Monday, March 09, 2009

Women Protected By Hate Crime Laws? You Tell Me


I found this article by Denise Marie Santiago at the Democrat and Chronicle.Domestic violence, and violence against women, is a mahor problem in this contry and around the world, for certain. However, the issue here is "hate crime." Attacks on homeless people are at an all time high and some groups have been suggesting covering the homeless under hate crimes legislation, as well.

The question that I have here is how many groups of people should be protected by hate crime laws, and how effective is hate crime sentencing enhancement?

March 6, 2009


Violence against women is a form of hate crime


The recent stories about the beheading, the burning and the beating of women have me thinking that a group trying to make violence against women hate crimes is on to something.

Because, really, what else is there to explain that kind of torture but loathing and intimidation? Not much, in my mind.

There's the Buffalo man who is accused of repeatedly stabbing his wife with a hunting knife, before decapitating her just days after she filed for divorce.

According to The Buffalo News, Muzzammil Hassan — who moved to Rochester from Pakistan to attend college in the '80s and formerly worked for Kodak — had a history of abusing both his first and second wives before allegedly killing the third.

I was thinking about that case after reading this week that more than 100,000 young women in India die in fires each year and that domestic abuse is suspected in many of those deaths, according to a study published in a British medical journal and reported by the Associated Press. Young women were three times more likely than men their age to die in fires, according to the U.S.-based researchers who ran the study.

Then there's the high-profile case of celebrities Chris Brown and Rihanna, whose bruised and swollen face has made the rounds on the Internet and on TV.

Brown, just 19, was charged Thursday in Los Angeles with two felony counts of assault and criminal threats for allegedly beating up his 21-year-old girlfriend. Police said that Brown punched, bit and choked Rihanna until she lost consciousness, and he threatened to kill her when she pretended to summon police.

The clincher is that the two celebrities reportedly are back together, which has people questioning the example they're setting for today's young people.

Bad ones, if you ask me.

But Catherine Mazzotta, who heads the local Alternatives for Battered Women, cautioned against making judgments.

Domestic violence is about control, she said, and there are many reasons victims stay with abusers: religion, children, or excuses that seem to make sense.

"Looking from the outside, it may not look very complicated," she said, "but from the inside, it's very complicated."

The lesson from Brown and Rihanna's situation?

"You will be affected by this issue regardless of who you are," Mazzotta said. "The highest risk factor for being affected by domestic violence is that you're female."

That brings me round to the group that recently gathered in Albany on the hate crime issue.

"We believe that these vicious, violent crimes against women, including rape, murder and the recent beheading of the woman in Buffalo, are because they are women," a Suffolk County state legislator told the Democrat and Chronicle's Albany bureau.

Assemblywoman Patricia Eddington announced last week that she was sponsoring legislation that would require police to consider violent acts against women as possible hate crimes.

Gender is now mentioned as a factor to be considered in hate crimes law, but it's rarely used when women are victims, say women's groups.

We don't need to look around the world, around the country or even to Buffalo to see the effects of domestic violence. It was a factor in nearly a dozen local killings last year, says a local domestic violence consortium.

I'm for legislation that would give law enforcement more avenues to prosecute those cases and to protect women.

To contact Alternatives for Battered Women, call (585) 232-7353.

81 comments:

  1. """I found this article by Denise Marie Santiago at the Democrat and Chronicle.Domestic violence, and violence against women, is a major problem in this country and around the world, for certain."""

    I agree that violence against women is a problem in the United States. There are too many losers out there that get of on smacking their bitch up.

    Even the cops beat them from a very young frail age.
    Two or Three Solid Punches To The Head Will Shut The Little Bitch Up

    I have a soft spot in my heart for a little girl getting her ass kicked by a grown man. Pretty fucked up. In all actuality, when I see that it makes me want to choke that cop out and give him a taste of his own medicine. There is a certain point where you cross the line and cops are notorious for getting away with that kind of shit.

    That cop deserves a good ass kicking just like the nigger who beat the bus driver does. I wouldn't say the cop took it to that level but he definitely was way across the line. I probably wouldn't feel that way, even with the punches, if he was trying to subdue a guy his own size.

    Maybe the little bitch needed to be put back into place but it may have been a good idea to grab her without the asskicking and hog tie the little whore and leave her like that for a few hours.

    """However, the issue here is "hate crime." Attacks on homeless people are at an all time high and some groups have been suggesting covering the homeless under hate crimes legislation, as well."""

    This is absolutely nuts. Look at the crime statistics and see who is committing what crimes. The people vs the homeless or the homeless vs the people. The homeless are very dangerous people. 90% of them are living on the streets by choice! Not these poor little bums that got a tough break like they are made out to be.

    One of my rental properties is within walking distance of a homeless shelter and they are constantly getting arrested for breaking into homes, vandalism and robbery. Just a few months ago someone who lives across the street from my rental got shot in the head and lived. They saw a wad of cash in his hand when he was leaving the convenience store and the next thing he knew they kicked his door in.

    """The question that I have here is how many groups of people should be protected by hate crime laws"""

    No groups should be protected by hate crime laws. The crime against one person should be the same as if it was against another. We already have crimes in place for murder. Don't need hate crimes for murder. We already have crimes in place for assault. We don't need specific assault hate crime punishments.

    These radical groups seem to have an objective of calling every single crime against another person a hate crime unless it is a minority against a white male or unless it is a white male against a white male.

    You're a smart girl Nikki. It seems like you already know that this Hate Crime garbage has gotten out of hand. We now need to backtrack, take one step further and repeal all "hate crime" legislation and stick with the tough criminal charges we already have relating to one person victimizing another.

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  2. Everyones victim status is more important than everyone elses.

    The law should be applied equally. You hurt someone you should go to jail--period.

    You lie in wait to kill someone (murder) you should be put to death.

    This isn't rocket science.

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  3. Okay Hooch, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and risk the wrath of some of my friends.

