Okay - this is a serious inquiry. Suppose...just for the sake of this conversation...white nationalists got their dream - a race war and they won...(I know this is hard for anyone to imagine or take seriously, but let's try.) What now? How would our government be different - how would it be the same? What laws would be changed? Which ones would we keep? Would we maintain a capitalist society? Would we keep the three branches? What about checks and balances?And...in this hypothetical situation, how would life be better? Would crime cease to exist? Would we be more or less productive as a nation? Would we become isolationists, simply tending to our own affairs or would we be an outgoing and aggressive force in other parts of the world?
Would the problems of things like health care and homelessness simply vanish? Would we be able to compete in the educational realm?
if you are truly interested in the likely nature of such a society, do some back-ground reading; start with: 'Imperium', 'Mein Kampf'(the James Murphy trsltn!) & 'Which Way Western Man'(by: William Gayley Simpson); you could also try Klassen's books(who knows? you might even learn some-thing!)
ReplyDeletethe ideological basis for such a future society would be 'racial socialism'; some-what similar to National Socialism but on a trans-national basis; the particular form of government will utilise the 'aristocratic principle' where only the best, the brightest and the most faithful to their Race shall have the right to rule; 'the aristocratic principle' worked well in many former European monarchies(before they became too 'jewed' that is)...any-one interested: study the system in place in England prior to the 'Norman Conquest' or, alternatively, the system in place in Nordic nations in Viking days; where every man was the absolute master of his own house-hold & his own destiny and all worked for the common good of the volk; a society in which, incidentally, women were treated with much more respect than the Levant(cf: Tacitus' comments about how the ancient Germans treated their women & their families!); such a form of government, even in feudal days, worked much better than what we have now because the monarch was 'above corruption' and 'above intimidation' and, if s(he) was also a person of sterling character, then they could almost be guaranteed to govern in the interests of the volk(Elisabeh I springs immediately to mind as some-one who ful-filled many of these criteria!); this does not mean 'a dictatorship' because the monarchs were not above being 'toppled'/'curtailed' by the nobility!(as happened to King John in England)
any-one who objectively studies the life of Adolf Hitler will find another person who ful-filled most if not all of the necessary criteria....there were definite reasons why many international states-men of the time had nothing but praise for the Führer...it's because he truly had the best interests of his people @ heart!
as for crime: that is primarily a product of the jewish influence on society; the greater the jewish influence, the higher the crime rate: whether that be caused by whites who have gone 'hay-wire' thnx to the malicious influence of jewish ideas and/or an influx of the worst of the worst of the Turd World!
but: one wonders why Nikki should be curious about such a future system?
it's highly un-likely that you would be admitted into such a white home-land or White Imperium!
(AAMOF: i don't anticipate being part of it either! why? because i don't really see my-self surviving the coming Race War...and, as i stated here before, i'm mainly in 'the Movement' for revenge!)
Ha! What kind of government would we have is definately a question all of the anti-white crowd should be asking themselves right now.
ReplyDeleteFirst, once you are half-way winning either in a political war or a conventional one, people flock in towards your cause. I'd say we're about 35% there and with multi-culturalism breaking down everywhere, that number grows.
Here's what I think might happen: first like the USSR, I think our government might just run out of reasources. That would lead to those guys being on the way out for the most part, certainly jews first (once again like the USSR). After that you'd have a more Nationalistic form of government and a very nationalist population.
Another possibility is an all out race war, which would be over in no time. It would probably be a bloody white civil war but as far as Whites against black and jews, thats a joke I never got. Jews aren't fighters and no matter what side of history you stand on, we all have to agree with that. Once they've run out of people to fight for them, they are out of the picture at least nationally. Blacks are a joke too. Look at how well they lasted with out AS MUCH government support after Katrina. And the best black fighters on earth, in Africa, get slaughtered each time they square off with whites in combat. If anything, it would be a war against whites who support jewish power (or vice versa, more likely) and whites who want thier nation back. Don't put much hope in central American immigrants wiping out the ugly white race in America either. If these were productive, industrious, clever people, they would be here looking for work. The idea of them organizing and helping the anti-white crowd/jews fight a war against white America is laughable too.
