide the same when it comes to the incitement of violence by a public figure. Take, for example, Hal Turner.

Hal turner is an internet radio shock-jock who is racist, anti-Semitic, and who considers himself to be the great white hope and somewhat of a messiah when in reality, he is a bigoted, though talented, blow-hard with a microphone and a penny-ante broadcasting network.

Turner has long been lambasted by the anti-racist crowd for his bilious defamation of non-whites, Jews, and homosexuals. Recently he has turned his wrath to illegal immigration and those who are Jewish.

In 2005, Turner offered himself up as a “leader” in the white supremacist movement, saying “"There is a leadership vacuum in the pro-white movement and it looks like I'm going to have to step up and fill the position. I'm ready if you'll have me. Because the people who have been saying, 'Oh violence, you can't talk violence,' you're fags. You have achieved nothing. Get out of the way.


"If you want social change in this country, if you want the homos shoved back in the closet, if you want the border with Mexico sealed, if you want the illegal aliens rounded up and deported out of the country, if you want the niggers and the spics to stop beating up, raping, robbing white people; well, guess what folks, it's going to take violence. ... That's the reality. It is going to take violence."


Since that point he has advocated murder and genocide on a routine basis and continuously attempts to incite others to violence both on his internet broadcast and his website. For most in the anti-racist movement it is difficult to understand how such outright cries for wholesale blood-letting can go unnoticed or unpunished – especially in a post September 11th world.

Last year, August Kreis, new head of Aryan Nations, announced that he wanted to form an alliance with Al Qaeda, for the purpose of “instilling the same jihadic feeling in our people.” Earlier this year, Kevin Alfred Strom of National Vanguard sent a letter to the Iranian government hoping to do much the same thing. This seems to be the trend – and Hal Turner wanted on the bandwagon.

Attempting to capitalize on the unfortunate events that have unfolded between Israel and Lebanon, Hal Turner has decided that helping Mid-Eastern warriors to cleanse the area of all Jews would be in the best interest of all white people therefore he is now calling upon those Middle-Eastern terrorists, along with other “White Patriots,” to commit murder both in the Middle-East and here at home.
With headlines such as:

WANT REVENGE?
TIRED OF ISRAELI VIOLENCE AGAINST INNOCENT PEOPLE?
WANT TO RETALIATE?
HERE'S WHERE THE JEWS LIVE! !


"The Hal Turner Show" is pleased to provide this detailed information on where jews live in the New York City area! Have fun!

Of the 1.67 million people in Jewish households who live in New York City and Nassau, Suffolk, and Westchester counties, 84% live in 26 Jewish neighborhoods.

Moreover, one out of four people in Jewish households live in five areas: BROOKLYN: Flatbush/Midwood/Kensington (107,800), Borough Park (82,600), MANHATTAN: Upper East Side (73,300), Upper West Side (71,800), and WESTCHESTER CONTY Central/Southeastern Westchester (64,300).
And…

Target List?
LOCATION OF EVERY JEWISH TEMPLE & SYNAGOGUE IN USA
JEWS SHOULD BE "CONFRONTED" OVER THE MURDERS DONE BY THEIR GOVERNMENT

The link below will allow you to find the location of EVERY jewish Temple and Synagogue in the USA. I would describe this as a "target rich environment."
Hal strives to incite others to seek and destroy those targets claiming that there is no such thing as an “innocent Jew” and that if the Jews can kill innocent people then we should be able to do the same.

As we speak of extremism, it is only natural that we look at the extremism of Hal Turner. Just a few days ago, he published the following on his website:
"If it's legitimate for Israel to assassinate Palestinian and Lebanese Government officials, then it is legitimate for everyone else to assassinate Israeli Officials"

"If it is legitimate for Israel to bomb Palestinian and Lebanese Embassies, Consulates and Government Buildings, then it is legitimate for everyone else to bomb Israeli Embassies, Consulates and government buildings"

"If killing innocent civilians in Gaza and Lebanon is legitimate for Israel, then killing innocent jews is legitimate for everyone else.