    First of all...that is a very disturbing video you posted. I know it happens but I will never get used to watching it. My blood is boiling after that.

    I have some very definite personal opinions on hate crime legislation. You see, I think in order for someone to commit an act of violence against another, there has to be an element of hate present. That hate might even be toward oneself - but it's there.

    I also do not believe that such laws act as deterrents to crimes of violence. If the hatred that someone holds toward a particular group of people is so deep rooted as to cause them to murder or maim them, I don't care what kind of "enhancement" you legislate - nothing is going to deter them.

    Who believes that a group of young men out looking to bash in the skulls of some gay guy or some homeless man is going to stop and say "We better not do that or we'll be charged with a hate crime?"

    Additionally, it's very hard to prove a hate crime intent on a violent act. We cannot presume to know what was in the perpetrator's mind at the time of the act unless there are witnesses who can testify to the intent.

    Acts of vandalism are much easier to pinpoint and I have no problem with giving someone who scrawls venom against an entire group of people an additional sentence over someone who scribbles nonsense on a bridge or overpass. That's pretty much a no-brainer.

    However, singling out certain groups of people as "protected" is just an act in futility in my opinion.

    I know that isn't the popular view among many. But, sometimes we tend to get so caught up in the political correctness of the moment that we don't use common sense.

    As to violence against women - it's abominable. But, to ask for hate crime laws against that is pretty ridiculous. How about also considering protected status for males who suffer domestic abuse...Children who are abused...animals...politicians...etc.

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  4. Too funny. Blevins/Hooch who according to court records repeatedly beat his wife giving advice on domestic violence. Oh the Irony. 90% of the homeless are living on the streets by choice? Get a job Blevins, then maybe I could listen to your bullshit.

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  5. You make good points here and I would be surprised if someone had any strong arguments against it.

    """Who believes that a group of young men out looking to bash in the skulls of some gay guy or some homeless man is going to stop and say "We better not do that or we'll be charged with a hate crime?"""

    Or the opposite. Who would think a hate crime protecting innocent whites would stop a vagrant from robbing them for drug money.

    """I have no problem with giving someone who scrawls venom against an entire group of people an additional sentence over someone who scribbles nonsense on a bridge or overpass."""

    Ok, I can understand that too if it was graffiti and not a removable sign where people were exercising their right to free speech. People should always unconditionally have the right to free speech regardless who agrees or disagrees with it.

    """But, sometimes we tend to get so caught up in the political correctness of the moment that we don't use common sense."""

    I am fortunate as this never happens to me. There is not a single politically correct bone in my body.

    """As to violence against women - it's abominable. But, to ask for hate crime laws against that is pretty ridiculous."""

    Just tough crimes on those who victimize others in a physical manor. Tougher when is is a case of victimizing a person who could be considered defenseless like a large male vs a female or a male or female against a small child, or a large teen vs his mom. No need for specific "hate crimes". We already have punishments in place.

    LOL, that's funny! Hate crimes on politicians. In all actuality, if they don't start acting like civil servants than they very well may need to pass some anti-hate-politician laws. They have already started actions to protect themselves against the people in the present training of the National Guard to attack the people in the case of an uprising.

    Hopefully when the time comes, the men and women of the National Guard will realize who's side they should be on.

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  6. """90% of the homeless are living on the streets by choice?"""

    Watch the movie Skid Row and you will learn a little more about the vagrant situation in America. You are one of those fools that thinks that they are predominantly either mentally insane or just some poor people that are out of luck.

    All but the mentally insane are fully capable of working. Many are drug addicts or alcoholics. Most are drop outs of society and love nothing more than pulling one over on another person. They would rather live there on the streets, go to the food bank for breakfast, lunch and dinner and sleep rather than work.

    Money for drugs and alcohol comes from two places. What they steal and what they beg for in the name of working for food. BTW, try one time to give them work for food and see what happens.

    I told you about my rental property by the homeless shelter and food bank. Well, just about 200 yards from there is the highway.

    They stand on the exit ramp with will work for food signs. Most people don't know the food bank is a 5 minute walk from there and they serve all meals of sufficient portions. Since most do not know this they get plenty of money until the cops run them off. When they ask me for money, I tell them why don't you go right there and get food? They either ignore me, or say fuck you man, I need money.

    BTW, many of them have cell phones and those little ear blue tooth things.

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  7. Don't forget to watch that movie. It was written by liberals for liberals with a liberal standpoint and even they found the conclusion that they are on the street BY CHOICE!

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  8. Hooch, I agree with just about 99 percent of what you say, but I would have to disagree with you on the homeless question.

    Apparently, you haven't seen the NEW HOMELESS that make up the tent cities called Obamavilles lately, have you?

    These people are not bums and most are willing to work--I will also add that most of them are white (entire families living in cars...I have seen this for myself).

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  9. Ok, Sorry, I wasn't accounting for those who Obama is hurting. That evil bastard will never himself spend a day in his car.

    I was thinking of the "standard" bum who would be a bum in times of no virtually no unemployment except for those who wish to remain unemployed.

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  10. As a radical homosexual I think that all of these racist bastards should be rounded up and summarily ass fucked by my crew of faggots.

    These goyim need to submit to their jewish cock masters!

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  11. Hooch is not that idiot Blevins but the idiot NewsGuy. He is much like Blevins, except that he is incredibly fat, his name is Pete Goodman, he lives in his mommies basement. He produces the The Right Perspective. Since he doesn't have a job he spends his free time spamming Nimbusters under about 100 AKA's, and listening to right winged radio, he is completely brain washed, unable to mouth anything but the right winged party line. He's been thrown off VNN and Hal's old board. He is a liar and of course as he's already proven a complete idiot.

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  12. Another problem for women in battered situations is being able to get the finances to leave her abuser.

    This capitalist system is not set up for women who are trapped, those who took time to not be in the work place because of trying to raise kids.