So when its all over and since whites have more to gain on the pro-white side (funny thing logic, huh), we'd win. So what then? First America would get smaller. The government would be the first thing to shrink. What kind of shape would the war leave us in? Who knows?
Once things are headed down the track to rebuild, I can see us relying much on foreign money to get back on our feet. I know thats a big white nationalist no-no but its a fact. We'd have to sell off a lot to recover from any civil war. At the same time, we'd be trying to limit anything having to do with Israel and nations who were still controled or influenced by jews. This would be easier than people think. We'd fully support anyone who didn't deal with Israel and make a concentraited effort to not deal with anyone who did support their terrorist state.
Most likely we'd keep the same structure of government because if nothing else, thats what Americans are used to. If our side in particular had the loin's share of power, you'd see a lot of National Socialist elements but thinking we'd be NS overnight is pure fantasy, even if we did have another civil war.
Basically, we'd just put America back to the way it was before WW2 and the jewish influence. After that, the cards may fall where they may. The blacks would be shipped back to Africa where they can behave as they are so naturally inclined. Any jew who can't go to Israel on his own power, will be shipped there, complete with kosher in-flight meals. Central American immigrants would have 6 months or so to go home permantly. Illegals would have a week or they'd be shot. It sounds harsh but we'd be trying to run an actual nation.
I've got some ideas for some additions and subtractions to the government but most of it isn't the juicy "look what the white guy said" stuff that is looked for on this blog. Frankly, my opinions on how it would be aren't the how-it-should be. Its just how I think it might go down. Odds are I wouldn't live through any of it nor would I particularly care to. And on top of that, they don't let guys like me make policy. I'm a worker and a soldier and thats about it.
Listen to the interview I had with Taylor Bowles...not that I agree with everything he says concerning policy.
ReplyDeleteConcerning isolationism: We would probably be a lot better off--limited foreign wars, that is for sure.
Didn't G. Washington admonish the American people not to get entangled in foreign wars?
Washington also said...
ReplyDelete"I hope I shall possess firmness and virtue enough to maintain what I consider the most enviable of all titles, the character of an honest man."
http://nimbusters.org/forum/quiz/quiz.php?quiz=3
Chris, Jimbo- You're obviously intelligent, and without doubt, true believers- but you're also completely insane.
ReplyDeleteJimbo, I'm sure you've posted the answer in more than a few of your meandering, bizarrely-worded diatribes, but I'm out of the loop- "revenge" for what?
~ Miller
First thing we need to do is get rid of the age of consent laws!
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry for the crude comment by one of my many Imposters. Just look at the profiles, and you'll see who is who.
ReplyDeletemüeller inquires:Jimbo, I'm sure you've posted the answer in more than a few of your meandering, bizarrely-worded diatribes, but I'm out of the loop-"revenge" for what?
ReplyDeletebasically for: fckng UP! my life, my family's life & my friends' lives!
i only discovered the true identity of the culprits five/six yrs ago, after reading MacDonald!
as of now: i can't decide 100% whthr to 'sheet home' all of the blame to the jews or the free-masons! (the jews' "running dogs"!)
the reason for that is that, in Oz, there aren't that many jews!
how-ever: when i'v decided where the greatest portion of 'blame' lies, then i will act!
Revenge doesn't make much political sense. However, the whites who have actively helped the jews, participated in activities like defending negro killers and rapist, that a different story. I'd just as soon just ship all the jews home to Israel and let the Arabs and Persians deal with them (maybe this time with OUR SUPPORT, instead of the other way around).
ReplyDeleteI was thinking of this the other day. What about the race mixers? First, there is no way to find out everyone who has race mixed and who hasn't. Besides, if some trailor park princess got impressed with some affirmative action money (which is 90% of it), should she be shot? Why not just shoot every woman who was or is a prostitute? Its a complex issue that gets even more complicated once you start talking about what to do with the mongrel children belonging to race traitors.