“Get the ovens ready. I like my kikes well done.”

In this age of extreme goings-on, it might be natural for many to think that the above, while outrageous, is just another ‘over-the-top’ ranting of some shock jock and that no one would take him seriously – no one in their right mind, at least.
Well…let’s see what some of his “fans” think about what Mr. Turner is suggesting. Here are some of the statements in response to Turner’s suggestions:

In response to Turner’s comment about the ovens, William the Conqueror says, “I’ll take mine dipped in hog lard, iff’n you please.”
Lou in Philly enters and asks if it is okay to kill innocent Jewish children, to which Jessica responds:

“Yes.

“We've shown mercy in the past, and we have suffered for it. The 'Final Solution' is long overdue.”

Additionally, Jessica offers to forward Michael Dell’s (Dell computers) address to Hal so that he can be added to the target list.
And…Locked and Loaded is ready…

“I'm getting really fucking bored folks, let's start killing. Give me a list of Jews in the San Joaquin area and let's get to work! Might give me your address too, so I can gather us all for a big assault.”

Justin Jew H8ter has a couple of Jews on his list for annihilation and he targets Virginia Senator George Allen:

Here's a KIKE in dire need of a rendevous with a huge BASEBALL BAT he's best buddies with SCUMBAG PIECE OF SHIT LIAR Sean Hannity who is also in dire need of a baseball bat across the face ... repeatedly untill dead dead dead !

On and on they rant leaving us questioning, once again, when is extreme too extreme? As laws and ordinances are passed governing the safety of those participating in extreme sports; as music and movies have to specify their appropriateness for certain age groups; and as the threat of terrorism, both foreign and domestic looms over us, is there not as much concern over the Hal Turner’s of the world who incite others to violence?

Even those in the racist movement openly admit that they attract more than a disproportionate share of unstable individuals. Knowing this, one would think that messages of violence such as Hal Turner perpetrates would not find themselves on public venues. As the racist right strives to put forth a new and more acceptable face to mainstream America, one would also think that antics such as Turner’s would be met with severe derision and denounced publicly.

While some individuals do take umbrage with Turner and his approach, there are far too many who cheer him on and urge him to continue his litany of hate. Sooner or later, someone WILL take Hal’s words to heart and attempt to act on them. Let’s hope that whoever that might be is unsuccessful and that Hal Turner takes the fall for his part in the crime.

Generally, extremes of any kind are not seen favorably by most of the world. Certainly, the kind of extreme speech we have discussed is not met with acceptance by many. However, as with any extreme, there will always be someone who has to go a little faster, a little higher, or a little harder. Given the state of extremes that we now have – one should wonder “what next?””How do we top that?” When talking about hate speech – the next step is really frightening – it isn’t a very big leap from talk to action these days.

29 comments:

  1. And Tom Shelly constantly whines, whines, whines, whines, whines, whines, about blacks. Racist never change.

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  2. Yeah, Hal has gotten Schwartz fired from his job and Nikki is so pissed she is deleting any and all
    posts that disagree with her sad nigger loving way of life. What a total cunt. Typical though.

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  3. i read that on nimbusters. i wish hal would post about it. i hope you are right. schwartzie has a bunch of karma coming.

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  4. Haven't been fired from anything. Considering my family owns the business, never going to happen either. Since moving to Maryland, the business has increased greatly.

    However, the same can not be said of Turner. Ever since losing his job at Coldwell Banker, he's been drawing social security for being disabled... just like Michael Blevins and Kenneth Schneider of.

    Hal is just upset that I was able to pull his medical records showing that he is on Medicare & his son is getting Medicaid. You only get on Medicare at Hal's age if you are declared too ill. Since Hal is fine physically, his illness is mental.

    And since Social Security declines most mental disability claims, Turner's mental illness must be severe.

    I'm doing quite fine, very happy to be near the mountains and Appalachian trail.