    They are forced to live with their abuser because it's either bruises or be homeless with children.

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  13. yes, well jew Stanley Lawson is the main jew behind the fraud that is the joke that is called N.I.M.Busters. He's a jew york queens kike. Just so the rest of you now know.

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  14. Nice try but wrong again. Lawson is neither Jewish or in all actually my real name. I've also never lived in New York or even been there. How stupid are you?

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  15. For those of you who might not have heard: Matthew Ramsey of Gladstone Oregon was severely beaten around the head and face yesterday. A unidentified Anti beat him badly outside his HUD apartment building in Gladstone. 19535 River Rd. #8
    Gladstone Oregon (in case any other Antis want to pay him a visit).

    During the beating Ramsey admits he is Jewish and that he has had several affairs with black men. Video tape of the beating will soon be posted on YouTube. More as the story develops.

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  16. makes sense that MS fck-'tard NUTZ "back-peddles" on "domestic violence" because, over-whelmingly, the perps are mudz!....most white men so accused are usually done so on the basis of un-corroborated hear-say in order to facilitate divorce proceedings/asset-grabbing/cutody decisions by feminist cunt kike-a-likes!

    (if "domestic violence" fails, then, the afore-said feminist cunts usually make a bogus "child abuse" allegation!)

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  17. Quit whining, Blevins you fake bitch.

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  18. Stanley Lawson actually lives in the U.K.

    Nuff said.

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  19. """Another problem for women in battered situations is being able to get the finances to leave her abuser.
    This capitalist system is not set up for women who are trapped...
    They are forced to live with their abuser because it's either bruises or be homeless with children."""

    Look, I am as much against women getting their asses kicked by their husbands as the next guy but this is where I have to draw the line. Is there some reason that you ridicals keep making stuff up or is it that you just don't know too much about the world?

    Do you even live in the United States or is this why you are so completely out of touch.

    This information that you are giving people is completely bogus. Every single place I have ever lived has had womens shelters and they don't have to have a dime to leave their husband. To take their kids and go. They will provide all living expenses until they have a job and have saved up enough to get back out on their own.

    That is not the reason why women don't leave their abusers. The reason is more related to them being made to feel like a worthless piece of shit and that they are lucky the looser will even have them. The reason for others is they are little drama queens and love to talk about all of the bad things that happen to them or that Billy just got locked up, etc. It's sort of a redneck mentality. Intense drama = an interesting fun life.

    """March 10, 2009 7:02 AM
    Anonymous Anti From Hell said...For those of you who might not have heard: Matthew Ramsey of Gladstone Oregon was severely beaten around the head and face yesterday. A unidentified Anti beat him badly outside his HUD apartment building in Gladstone. 19535 River Rd. #8
    Gladstone Oregon (in case any other Antis want to pay him a visit)."""

    Look at this looser calling a hit on someone. Why don't one of you anti-fagots come by Roanoke VA and give a shot at me?

    Now for a more serious subject. I am very worried about the Messiah. Some drastic changes have happened and there could either be one of two answers to this.

    Obama has gone heavily gray in just 3 short months.
    Shocking Changes in the Messiah!

    The first possibility is the worst. At the rate he is aging, he will die in months. It's like a fast forward through 10 to 20 years in just 3 months.

    The second, but more likely possibility is that Obama is engaged in more trickery and deceptive behavior in the weak attempt to act like he has become old and wise as if he knows what he is doing.

    Now, can one of you radical homosexuals tell me if it is true that Obama is dieing quickly or if it is that he is untactfully using trickery upon the people?

    Surely it is not deceptive behavior because Obama is a nice guy and doesn't play those types of games.

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  20. Nikki,

    What is your take on Bill White mailing some letters to Glenn Miller? The thread is on VNN and White claims Hal Turner sent him several racist filled letters that the prison rejected.

    We all know both Glenn Miller and Hal Turner are federal informants and it's really weird Miller decides to make these letters public RIGHT BEFORE Bill's trial.

    This is weird because they can use those letters to Glenn Miller in sentencing guidelines if White is found guilty. I think Hal did send those letters to White in order to make it harder for White at trial and it backfired on him.

    And what's odd, both Hal Turner and Glenn Miller are federal informants. But so was Bill White.

    As the stomach turns.....

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  21. Go here and you will see my disputes with Hal about this.

    https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=30078967&postID=5707105921398316141

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  22. Well Hooch we finally agree on something. Hal's a fed, a narc, and totally insane.

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  23. I don't think Bill is a narc though. I personally know him as we live in the same town and I never got that impression.

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  24. Lawson isn't jewish Nim-kike? How about this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Lawson

    We know your game Stan. The gig is up.

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  25. Hooch,

    I grew up one county over from where Bill was raised. I'm about 14 years older than Bill though so it doesn't mean much. My wife knew "about him" when she went to College Park but didn't know Willie personally.

    Bill's a lot of things, a narc isn't one of them although Bill has admitted to experimenting with drugs when he was younger and encouraged others to use drugs when he was Bill White version 1.0

    Hal Turner is an obvious narc along with a few other things...

    The best thing for BW to do when he gets out of prison is to take care of his family and shut up. I suspect that will be impossible for BW but we'll see.

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    Now about Nikki's topic about hate crimes against women.

    No, I don't support it. The problem with violent crimes against women isn't the legal punishment but is getting the women to testify in court in the first place. So many women get battered but 24 hours later, they are back with the same man and refuse to press charges. So the DA drops them. Sometimes out of fear, sometimes just out of "love". It frustrates the hell out of law enforcement.

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  26. It could be your information is better than mine. I have no real direct links but I do not think that Bill will serve any prison time. Not unless he does something stupid, tries to fight his case and doesn't win. I'm basing this on my familiarity with the justice system though and nothing else.

    Domestic violence is a complicated issue and as you said a great headache for law enforcement. Had Nicole Simpson prosecuted OJ early on then perhaps she'd be alive today.