I thought to myself that maybe the best thing to do would be to send the race mixing whites with the blacks where ever they are sent in Africa. To me that would make the most sense. If someone likes negros so much to have children with one (or normally many), then they can go experience black culture up close and away from white society. Like I might have stated earlier, we'd have to pump a lot of money at first into whatever new black nation we set up for the former US-resident negros. This would create an interesting social structure there. Blacks would know that any white person there would be one who obviously, at least at one time, loved negros. Just like in the USA, I doubt that would matter much to them though.
So thats how that would go down, we write you a check for how much your estate is worth and anything or value you can't take with you (you'd be able to take your money, investments, ect). Or if you didn't have anything, like the majority of race mixers I know, you could elect to be on "settler assistance." In other words, we'd pay you to move there and you'd have a job waiting on you. The only catch is, any white race traitor would have to live with the negros they adore so much in their semi-orderly white society. The irony of that would cause me to chuckle frequently. Any thoughts?
chris drake:So thats how that would go down, we write you a cheque for how much your estate is worth and anything or value you can't take with you (you'd be able to take your money, investments, ect)
ReplyDeletethat might be OK for white race traitors: how-ever u wanna define them; for me: the free-masons r the most easily identifiable!
the damage they have wrought in my country over the last 60yrs or so, as gofers for the kikes, is almost incalculable!
some-one who's just joined 'a Lodge' might, just might, be 'let off the hook' but any-one who has been a member for five years or more is 'on the cards' AFAIMC and any mason above the 'rank' of the 32° should be dispatched post haste to that Great Lodge in the sky!
(there shouldn't be too much ker-fuffle over that because even the jd-xtians hate their fckn GUTz!)
'free-masonry' here has been responsible for:i/the abortion holocaust; ii/wide-spread 'acceptance' of pooftas and iii/gun confiscation; the over-turning of 'the White Australia Policy' was also due mainly to masonic politicians(working together with Marxist rat-bags from the universities!)
AFA the jews go, i'm DEAD-SET AGAINST! letting them 'waltz off' to the hob-goblin Talmudic gangster state of YidsraHELL with wads of Aryan cash & bags of Aryan gold; any-thing the jews have got in the way of 'gelt' is courtesy of us, m8!
also: most, if not all, of their $$$ could be confiscated on the basis of 'fraud' & 'embezzlement'; viz: the $$$gazillions$$$ they have extorted from vrs white nations on the basis of the HollowHoax!
(a large portion of this almost incalculable wealth could then be forwarded to various Arab nations....after the jews have been repatriated to their 'home-land'!...that is: if they're allowed to go any-where except UP THE CHIMNEY...i still haven't 100% decided on that one yet, either!)
You guys remind me of the "Dungeons and Dragons" geeks I used to see in school. Your fantastical "plans" make just as much sense. If the original Nazis, the real ones, didn't have their shit together enough to accomplish even one of their major goals, how are disorganized, mentally disordered goons such as yourself going to bring these crazy ideas to fruition?
ReplyDelete~ Mueller
I think the reason your movement will always fail was best summed up in the overused but still true quote by a teenaged Jewess. "... People ARE [my emphasis] basically good". And most people, even those with a really whacked-out view of the world and society, would not go to the disgusting lengths that you would. Most people would be repelled at the mere concept of committing mass murder, or rounding up their neighbors- regardless of race or ethnicity- for forced expulsion to another continent. You will lose because of basic human compassion. Even if it was proven that kindness was an unforgivable weakness, I- and the majority of humankind- would not become inhuman automatons bent on achieving "racial domination" through violence. Not that such a thing can be proven. Who's your ultimate authority? From what source are you granted the right to do these ghastly things about which you're verbally masturbating? Why should I or anyone else give you any credence or attention when you have the manners of a hyena, addressing the host of this forum in the most disgusting terms (while she proves herself to be of higher moral caliber than you'll ever attain- allowing your filthy words to remain [and at the same time stand
ReplyDeleteas a testament to your PROVEN status as a representative of the REAL Untermensch]).