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  5. Anonymous said...
    "Yeah, Hal has gotten Schwartz fired from his job and Nikki is so pissed she is deleting any and all
    posts that disagree with her sad nigger loving way of life. What a total cunt. Typical though."

    The only way that your posts will remain on this blog is if your cease using racial slurs and epithets in everything you write. It has nothing to do with disagreeing with me and everything to do with the quality, or lack thereof, of your statements. You refuse to address any topic and your only reason for being here is to make your stupid and asinine remarks.

    If you cannot engage in civil discourse, or are unable to discuss issues without the use of profanity and racial slurs - then you really need to find your way to the redneck blog.

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  6. Hal "its all about the money" Turner writes" For the record I recieve a pension and do not need to seek employment."

    Ok Hal, what ever you say - yup we believe you - um Hal ya going to be in Gettysburg ?

    Just wondering ?

    Floyd
    One Peoples Radio

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  7. Hal is right about one thing, if Schwartz did look up his private medical files then Harry would be in big trouble. Anyone who has ever worked in the medical field can tell you that is an offense that will cost you your job... forever if not longer. However, it seems to me that Harry is just looking at records that are public and guessing the rest. In short, Schwartz is full of a lot of crap and plays high and loose with the truth.

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  8. ah yes, schwartzie proved himself to be full of shit a few years ago when he said a couple of times he was going to have vonbluvens and steve put away for 72 hours forced observations in mental hospitals. his threats are as empty as his fat head with a jew nose.

    hal may not get him fired from his own business but he could him for breaking confidentiality laws. schwartzie will break the law in a minute to try to hurt WN and anyone who is not a coon lover like him and nikki.

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  9. That bit about George Allen being Jewish was pretty funny. He's not, of course. I'm sure a lot of folks remember his dad... same name, head coach of the Redskins, took 'em to the Super Bowl in '72, where they lost 14-7 to the Dolphins (that was the Dolphins' perfect 17-0 season)

    Anyway, Allen is a transplanted Californian, but even in Cali he had an affinity for confederate memorabilia, nigger jokes and the like... and he does keep a noose in his office.

    Actually somebody had a real good writeup of him and his racist background and beliefs. I'm trying to remember... it was either Max Blumenthal, TBogg or Jane Hamsher over at Firedoglake.

    Allen's not Jewish, but since birds of a feather flock together, it wouldn't be surprising if he, much like the heads of state of apartheid-era South Africa, felt some sort of deep afinity for Israel that transcends even the usual Christion Zionist/Rapture Ready claptrap.

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  10. Sorry 5'5 inch Hal, your lies aren't going to fly around here.

    I know you are mentally disabled on social security and that your check and your son's check goes into your wife's banking account.

    Second of all, pulling up the fact you are on Medicare isn't against the law. Viewing your unpaid medical records isn't against the law either.

    Third, the reason I know you are mentally disabled is from your wife's bankruptcy filing which included your history of earnings over the past couple of year. Again, all legal information. Your wife isn't innocent because it's her name where all your money from the donatiosn and social security go.

    She is your guardian with Social Security.

    Now, if you want to insist you are not mentally ill & getting a social security check because of it, I can post partial documents that don't violate HIPAA laws showing that I do know what I am talking about.

    I can also promise you the ADL has all this information and much, much more including your cooperation with the North Bergen Police, the FBI, and others you have blabbed on your mouth on. So much for the 5 words.

    You should sick to lying on your website. I realize you are a small man who has to pretend to be big in order to feel better.

    Speaking of which, don't you & your wife have a civil lawsuit being filed against you soon that is going to cost you $1,000s of dollars to defend?

    As far as my employment, it's going quite well. I'm making more money then ever in my life. But I need it with a half million house I am now paying for.

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  11. schwartzie you will go down one of these days. you will run your mouth about a bad boy sometime and they will hurt or kill you.

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  12. I was alerted today about the nonsense posted here by Harry Schwartz.

    I decided to take a look at what was being stated here and was quite surprised to see someone claiming to be ME, fighting with Harry Schwartz!