    I had a lot of problems with the King County Video. That officer should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Teens will act out and be mouthy. I can't see anything she did to deserve a beating like that. That officer should get a good lesson on what it is like to be behind bars. He is a disgrace to law enforcement.

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  27. """Mr. Schwartz said...
    The best thing for BW to do when he gets out of prison is to take care of his family and shut up. I suspect that will be impossible for BW but we'll see."""

    I think he will at least be very careful what he says. There is a big difference between Bill and someone who is giving death threats in a government entrapment manor to draw out the crazies and leak information. He just can't get away with saying what Hal does.

    This whole thing has been real hard on his wife and child and Bill did not intentionally put this burden on his family. I still talk to his wife once a month or so and things are tough for her trying to manage their rental property and having to get a second job while caring for their little one.

    Remember, they also have about half of their properties in bankruptcy that Bill was managing and this burden has fallen on her shoulders.

    They have another property to be sold at a foreclosure auction the 17th of this month.

    Bill never intended on putting this kind of stress on his wife and child. I am pretty confident that he will tone down any talk about someone should hurt another quite a bit when he gets out.

    I feel sorry for him. He's actually a real nice guy and fights hard against dirty politicians acting against the will of the people or for white people who have been treated unfairly. This is a political prisoner scenario and he was incarcerated to break the path for Obama.

    Lesson to be learned, never speak loudly against the government or you will be dealt with severely. This is not a free country as you may have thought it was.


    """Raoul Xemblinosky said...
    I had a lot of problems with the King County Video. That officer should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law."""

    It's too bad that he won't. The government wins, the people loose.

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  28. Stock Market Up 379 Points Yesterday, Consumer Confidence returns! Self told unbelievers. Plenty more work to do but: OBAMA IS DOING IT! OBAMA IS DOING IT! YES WE CAN! YES! YES! YES! BECAUSE LIBERALS ARE SMARTER (THREW THAT ONE IN TO MAKE HOOCHIE'S ASSHOLE ITCH)


    Stock Market Surges with a Roar!
    The Reason Why!
    Self (and bestest Friend) Celebrate with a victory dance!

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  29. Consumer confidence will be the key in recovering the economy. I learned that in Economics 101 (or was it 201) in college.

    Just a one day thing, not worth getting excited over.

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  30. It seems the chans and maybe the Nimbusters are sending contraband (including drugs and a file) to Bill White in Jail. It is being send under the names: Mike Blevins, Chris Drake and Hal Turner. Dang, I hope none of those guys get locked up and raped while the government is sorting things out. Oh my, that would be terrible. Mucho Lutz.

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  31. """Stock Market Up 379 Points Yesterday, Consumer Confidence returns! Self told unbelievers. Plenty more work to do but: OBAMA IS DOING IT! OBAMA IS DOING IT! YES WE CAN! YES! YES! YES! BECAUSE LIBERALS ARE SMARTER (THREW THAT ONE IN TO MAKE HOOCHIE'S ASSHOLE ITCH)"""

    Obama has nothing to do with it shitpants. It is due to Citibanks financial report they disclosed. You need to pay more attention to what is going on.

    Even Obama's buddy billionaire Buffet sold him out yesterday saying that his bleak message to the public does not help consumer confidence and that he must "change" his ways from making these unwise decisions.

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  32. When is Bill White's trial supposed to take place? I thought it was March 3rd but either it didn't happen or no media whatsoever covered it.

    Remember that Billy is also facing 7 other felonies when they are done with him in Chicago. What nailed Billy is he was stupid enough to phone and physically mail threats to people. It just wasn't this website.

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  33. I emailed Meghan, his wife, and asked her when the new court date was but she didn't remember to answer that question because I had a bunch of other questions relating to property I am trying to buy from them.

    I do remember that the other charges are felonies but that doesn't mean too much. People are often charged with things that get dropped. Remember that each of these charges are on the fine line of breaking the peoples constitutional rights.

    Most often felonies get dropped all together or to misdemeanors if your lawyer is worth a shit. Also, a felony doesn't mean you go to prison. He has already spent 50K prior to any court hearing so I would say his lawyers are pretty good.

    You need good lawyers when you are a political prisoner and up against those supporting the Obama administration.

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  34. First on the issue of Bill White and these letters from Turner. Hal Turner HAS sent letters to Bill White.

    It's soooooo interesting that Bill is corresponding with Glenn Miller. Some of you may remember that Glenn insinuated himself into the Matt Hale family and Matt's incarceration while awaiting trial. Accordingly, Miller wrote many things about Hale's incarceration that only "insiders" with law-enforcement would know about. He was very involved, as well, with Russell Hale - Matt's father. His were some of the few letters who made it through to Matt.

    Believe me...it is in the best interest of the government that communication between these people be allowed. Additionally...if anyone associated with Bill White believes they are safe - think again. There are some very interesting things taking place in that Chicago facility right now.

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  35. I would definitely feel that I am safe. I break no laws, don't give death threats let alone ever wish harm to someone who disagrees with me.

    People have different opinions and that's what makes life fun.

    Even if Bill is "talking" with someone who is likely an informant, there is nothing to say about me. However, there are a couple within ANSWP that could be considered dangerous primarily due to the psychosis that is characterized by a number of people within the movement. Most of the people within ANSWP are nice guys and wouldn't hurt a fly.

    Hals group of followers is a completely different story.

    The Vinlanders step it up to the highest notch and I steer clear of them. You would likely end up dead for just talking shit about those guys. They follow through with their threats.

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  36. Hooch says: "Bill White is a political prisoner."

    Bill White is a disgrace. He was running a ponzi scheme on the tax payers with his revolving loans and credit cards. Maybe not as evil as Madoff but certainly contemptible. I would like to see him tried for fraud. Still, jury tampering and attempting to influence the justice system through violence and intimidation is bad enough. The one thing that will probably save him is that he is mentally unstable and a blow hard, all mouth and no go, so to speak, Bill White is getting his just due. Make no mistake about it, Bill White is no political prisoner.He is a contemptible little man. He makes me believe in Karma.