~ Mueller
The only reason Nikki asks this question is that she needs more grist for the mill...
ReplyDeleteShe isn't serious about debating or even considering why more and more people are turning to white nationalist thoughts.
Maybe you're right as to her intentions, maybe you're not. Either way, she's opening the floor to you lot and you're all being permitted to opine. So quit your as yet baseless bitching and spout whatever rubbish you like, Mike.
ReplyDeleteActually, I really don't know why jimbo is even speaking to this question as I specifically asked about "our" government.
ReplyDeleteAt any rate, it appears that the only American racist here with any thoughts on this is Chris Drake.
I can't help but ask Chris - if you were to send all of the blacks and race traitors to Africa, what makes you think that the governments there would agree to that? From where I am sitting it seems to me that you are assuming that if white nationalists came to power the rest of the world would simply accept what you are proposing. How does that work?
Also - since there are so many more of us than there are of you why wouldn't you guys consider another country or island where you could have an all white society?
Michael - the question put out there is not a loaded one. As I have indicated before, I have no desire to "debate" a racist - been there, done that, and it really doesn't go anywhere. I AM curious about what the younger racists think about this.
Mueller - thank you for the kind words and the defense of my honor.
mueller:I think the reason your movement will always fail was best summed up in the overused but still true quote by a teenaged Jewess. "... People ARE [my emphasis] basically good"
ReplyDeletetypical kike crap!
white people are basically good: that's abt it!
as for the rest: their 'good-ness' is directly proportional to their amnt of white genes!
but....hang on!
why do i get the distinct impression that yr a fckn kike yr-self? (just like nikki!)
And most people, even those with a really whacked-out view of the world and society, would not go to the disgusting lengths that you would
really?
how abt the ZOG boys in Iraq & Afghanistan?
they seem to be making a good fist of it: brutally massacring people who never done them the slightest wrong....then: of course: we have the almost daily atrocities committed by the kikes in YidsraHell against the Palestinians; also: their recent gross war crimes in the Lebanon!
and: lest we forget!: the 50+million white, christian Russians murdered by the God-DAMN jews!
and: we have TNB all over the place!...like for instance: the Knoxville murders of Channon Christian & Christopher Newsom!
when you have those sort of 'neighbours', who needs them?
it's called SELF DEFENCE! and even the christian Bible legitimises THAT!
genocide is being committed against the White Race; the White Race has the right to defend it-self!....it's as simple as THAT!
Most people would be repelled at the mere concept of committing mass murder, or rounding up their neighbors- regardless of race or ethnicity- for forced expulsion to another continent
tell it to the fckn JEWS!...they done EXACTLY THAT after WWII with the ethnic Germans; they did exactly that in Palestine, they encouraged EXACTLY THAT in Rhodesia & Sth Africa and they're doing EXACTLY THAT RIGHT NOW IN THE jewSA with a mud flood invasion; dispossessing the white 'Kwans from their livelihoods, properties and very lives!
it is a Law of Nature that an organism has the right to expel a toxic infection that is killing it!
You will lose because of basic human compassion. Even if it was proven that kindness was an unforgivable weakness, I- and the majority of humankind- would not become inhuman automatons bent on achieving "racial domination" through violence
once again...tell it to the jews!
that's exactly WTF is happening RIGHT HERE & N0W.....the White Race is the one that has shown compassion, kind-ness & mercy to non-whites, just like Mr Hal Turner said on the Knoxville court house steps a few weeks ago; all we have got in return is Wichita massacres & the Knoxville five!
but, as Klassen noted, the jews correctly identified the three fatal weaknesses of the White Race hundreds of years ago and, like the parasites they are, they have been exploiting those ever since:
i/the gullibility complex;
ii/the fair-ness neurosis;
iii/a fatal pre-dilection for law & order: irrespective of whose 'law' or WHAT 'order'!
Not that such a thing can be proven. Who's your ultimate authority? From what source are you granted the right to do these ghastly things about which you're verbally masturbating?
*we gain that right from the Laws of Nature which state that the highest duty of an organism is to survive!