    For the record, I am the real, actual, 100% true Hal Turner and to prove it, I will post the text from this message on a special page on my real web site www.HalTurnerShow.com after leaving this message.

    The special page which will address this issue will appear at:
    www.HalTurnerShow.com/NikisNest.html

    The person previously claiming to be me CANNOT post any special pages on my web site so that ought to prove he is a fraud.

    The person previously claiming to be me, and utilizing the web page TurnerShow.BlogSpot.com is violating my Copyright and I have just finished notifying Blogspot of the Copyright Infringement.

    I have demanded the infringing material be removed and, in light of this person's wilfull IMPERSONATION of me on _this_ blogspot, I have also asked Blogspot to CANCEL the account of TurnerShow.blogspot.com


    Now that all of you know the person previously claiming to be me is not me, I will proceed to debunk the nonsense posted by Harry Schwartz.

    I did not get fired from Coldwell Banker. I was given a choice:
    EITHER: Remain with Coldwll Banker as a commercial Realtor, OR;
    Maintain my radio show and web site.

    I chose the lattter.

    The choice was mine and mine alone.

    Coldwell Banker was willing to keep me on but they found my web site and radio show incompatible with their corporate image.

    Next, I have not and do not collect social security or any type of government or private disability or pension. I challenge anyone to prove otherwise.

    My son is not disabled or learning impaired at all and he too has never and does not receive any government payments for any reason whatsoever. I challenge anyone to prove otherwise.

    My family and I are covered by private health insurance. We do not use or derive any benefits from any government sponsored insurance program, disability program or social welfare program of any type.

    My wife is not now, and has never been my "Guardian" for any reason. I challenge anyone to prove otherwise.

    My income was not listed in a Bankruptcy because her Bankruptcy was Chapter seven (7) and not Chapter thirteen (13).

    After suffering Thyrhoid cancer and breast cancer, my wife was Bankrupt. She filed personal bankruptcy seeking to be discharged from here debts, NOT seeking to reorganize her debts.

    Had she sought to reorganize her debt, then my income would have come into play. Since she chose to be discharged from her debt, my income did not have to be listed in her filing and was not listed in her filing.

    For all the nonsense posted by you folks over the years, none of you has ever succeeded in discrediting me or shutting me down.

    You folks make things up as you go along and get some of your "useful idiot" friends to repeat your fabrications, but none of that makes anything you say about me, truth.

    You are fighting a useless battle. My site and show are bigger than all of yours combined and will remain that way.

    I am beyond your reach, as as such, usually ignore what you say about me. In this case, however, it is fun to come here and remind you of your powerlessness over me!

    Hal Turner
    (The real one)

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  13. lets see if nikki deletes the fake hal since deletes the fake tom.

    lets see if schwartzie backs up some of his statements about hal or if he is proved to be a liar again.

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  14. Hal,

    How about that secret12@optonline.net email address and the emails you sent to me wanting to having sodomy with me in a prison cell.

    It's okay to be gay Hal but I'm sorry, I'm not gay nor interested.

    Speaking of which Hal, don't be telling lies we can check on like the income thing. I'll wet your appetite just a little bit. We've got every single item from your wife's bankruptcy filing including her mentioning your TAXABLE income as ZERO. Social Security is not taxable income.

    And her bankruptcy filing has no medical at all in it listed as creditors. Nearly all of it is credit card debt along with her keeping the Wells Fargo mortgage. Which has always been in her name, not yours.

    Like I said Hal, you can't lie here and get away with it.
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    to protect Phyllis's privacy, her social security number has been whited out. I can promise you, the ADL has the entire thing along with other information.

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  15. there is no way that schwartz will ever convince us that hal is faggot.

    schwartz only posted one little item that is public record about hal's wife. Federal cases are all online. just like he posted steve's federal civil case just because he watched a little tv.

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  16. Harry:
    I have not disputed the fact that her Bankruptcy filing reports ZERO income from me. It does.