    I also do not believe most of what you say. It contradicts what I know. One that his wife had filed for divorce (though I do not believe she followed through) ever since Bill White started calling and emailing threats we followed him closely. The Vinlanders are mostly just a drug dealing street gang these days. Two thirds of their founding members are in prison.

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  37. I still predict a plea bargain where White pleas to one felony, probably gets time served or a year. As part of the plea bargain, the condition will be he will no longer be a part of any neo-nazi group. The felony charge will prevent him from owning a firearm and various other things.

    I bet also White is (has) spilling his guts out about everything he knows. The problem is, White believes his own lies so they will have a hard time figuring out what is the truth and what isn't. Since White goes public on almost everything, I doubt if him spelling his guts really means much.

    No idea why the media ignored his new court date unless they don't consider it a story anymore.

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  38. As David Bowie would say: The Bitch is Back. You can use that title if you wish Nikki:

    RETURN OF "THE HAL TURNER SHOW"

    North Bergen, NJ -- After about eight months off the air, I am pleased to announce the return of "The Hal Turner Show" and the Turner Radio Network.

    My show will return on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 at 9:00 PM eastern US time. Its focus will be slightly different, this time dealing mostly with issues economic and political, but you the listener will enjoy the ability to speak about other issues that, as always, are important to you!

    Between now and March 23, I will have a server collocated back into a data center and have my original web site, HalTurnerShow.com reactivated. When the site is brought back, in addition to the regular news and opinion content it provided in the past, it will also provide a fully functional Message forum similar to VNN Forum and Stormfront, but without the heavy handed moderation or outright betrayal of users.

    Also returning will be the following shows:


    "End Day Prophecy Hour" Pastor James P. Wickstrom

    "Think Tank" with Paul Gellar

    "Survival School for the Common Man" with Ron from Connecticut

    as well as several other shows with hosts Gordon Young, Jay Faber and more!

    I am reaching out to other former broadcasters and hope many of them will choose to return also.

    Like a Phoenix, rising from the ashes, this rebirth of my show and the network was only possible because four (4) people contributed enough money over the past two months, to pay the costs for a single, full month of shows.

    Whether this endeavor is able to continue beyond a full month is solely up to you, the listener. We need 200 people to commit to donating $5 each per month.

    I know the economy sucks. I know times are tough. But right now, there isn't even a single voice anywhere in the "main stream" media that forecast the present economic troubles as accurately as we did, or as early as we did.

    Right now, there isn't even a single voice in the main stream media daring to speak about the far worse things that are coming down the road here in America

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  39. Schwartz and Nikki,

    The governement CAN NOT AFFORD for BW to walk away with a light sentence(regardless if the charges are legit or not at this point). This would essentially be creating a really big monster.

    If he gets off with time served or just a few years his WN street rep will be so damn high they really will have a problem on their hands.

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  40. Conspirare all you want concerning Bill's sentence about what the government "can't afford" but simply put the justice system doesn't work that way. If Bill can be proven guilty then he will be sentenced under the sentencing guidelines, which given that he is for the most part a first time offender (the only previous convicts are a assault case and a conviction for domestic violence, neither felonies). He will get a light sentence provided he doesn't do anything stupid.

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  41. David Bowie didn't say the bitch is back, dumbass it was Elton John. Hooch TRP dumbass is soooo full of shit.

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  42. I wonder what Bill White will have to say about all the former friends who sold him out? Things are going to get interesting if he goes free.

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  44. When he does get out he will be broke and alone. Drake is porking his old lady. Burks went crazy when he met a mud, the ANSWP is basically no more. In or out Bill is a non entity but it has always been that way.

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  45. I just sit back and pray every day that Obama can get us out of the mess that the GOP has put us in. This is the second time the Republicans have done this to this great country (see the Great Depression). Now they turn their de facto leadership over to a drug addled hypocrite? If I live to be a hundred I'll never vote for one of those bastards ever again.

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  46. """Blogger Sholem Asch said...
    Bill White is a disgrace. He was running a ponzi scheme on the tax payers with his revolving loans and credit cards."""

    This is complete bullshit. Go ahead and post this evidence you have. You know you are lying.

    """Still, jury tampering and attempting to influence the justice system through violence and intimidation is bad enough."""

    You can not influence the decisions of a trial when your statements are made after it is over fool.

    ""Make no mistake about it, Bill White is no political prisoner."""

    Bill had bougus charges brought upon him for 2 reasons. One, the magazine he was going to release just prior to the election. "the Obama assassination myth one". The other reason is Massachusetts got caught with 7 people on their domestic terrorist list that they were supposedly watching that an independent review showed to be peaceful protesters. One of which was Bill. It was getting ready to be exposed where they spent all of this money watching Bill in Mass when he doesn't even live there and hasn't for 13 years. The politicians pocketed it.

    """I also do not believe most of what you say. It contradicts what I know."""

    That's because you dont know shit.

    """One that his wife had filed for divorce (though I do not believe she followed through) ever since Bill White started calling and emailing threats we followed him closely."""

    You suck at watching because they are happily married.

    """Blogger Mr. Schwartz said...
    The felony charge will prevent him from owning a firearm and various other things."""

    He will miss his gun, he just got his concealed weapons permit.
    BTW, something they don't allow people with extensive criminal records in VA to have.

    This is where you run criminal backgrounds on people in VA for free to verify what I have said.
    http://www.courts.state.va.us/caseinfo/home.html

    """I bet also White is (has) spilling his guts out about everything he knows. """

    Probably. You would. Anything that they would want to know would be related to a crime. Not he said she said shit but a bad crime where there are victims. Who gives a shit if a murderer or other psycho goes to jail? I say good!

