I know that "Bonehead" and "Logic" do not go together - so before you say anything I just want you to know that I understand.They say one picture is worth a thousand words - how about a short slide show with a few pictures? Maybe 10,000 words? Taylor Bowles of the National Socialist Movement is running for President of the United States - or so he says. If you are torn about who you are going to vote for, or whether to vote at all - you really need to check out this presentation:
PRESENTATION
After you do that and you have regained your composure, would you please come back here and try to tell me why we should be worried about these clowns? When we say that the NSM et.al almost make Bill White and Hal Turner look sane - we really do mean it.
Has he picked a running mate yet as VP? Please OH PLEASE pick Hal Turner as running mate!!
ReplyDeleteThe lulz from that would echo across time and space.
He did have a VP picked out but William Hoff has assumed room temperature
ReplyDeleteBill Hoff would still be a better pick than Hal. Even dead Hoff is more useful than a live Turner.
ReplyDeleteYou'd think Bowles could pick a couple of more respectable-looking sidekicks than the knuckle-dragging clowns he's teamed up with as "security" and "youth corps leader."
ReplyDeleteChappell and Swift look like they come from the kind of homes where "mama" and "sister" are the same person.
And what's with the slouching, boys? Sit up straight - this is a Presidential campaign stop, not a trip to the principal's office for skipping fourth hour to smoke weed.
BTW - the article was well written, and the writer's use of that straight-faced, deadpan approach was pretty funny.
ReplyDeleteYou can't write better comedy than this, except for the fact that the NSM and its ilk are serious about genocide, concentration camps, and forced relocation of human beings.
Chris:
ReplyDelete1. Nazis have a proven track record of exterminating those they despise: 5-6 million Jews, and another 5 million Poles, Roma, gays, Sinti, communists, and assorted others during the Holocaust.
2. Although Bill White is no longer an NSM member, he offers an example of the racist mindset and its fascination with plans for genocide: I left the film [Apocalypto] saying to my wife that I never felt better about the mass killing of hundreds of millions of coloreds as I did seeing that film, and that it almost inspires me to get started on finishing the job. I also felt pretty good about slavery and human sacrifice as well.
3. Scan threads on VNN, Stormfront, or any other WN board and you will find hundreds of similar examples of imagined violence and murder against non-whites, gays, and everyone else not deemed an Aryan.
4. BTW - If NSM is such a peace-loving group, why does it insist on greeting visitors to NSM88.com with the image and sound of a loud explosion?
Chris:
ReplyDelete1. The Holocaust happened, dude. Deal with it. However, there are legitimate intellectual debates about the Holocaust, like the intentionalist versus functionalist debate, or Norman Finkelstein's provocative "Holocaust industry" arguments.
2. That being said, I agree with you that laws banning Holocaust denial are useless. They turn people like David Irving and Ernst Zundel into martyrs, as opposed to crappy historians or anti-Semitic nutcases.
3. No argument from me that some Israeli military personnel have committed atrocities against Palestinian civilians, or that the Palestinians got a lousy deal in 1947.
4. As far as your personal views, feel free to state them. Are you for the forced removal of non-whites from the United States? Do you agree with genocide as a means of "purifying" a given nation? Many WNs do, and chalking this up to a bunch of antis with fake names on VNN doesn't cut it, Chris. BTW - I don't post on those boards, although I surf them from time to time. The boards I post on - like you - I use my own name (well, except for some fiction I write. I have a pen name for fiction, but that has nothing to do with the real world).
5. I abhor and condemn violence and crime where it occurs, be it by white, black, yellow, or purple people.
6. Somtimes it takes greater courage to be a pacifist than a warmonger, Chris.
Chris said...
ReplyDelete"I swear, when your side of the story comes down to making outragous claims like that, its time to re-examine either their side or yours...
"...The jews say the things they do about National Socialism, traditionally, because they think there is no other way to get people to rail against them."
Kinda like what one of your fellows had to say about us a little while ago, huh Chris:
From Donald Brown...
"The Citizens Against Hate that Nichol Nichols represents is a group that shouldn't laugh at since they are considered domestic terrorists and frequently violate the law and others Constitutional rights."
The statements made by History Mike regarding genocide and violence - stand strong when considering the NSM and other hate groups. Regardless of what your beliefs are, you know that Mike is 100% correct. There are no euphemisms that can alter what these groups stand for.
Listen to any nazi rally and it's all about hate. Hatred of Jews. Hatred of Blacks. And enough crying and whining to last a lifetime.
ReplyDeleteYou'll never hear them talk about loving white people though.
Chris:
ReplyDelete1. Most of the world acknowledges the reality of the Holocaust, just like most of the world acknowledges the reality of the moon landing. There are, however, a few people who stubbornly cling to conspiracy theories claiming both were faked.
2. Holocaust denial laws, in my opinion, are more like emotional reactions to by people shocked at the assaults on history and memory. The problem with these laws is twofold: they suppress free speech and they end up turning a handful of fringe extremists into martyrs. It's better to let Ernst Zundel churn out his cheesy pamphlets than to stick him in jail.
3. Agreed that this is off topic, although some denial arguments link Israel to the conspiracy theory.
4. Glad to hear you state you are a reasonable WN. Start buying up land in Idaho, Montana, or wherever you want to create your nation.
5. Crime and poverty go hand-in-hand. Lousy economic situations bring out the worst in people of all colors. I grew up in Detroit (yes, that Detroit - my dad was a city cop for 25 years), and I know firsthand more than a few whites who chose the path of crime. I also know plenty of successful blacks who did not make that choice.
6. Don't confuse "pacifism" with "passivity," Chris. If an SOB came up to me or a family member with a weapon, I would have no problem kicking the s**t out of said thug. I know how to throw a punch, swing a Louisville Slugger, and pull a trigger. That being said, the Iraq war (like most of the recnt modern wars) has been a colossal waste of human lives and material resources. As someone with pacifist leanings, I object to our President leading us into what looks like the start of a wide Middle East war (or - perish the thought - World War III).