*we gain that right from the manifest good-ness of the White Race & its manifest achievements so that: "that which is good for the White Race is the ultimate virtue; that which is bad for the White Race is the ultimate evil!"
*we gain that right from the manifest bad-ness of the overwhelming majority of the non-white races;
*we gain that right from the legitimate right of self-defence which is and has been sanctioned by every major religion and philosophical discourse in history!
Why should I or anyone else give you any credence or attention when you have the manners of a hyena, addressing the host of this forum in the most disgusting terms (while she proves herself to be of higher moral caliber than you'll ever attain- allowing your filthy words to remain [and at the same time stand as a testament to your PROVEN status as a representative of the REAL Untermensch])
as for "addressing the host of this forum in the most disgusting terms"
: she STARTED IT!...as you will find if you read my previous posts!
and: keep on believing that Nikki is 'of a high moral calibre'....yes!..keep on believing that while niggaz are raping and murdering yr wife & children in front of you, keep on believing that while niggaz burn yr house down and kill yr pets, keep on believing that while niggaz mutilate you! and....yes!...keep on believing that while yr being spirited away to some ZOG gulag in the dead of night!....never to be seen again!
i don't talk to my enemies with 'courtesy and respect' because they warrant NONE!...i try, as best i can, to warn white people of their future; it's up to the gods whether or not they're 'convicted' by such!
You guys remind me of the "Dungeons and Dragons" geeks I used to see in school. Your fantastical "plans" make just as much sense. If the original Nazis, the real ones, didn't have their shit together enough to accomplish even one of their major goals, how are disorganized, mentally disordered goons such as yourself going to bring these crazy ideas to fruition?
ReplyDelete~ Mueller
Did I not say about 8 times that I didn't feel I was qualified to plan out a new government? As I stated earlier, I'm a worker and a soldier and thats about it. As far as our ideas bearing fruit, thats up to the American people. The movement is just a thermometer to the rest of White America. For ever 1 guy in the movement, there are 10 voters who feel the same way. Keep that in mind.
I can't help but ask Chris - if you were to send all of the blacks and race traitors to Africa, what makes you think that the governments there would agree to that? From where I am sitting it seems to me that you are assuming that if white nationalists came to power the rest of the world would simply accept what you are proposing. How does that work?
ReplyDeleteAlso - since there are so many more of us than there are of you why wouldn't you guys consider another country or island where you could have an all white society?
Both are good questions. First, I think most poor African nations (run by negros, not Arabs since they seem to have it together) would be happy for an influx of American money and business. We'd basically cut off aid to the other African nations since its a dumb idea to start with. We'd basically tell them unless they had some business to benefit the new host-nation, they were out of luck. This puts whatever nation we choose at the top of the heap. They can choose to aid those other countries or not. Its in the hands of basically, blacks from America. As you know, they are about the most uncharitable people on earth.
(quick question: did anyone see that special on the white kids who started an organization to help starving negros in Africa? Not a black face among them. Typical.)
We'd probably set our blacks and fallen whites up in a section of the country that was a healthy distance from the rest of the population. Let's face it, as much as negros from America talk about African culture, most of them know nothing about it. Depending on the culture we set them near, they might get murdered wholesale by their genital mutilating, slave owning, tribe slaughtering brothers and sisters.
On top of that, the nation we choose will have a huge job market while we prepare it for our blacks and whatnots. There would be lots to be done to get everything ready and there would be years of work before any of the blacks from America even got there. None of this would happen overnight.
And what about us? What if whites who don't care to be slaves and conscripts come out on the short end of the stick? An all white nation is what we've been talking about for years. Heck, even the UN states that everyone gets a homeland (well, Israel gets one, denys anyone else from having one).