    """The governement CAN NOT AFFORD for BW to walk away with a light sentence(regardless if the charges are legit or not at this point). This would essentially be creating a really big monster."""

    Bill will not be coming out and causing any type of problems. Trust me, I know. He is very well aware of the financial damage this is costing him and his family. He also does not like being away from his daughter.

    """When he does get out he will be broke and alone. Drake is porking his old lady."""

    He has over 20 properties. He won't be completely broke but I would bet that most of the equity will be pulled out. Drake is not fucking Meghan. That is a lie and you know it.

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  47. It wasn't a ponzi scheme but BW running up credit card debt at 27 percent interest (by his own admission) is about a stupid a business decision as a human being can make. BW has defaulted on all of them according to the bankruptcy filing.

    Hooch, we both know BW has no equity in his properties. It would make a great steal for you to pick them up in a auction. It's also interesting Hooch that Meghan is no longer the agent selling off BW's properties. It's also a fact that the asking value of those properties have dropped like a stone. You can google it if you want.

    BW isn't going to be poor because of his multi-millionaire parents. But he's a horrible business man and has flopped at every business he ever has ran. Do you don't remember his internet consulting service that he ran with a Jew out of East Baltimore do you? That flopped.

    Like I said, after BW is done with the prison, the best thing is for him to shut the f..k up and take care of his child and wife.

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  48. Jason,

    The problem with Obama right now is Nancy Pelosi is really running things. Obama won't stand up to her.

    I said this before the election, both Bush and Pelosi need to go.

    I'm disappointed with the Democrats right now, very disappointed.

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  49. Bill has 2 counts of domestic abuse filed on him by Meg White. This doesn't sound like a very happy marriage to me. Bill White has a previous count of assault on a woman, Erica Harding (think her name was) I seriously doubt he was ever granted a concealed weapon permit. Does anyone but me realize this "Hooch" is nothing but a bullshit artist?

    Meg is not a great catch in any case. Before she was married to BillyJew she made porno movies and had a nigger pimp. Can you really blame Bill for beating her? Bill White's non-white breeding shows through in his actions.

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  50. The Democrats and the nigger are not going to change anything Schwartz. You didn't actually believe his bullshit did you? You make me laugh.

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  51. I expected Obama to be better than what he is. McCain would have been worse than Obama. McCain was just senile and a Bush clone.

    Now had Romney been the nominee instead of Obama, it would have made a tough choice for me.

    I hope this all works out in the long run. We'll see.

    There's no evidence Meghan filed any charges against BW and you know, I would be the first to make sure it was widely known. If you got a case # or something from VA courts, I like to know.

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  52. One thing is for sure is that we have heard the last from the ANSWP. IMHO the former members are probably all scared shitless.


    You ain't heard a peep from any of them.

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  53. """Mr. Schwartz said...It wasn't a ponzi scheme but BW running up credit card debt at 27 percent interest (by his own admission) is about a stupid a business decision as a human being can make...."""

    Agreed, stupid business decision. He was using the money for rehabbing houses. All who are successful in life have made bad mistakes too. We all end up reinventing the wheel to some degree and end up paying for it in the end. This is why 1/2 of his properties had to go into bankruptcy. The smart thing on his part is he had that half in a corporation called White Homes And Land. Not in his name. So he is bankrupting a company and not himself. The rest of the houses this way are untouchable.

    """Hooch, we both know BW has no equity in his properties. It would make a great steal for you to pick them up in a auction."""

    No equity means no deal. This is why we have not been able to work something out on a couple of them that I have looked at. He does have equity in others but wants too much than what I buy for. I always buy at a 20% cap rate. Never less.

    It is not a deal at a foreclosure auction either. Auctions on the steps of the courthouse are not where the deals are. The bank ends up owning the property again due to typical liens and judgments on the property. Most often their starting price is also the entire loan amount. The house goes into foreclosure because of predatory lending and they owe more on it than an investor would ever want. Deals can only come after the bank owns it, pays off the liens and prior to a real estate agent putting it on MLS.

    """It's also interesting Hooch that Meghan is no longer the agent selling off BW's properties."""

    I didn't think she ever was. I know they are broke right now due to the legal fees. I wouldn't think that they have the money to market the property properly.

    """It's also a fact that the asking value of those properties have dropped like a stone. You can google it if you want."""

    I don't need to Google it. I know the Roanoke real estate market like the back of my hand. She asked way too much for the houses right off the bat. I presently have an offer in on a house on Chapman, where they have many. It is a triplex and my offer is full asking price, 26K. It will require about 10K to fix it up and rent it.

    Presently a duplex around there is worth 30-40K. A triplex 40-60k. Her initial asking price on many was in the upper 90's.

    """But he's a horrible business man and has flopped at every business he ever has ran."""

    He is learning. All who are successful have taken huge risks and failed on some and succeeded on others. If you considered yourself successful than I would think that you would know exactly what I am talking about. I have stumbled many times but I keep getting back up and pushing forward. Two steps forward and one kick back. I wouldn't be where I am today if I didn't take risks.

    """Do you don't remember his internet consulting service that he ran with a Jew out of East Baltimore do you? That flopped."""

    I heard vaguely about it.

    """Like I said, after BW is done with the prison, the best thing is for him to shut the f..k up and take care of his child and wife."""

    I agree with that. I have already offered some constructive yet challenging opportunities for us to take advantage of locally that will financially benefit all who are involved in real estate in Roanoke.

    No need to give up the fight, just redirect it in a positive manor!

    """The problem with Obama right now is Nancy Pelosi is really running things. Obama won't stand up to her."""

    I thought the Dems loved that drama queen.

    """I'm disappointed with the Democrats right now, very disappointed."""

    I don't think you are alone in thinking this within your party. Look at their approval rating in congress. I think we are all fed up with all of these losers, republican and democrat.