    The REASON it does is because she filed PERSONAL, Chapter 7 Bankruptcy. YOUR OWN form proves it was a Chapter 7 discharge petititon.

    I did not declare Bankruptcy and I was not a joint debtor, therefore my income did not have to be listed and, for the purposes of that case, it was not listed.

    This isn't the first time you've been told this. The facts have not changed since the last time you were told this.

    You continuing to repeat this non-issue as though it is some sort of revealing fact about me is really stupid.

    Harry, what do you hope to achieve? Harm my reputation? You can't. Shutting me up? You can't. Embarrassing me? You can't.

    That must be really frustrating for you.

    As if that wasn't frustrating enough for you, I publicly report $5,000 + a month in contributions from my listeners.

    It must drive you nuts that so much money is coming in to me while folks like you can't scrape two nickels together!

    Harry, you're wasting your time. But you are amusing.

    Hal Turner
    (The Real One)

    ***** This reply will now be added to my web site at
    www.HalTurnerShow.com/NikisNest.html

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  17. Hal Turner is shorter than most women. That explains why he has to act so BIG on the web.

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  18. Hal,

    having you around is a good thing. Because you help discredit white nationalism so much with your manic rantings.

    The fact that you are ripping off white racists is a good thing. It is a small price to pay to have nutcases like you discrediting white nationalism even more. So I don't mind you making money off the paranoids. They deserve to be ripped off and I'm glad you are the one doing it.

    As long as your types are allowed to represent white racism, us anti's have nothing to do except sit back and your types implode on each other.

    If you actually were a threat and not a cash cow for groups like the ADL, you would have been eliminated off the web a while ago.

    When you are able to buy a $500k 3,000 square foot house like I did in Maryland a few months ago, and grow about 8 inches in height, then you can compare yourself to me.

    As for me, If I was crying for attention from others, I would act just like you. But I don't.

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  19. Turns out that digging up information on George Allen's racist beliefs involves no great amount of research. Just give him a microphone and he'll be glad to oblige.

    Here's what he did yesterday.

    What a fu*kin' scumbag.

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  20. Tom Shelly, is not an impersonator, Nikki just deletes his posts because he continually rubs her nose in her hypocrisy and makes her look the fool. 'Nuff said.

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  21. Harry:

    You write: "having you around is a good thing. Because you help discredit white nationalism so much with your manic rantings.

    The fact that you are ripping off white racists is a good thing. It is a small price to pay to have nutcases like you discrediting white nationalism even more. So I don't mind you making money off the paranoids. They deserve to be ripped off and I'm glad you are the one doing it."


    If that were true, then you wouldn't spend so much time and effort attacking me. After all, why attack someone who's doing something you like?


    You also write "As long as your types are allowed to represent white racism, us anti's have nothing to do except sit back and your types implode on each other.

    While your words say one thing, your actions say quite another. In fact, you do quite a bit more than "just sit back. . . . ."

    You publish a web blog, you work with other bloggers to deride and criticize me, you recently began attending pro-white events to protest me, you had your lawyer send a letter to me threatening to sue me if I didn't leave you alone, which I crushed before it ever went further. Not content with that, you stoop to the level of making false accusations that my wife is hispanic and that my son is a retarded half-breed. Frankly, you do everything possible to turn other whites against me. That's hardly "just sitting back. . . ."

    You then write "If you actually were a threat and not a cash cow for groups like the ADL, you would have been eliminated off the web a while ago.

    By whom? There is no one powerful enough to silence me. Not the SPLC, not the ADL, not the FBI. No one. I am beyond the reach of all of them.

    You also write "When you are able to buy a $500k 3,000 square foot house like I did in Maryland a few months ago, and grow about 8 inches in height, then you can compare yourself to me."

    Harry, I have no reason to compare myself to you. You seem to be the one comparing. I guess you're a little insecure? You must be, given the fact that the house you bought is 95% mortgaged with the option for you to pay interest only. If I wanted to go in hock that far, I could. I just choose not to.