We'd actually stand a better chance of getting ourselves a large portion of America (politically) or creaping up the political latter to the top here. Once we had a nation of our own, this one would do one of two things: become more oppressive to whites or try to do whatever possible to keep whites from leaving and moving to the white nation. Remember that retarded commercial about all the blacks leaving earth? Heck, America would fall apart if all the whites just left one or two states. With our own homeland, we'd be as powerful as israel. It would clearly be a focal point of white nationalism globally and as much as you might think you want to send away all the whites since you can't put them in camps, I doubt thats something you want to do. Something to keep in mind through all of this is that we are blacks who are easily made into slaves or jews who insist on others fighting their battles. Our own nation would spell the end for our enemy's power over the former white nations.
All of this is interesting stuff but I'll remind everyone, that I just speculate. I'm by no means an authority on domestic and foriegn policy. I've worked on a handful of local campaigns, been in the movement for years and read a lot. Aside from that, I'm an engineer, if that helps any. Myself, I hardly consider me as someone anyone would hire for nation-planning. I'm very good at what I do but I know where my qualifications lay.
I forgot to address one comment. A lot of nations are already starting to show signs of pro-white governments. Plenty are starting to figure out that if they want a nation, they'd best be for the people who built it and it belongs to. I think by the time we take power here in the capitol of jewish power, there will be a lot more pro-white nations already around. I think you'll see Russia given back to its people first, followed by Bulgaria, Lithuania, Estonia, Italy then the old Norse countries followed by Germany, France and Spain. I can see a lot of people being asked the question, "what do we do with so many people that don't belong here?" as well.
ReplyDelete"First, I think most poor African nations (run by negros, not Arabs since they seem to have it together)..."
ReplyDeleteNow let's see if "Mueller" takes the bait.
I am not a "policy wonk" and wouldn't be able to begin to explain what does and does not need to be done to rectify the situation.
ReplyDeleteAll I know is the current state of affairs is totally unacceptable to the survival of our people.
See, I'm with you on that. We're just revolutionaries who will probably become near-useless in the big sceme of things after its all over. Thats fine. Like I said, I enjoy being an engineer and when its all said and done, I'll just do that but for a nation of my own, not for one who is more concerned about jewish interests. In fact, if its a violent revolution, I don't expect to live through it. Thats life.
ReplyDeleteAll very interesting musings, Chris. Now, I know that the number of those who sympathize with the ehite nationalist ideolgy is substantially larger than the number of people actually in "the movement." I'll concede that. I doubt that it is a 10:1 ratio as you suggest -but there are a lot more.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I tend to agree with Mueller in that most people are inherently good and even those who do sympathize might not be willing to engage in what you are suggesting.
Also...there are many among those sympathizers who would absolutely blow a gasget if they thought you were in any way violating the Constitution of the United States.
Additionally, even if you guys were to win such a war, there would be insurgent groups attacking you at every turn for a very long period of time. What I can foresee is a war-torn country much like the Third World countries that you guys often predict we are becoming. The mere task of "rounding up" so many people for deportation would require an army much larger than I believe you are capable of raising.
One of the reasons I have asked this is that for a number of years I have been trying to determine how that would work and gotten very few answers. The "Turner Diaries," which I believe to be poorly written and somewhat convoluted, spelled out a few things but I believe failed to account for the sheer size of the United States or the number of people you would be up against.
What I am understanding you to say is that the government itself would remain the same in form only scaled way down?
nikki: Additionally, even if you guys were to win such a war, there would be insurgent groups attacking you at every turn for a very long period of time. What I can foresee is a war-torn country much like the Third World countries that you guys often predict we are becoming. The mere task of "rounding up" so many people for deportation would require an army much larger than I believe you are capable of raising
ReplyDeletea real 'student of history' iz Nikki, oy vey!
HTF do you think the jews 'took control' in the USSR?
they never had a huge army or a huge pool of supporters; sure: there were a lot of 'dis-affected' people(mainly military re: the Russian débâcle on the WWI Eastern Front) but they had massive financial backing from foreign ZOGs: WTF makes you think we won't have the same; only: instead of ZOGs: backing from, let's say, hypothetically, Russia, China or even Iran?
the jews seen fit for a small cabal of committed revolutionaries to topple a huge, un-wieldy empire!