    """Bill has 2 counts of domestic abuse filed on him by Meg White. This doesn't sound like a very happy marriage to me. Bill White has a previous count of assault on a woman, Erica Harding (think her name was)"""

    Go ahead and show me these charges. I gave you the information to do a free criminal background check. Here it is again. When you are done than come back here and admit that you have an issue with lying.
    http://www.courts.state.va.us/caseinfo/home.html

    """I seriously doubt he was ever granted a concealed weapon permit."""

    You can doubt it as much as you want but I saw it and it looks just like mine. I also gave him suggestions on nice conceal pistols. Springfield Armory XD-9 Subcompact is my favorite.

    """Does anyone but me realize this "Hooch" is nothing but a bullshit artist?"""

    That would be you homo. I just proved you wrong and anyone here can verify it by doing a background check on him. Type in William White, Go to the circuit course case information. He has an assault in 2004 and a speeding arrest for 74 or 75 in a 55mph.

    """Now had Romney been the nominee instead of Obama, it would have made a tough choice for me."""

    Romney is a good Conservative. McCain is a liberal posing as a republican and didn't get my vote due to this. I was forced to vote for Bob Barr.

    """There's no evidence Meghan filed any charges against BW and you know, I would be the first to make sure it was widely known. If you got a case # or something from VA courts, I like to know."""

    He doesn't have a case number. He is a liar and I just undeniably exposed him as being so.

    """One thing is for sure is that we have heard the last from the ANSWP. IMHO the former members are probably all scared shitless."""

    Wrong, They are all here:
    http://whitereference.blogspot.com/

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  54. White much like Blevins is a joke. Everyone knew it but Bill White. What "A Real White Man" said was basically correct he just got the details wrong. The lady that Bill assaulted was Erica Hardwich and her friend George Pierce who had cancer. Bill assaulted the two when he caught them handing out a leaflet entitled "Meet Your Local Racist" to Bill's predominantly black tenants. Bill was convicted of misdemeanor assault. Now according to Virginia Law he can not legally be given a handgun permit if:
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    An individual who has been convicted of any assault, assault and battery, sexual battery, discharging of a firearm in violation of § 18.2-280 or § 18.2-286.1 or brandishing of a firearm in violation of § 18.2-282 within the three-year period immediately preceding the application.
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    I am not sure what year Bill was convicted of assaulting Erica, maybe it was more than three years.
    But I do know that there are two other conditions that would prevent him from being granted this permit: He was involuntarily committed to a mental institution and he was convicted of stalking a woman named Alicia Hernandez in the state of Texas. Bill met Alicia in a strip club in Roanoke and stalked her to the point that she moved to Frisco Texas, where Bill continued to stalk her. Any Stalking conviction makes it illegal to have a hand gun permit in Virginia. If Bill was given a permit he obtained it illegally and with false information. I wonder if anyone has informed the Virginia police of this matter. Anyone know if the Roanoke police have a tip line?

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  55. Hooch is proven to be full of shit once again. Imagine that.

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  56. Boa, you should indeed turn Bill in for obtaining a gun permit using false info. I paid SecurityLink 20 bucks to run a criminal back ground check. Bill case number for his stalking case was 004-83765-04 I included it in the information I have the Roanoke police on their tip line. You should do it as well, the more the merrier. The number is:
    540-344-8500 (Crime Line). Roanoke County Sheriff (540) 387-6203. Both the Sheriff and the Roanoke police hate Bill and the penalty for providing false information on a concealed weapons application is up to five years imprisonment. Make him pay, he has it coming I know I will do my best. Thank you Hooch for all your help as well.

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  57. God, you people are psycho. He must have deeply hurt you to a point where you are permanently damaged.

    It sucks that you paid for that bogus garbage. That isn't even a case number used in VA . Possibly if it was over 13 years old it could have been one for Massachusetts when he was a child. I would bet that they pulled up another William White. There are many. There is even a black one here in Roanoke that is in the NAACP.

    No need to pay. Here is were those that know what they are doing do for criminal and civil searches.

    http://www.courts.state.va.us/caseinfo/home.html

    Your little narc call didn't do much as they will not even be able to look up that case number on this system I just gave you since it doesn't exist.

    I will now teach you how to use it because It seems as if you can not figure it out. I do searches on new hires for my companies on a daily basis.

    Two things. Look at Circuit Course Case Information link and use Roanoke City as the court and William White as the name. His middle initial is A.

    The other link that can pull up different but sometimes the same charges is General District Court Case Information. Here you can also see if he was found guilty or innocent.

    I have had to learn to use this system very well as all of my employees have to be bonded and bonding insurance requires background checks to be done.

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  58. It is a case number in Texas stupid. Bill Stalked Alicia all the way to Frisco Texas. READ FOR COMPREHENION, DUMBASS. It does not matter that the case did not happen in Va. or that it is not a felony. Bill was convicted as a stalker and under Va. law he may not own a hand gun. The guilty must pay for their crimes. Live with it, tard.

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  59. It's true, BTW. Bill met Alicia Hernandez in 2003 (I think) he spent a lot of money on her. He paid for her tit job and she dumped him. Afterwards he stalked her, she applied for a VPO in Roanoke and was turned down. She moved to Texas. Bill turned up in Texas. Alicia's boy friend warned him once then beat the dog shit out of Bill. Bill persisted, guess he was in love. Alicia filed charges on Bill (he was convicted) and got a VPO on him. You really don't know a whole lot about William White, do you Hooch?

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  60. """Anonymous said...It does not matter that the case did not happen in Va. or that it is not a felony. Bill was convicted as a stalker and under Va. law he may not own a hand gun. The guilty must pay for their crimes. Live with it, tard."""

    People who are convicted of stalking CAN own a handgun, they just can't get a concealed weapons permit. Open carry is legal in VA.

    Show me this supposed law. If you don't than we all know you are a liar yet again.

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  61. """she applied for a VPO in Roanoke and was turned down."""