    You finish by writing: "As for me, If I was crying for attention from others, I would act just like you. But I don't.

    What do you think all the activites mentioned above amount to, Harry? Cries for attention!

    Here's a pat on the head for you. . . . now go away and play with your little friends like a good boy.


    HT

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  22. http://www.adamsunity.org/speakers.htm
    From the Adams County Unity Coalition-
    Floyd Cochran, civil rights activist, educator, and former high-ranking member of the Aryan Nation, will be visiting the Gettysburg Area the week prior to September 2nd, with several public engagements. Stay tuned for details regarding his lecture schedule! For more information about Floyd, visit www.citizensagainsthate.com/fc.html.

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  23. Dariush- Why don't you also talk about Jim Webb's Nazi cartoon where he calls his Jewish primary opponent the "anti-Christ", and has him drawn with a really big nose and money spilling from his pockets??

    Allen is no innocent, but Webb has someone who worked with Fritz Hollings (remember the racist Senator who claimed the country was being taken over by a "Jewish cabal") Mudcat Saunders who uses a Confederate flag as his bedspread, and Joe Stanley who is a known Dixiecrat racist from Franklin County working on his campaign.

    Both Allen and Webb are racists.

    Vote the green:

    "Gail for Rail"

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  24. :) "Anoymous": "Dariush- Why don't you also talk about Jim Webb's Nazi cartoon where he calls his Jewish primary opponent the "anti-Christ", and has him drawn with a really big nose and money spilling from his pockets??

    Probably 'cuz I don't keep up with neocon talking points. I like the strategy though. Once your guy's been exposed for what he is, turn around and say "the other guy's just as bad, if not worse."

    But thanks for the input, (ahem) "anonymous".

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  25. Once your guy's been exposed for what he is, turn around and say "the other guy's just as bad, if not worse."

    yes we are well aware of this strategy. this is the way that schwartz operates. he proved it this thread where hal kicked his ass.

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  26. Dariush- No, that cartoon that was done about the Jewish Harris Miller by the Webb campaign during the Democrat primary.

    It is NOT neocon talk, it's a fact.

    It's the reason why Webb cannot raise any money since the primary.

    Allen is a pig and stupid to boot, but that doesn't mean I am going to support a racist Democrat either.

    I am voting "Green" as I will be voting on principle not party.

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  27. schwartzie knows that he lost this war or words with hal. he can't post proof to his lies and his last resort is to personally attack hal.

    if the real truth were known you can bet that schwartzie and his half breed brood all live in a nigger infested low-rent housing project that is also roach infested and not a half million dollar home that only exists in his dreams.

    Our great hero said one time that schwartzie would give a million dollars if he could've been born a Nasty Smelly Buck Nigger with a Brillo pad for hair. He hates being White.

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  28. "if the real truth were known you can bet that schwartzie and his half breed brood all live in a nigger infested low-rent housing project that is also roach infested and not a half million dollar home that only exists in his dreams."

    Truth be told homes around here are pricey. I don't know what part of Maryland Schwartz resides in, but it's just not cheap to be a homeowner around here. Parts of Montgomery County that used to be fairly inexpensive have skyrockted in the last decade. We're talking 3 or 4 hundred thou for some fairly modest homes here. Nothing palatial by any stretch of the imagination.

    I don't know if Schwartz has actually bragged about his home, or if you're just making this up (I don't really visit his blog), but I just thought I'd set the record straight.

    Cheap, affordable housing is almost a thing of the past in this area. It's paradise for bankers, realtors, landlords and slumlords.

    Paradise now, Fool's Paradise soon enough.

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  29. Here is where schwartzie told about his deream home. It is on this page.


    Harry F Schwartz said...
    Hal,
    When you are able to buy a $500k 3,000 square foot house like I did in Maryland a few months ago, and grow about 8 inches in height, then you can compare yourself to me.

    As for me, If I was crying for attention from others, I would act just like you. But I don't.

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