    They don't turn someone down very easily. They protect their asses when someone claims that they need a protective order because they don't want it to come back on them that they didn't give it and the person killed the applicant.

    This says a lot about this girl.

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  62. Self laughs hard. Big man Hoochie back pedaling again. Hopefully, Hoochie's lover White is receiving lots of down home lovin' from other prisoners. Bill White is beneath selves contempt.

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  63. White's properties were torn to shit when Ramm and I exposed him to his tenants. I will also happily join the effort into calling in Billy Bumps for obtaining his concealed weapon permit under illegal circumstances. Once he is locked up in prison I am going to write his fellow African American Cell mates and tell them what kind of sack of doggie poo that they are locked up with. Can you whooosh when you fart? Bill will! LOL Crime and Punishment. Got to love it.

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  64. Hooch,

    BW was also convicted of assault against a police office in Maryland. And that you can look up. He also skipped bail that his mother posted in that case. He ended up getting re-arrested.

    He plead guilty to that. It was about ten years ago. He did about six months in jail on that one.

    Google "maryland court records", then search for William A White of Montgomery county. You'll see the entire court transcript.

    After he was released did he become Bill White the nazi, instead of Bill White the anarchist.

    BW tried pleading all the way to the Virginia Supreme Court to get a restraining order from Erica Hardwick dropped. I kid you not.

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  65. There is no way in hell that Bill was given a concealed handgun permit. No with multiple stalkings and his criminal history. Hooch is full of shit....as usual.

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  66. Well it seems that Bill White made a lot of enemies. This really shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.

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  67. """Ken Kraus said...White's properties were torn to shit when Ramm and I exposed him to his tenants. """

    Another lie. Most of his tenants are poor white trash just like you and there are very few people in this city that don't already know who he is.

    """Mr. Schwartz said...Hooch,BW was also convicted of assault against a police office in Maryland. And that you can look up. He also skipped bail that his mother posted in that case. He ended up getting re-arrested."""

    So what? I am not understanding what your problem with someone is who did some stupid things as a kid. People change. Why don't you hate Obama for his drug use which played a big part in his young life? People change Schwartz.

    It is about time you lib extremists drop your hate. You people are consumed with your hate 24/7. Why don't you focus your efforts in a positive manor rather than constantly spewing your mental sickness upon others. Bill is locked up and it is now time for you to drop your infatuation of him and start fixing yourself.

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  68. Poor Hooch exposed as a liar (again), trying to back pedal. You are a liar boy. No one with the kind of criminal history that White has would ever be granted a concealed weapons permit. But if he was, he was granted it illegally. I have joined the others in calling it in. Bill White is a sorry human being. Besides I love messing with racists because no matter what you do to them you never feel bad about it.

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  69. """Bill was convicted as a stalker and under Va. law he may not own a hand gun."""

    I said post your proof. Now do it liar!

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  70. Bill was convicted as a stalker and he may not legally have a concealed weapon permit.

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  71. Bill has not been convicted of any felonies (to my knowledge) and may own a hand gun under Virginia law. The felony thing is going to change, I doubt Bill will get out of his current crisis without a felony. Damn Hooch, how many times do I have to correct you?

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  72. I am not the anonymous posters dumbass and you haven't corrected anything except statements from your liberal friends.

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  73. If nothing else I love logging on here to see that idiot Hooch get his ass handed to him on a continued basis. Keep it up, you got him crying about "liberals" again. Too funny!

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  74. Ohh, the cry whine person is back. You have done very well with your typical ignorant posts.

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  75. Poor Hooch jumping in hoops, again. It's de Liberal Hooch. De Liberals.
    Snicker, snicker, Laugh.

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  76. Correct, no felonies on BW's record. A few assault convictions but not felony convictions.

    That's why they will want White to plead to ONE FELONY, and White will end up pleading to just that.

    And the condition of the plea bargain will be no nazi activities for xx number of years.

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  77. It's amazing to me that the government has come to the conclusion that they can take peoples freedom away like for example the restriction of being involved with something that is perfectly legal.

    I agree that this is likely what they will do.

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  78. Good call, Harry. That's precisely what I look for.

    Hooch - with rights comes responsibility. When you act irresponsibly and abuse those rights and freedoms, there are consequences. When your rights abrogate the rights of another you have crossed the line.

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  79. """Hooch - with rights comes responsibility. When you act irresponsibly and abuse those rights and freedoms, there are consequences."""

    What rights are you talking about specifically? Can you tell me exactly what "right" he abused? I can't think of one off hand.

    What I can think of is that he had some antisocial problems and probably treated her like shit.

    Only a psychopath would think that someone should be murdered and the murderer should get away with it.

    I would question the sanity of someone that wished a murderer to be set free. I am also wondering if they themselves would be a danger to society.

    """When your rights abrogate the rights of another you have crossed the line."""

    Her rights to what, not get yelled at by her husband? I don't fully recall the story, what was it that he did to her that required immediate death. What was it again that gave her the "right" to play God and kill him?

    If you were to say that he was fucking their child since birth than I must say, I would agree with you whole heartedly.

    But wasn't he yelling at her and acting like a piece of shit? Couldn't she leave? She is an adult isnt' she?

    Don't give me that crap like there isn't a womens shelter in her town or I will prove you wrong which will be very easy to do.

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  80. Sorry, I was still thinking about that girl that murdered her anti social husband and thought you were referring to her. It's pretty obvious that I haven't woken up yet.

    """Hooch - with rights comes responsibility. When you act irresponsibly and abuse those rights and freedoms, there are consequences."""

    The government doesn't have any special "rights" to control people or hold someone as a political prisoner.

    """When your rights abrogate the rights of another you have crossed the line."""

    I still want to know what "rights" you are talking about. You should be more specific. I clearly see the rights that are being taken away from Bill.

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  81. "That's why they will want White to plead to ONE FELONY, and White will end up pleading to just that. "

    Regardless if he is guilty or not.

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