('The Turner Diaries' presented only one possible scenario: we tailor our strategies to fit the circumstances; as any serious student of Sun Tzu would!)
we see fit to do the same;
look for a time of economic & social chaos!
nikki, and other deluded souls here, seem to think that the entity known as "the 'Kwa" is gunna last for-ever and a day!
well: here's a FLASH for youse!
youse are ALREADY on borrowed time!
the clock has already STRUCK mid-night: the 'Kwa is teetering on the brink of massive financial & social collapse; but, believing yr own bull-shit, you think that some-thing inherently contradictory as multi-culturalism can 'sustain' it-self!
'diversity' isn't your 'strength'; it is yr greatest weak-ness!
that very phrase is an oxymoron!
yr whole filthy, corrupt, putrid ZOG system is abt as 'stable' as a three-legged pig!
make no mistake: when the opportunity presents it-self: we're gunna kick the whole house of cards down!
WTF sez we won't have the help of 100 divisions of Russian troops to do it?
now there's a conundrum for ya: the very nation that was rspnsbl for advancing the jew agenda in the twentieth century will be rspnsbl for destroying it in the twenty-first!
who sez that "fate doesn't have a certain sense of irony!"
However, I tend to agree with Mueller in that most people are inherently good and even those who do sympathize might not be willing to engage in what you are suggesting.
ReplyDeleteInherently good or inherently cowardly? Frankly, there is nothing more evil than watching someone drown instead of saving them. Wait, there is something more evil. If you were waiting your sister drown and you rushed away to help a complete stranger change a tire. In a way I see the anti-white movement as someone standing on the bank, torn between helping the stranger with a simple task or wading out and holding thier sister under so that she drowns more quickly.
Moving on.
Also...there are many among those sympathizers who would absolutely blow a gasget if they thought you were in any way violating the Constitution of the United States
Like they are blowing a gasket now over the Patriot Act? In any case, I don't see how we'd be voilating he constitution.
Additionally, even if you guys were to win such a war, there would be insurgent groups attacking you at every turn for a very long period of time. What I can foresee is a war-torn country much like the Third World countries that you guys often predict we are becoming. The mere task of "rounding up" so many people for deportation would require an army much larger than I believe you are capable of raising.
Whoah there! Are you saying that the anti-white crowd would resort to terrorism if the white people got their country back? In that case, we much be one well behaved bunch considering that we have the zionist in control of our nation.
As far as the army being raised, I doubt you'd really need one. Once you cut off government aid to non-whites, they'd be done with America anyhow. That means no affirmative action jobs, no free schooling (with their low test scores) and no quota hiring. And you know a lot of businesses hire non-whites without being forced to because they are told that diversity sells. Well, thats out the door too once they are no longer in a financially gainful position to keep those people around. I think 90% of them would want to leave, especially knowing some whites would be going with them.
One of the reasons I have asked this is that for a number of years I have been trying to determine how that would work and gotten very few answers. The "Turner Diaries," which I believe to be poorly written and somewhat convoluted, spelled out a few things but I believe failed to account for the sheer size of the United States or the number of people you would be up against.
You seem to keep thinking that whites are all anti-white. Everyone with the exception of a few normally disfunctional or very old people, is either somewhat pro-white or nearly all the way. I think you underestimate the human spirit and the shear size of the movement. Know any soccer players? Lots of people like soccer.
What I am understanding you to say is that the government itself would remain the same in form only scaled way down?
We'd be looking to change the government and put in safe guards to make sure it never left white control again. However, we'd be scaling down in the process. America will give way like the Soviet Union did, like it or not. And like the Soviet Union, there will be an angry nation full of pro-white citizens after its over. Watch and see. You've bet on the wrong horse.
Inherently good or inherently cowardly? Frankly, there is nothing more evil than watching someone drown instead of saving them. Wait, there is something more evil. If you were waiting your sister drown and you rushed away to help a complete stranger change a tire. In a way I see the anti-white movement as someone standing on the bank, torn between helping the stranger with a simple task or wading out and holding thier sister under so that she drowns more quickly.
ReplyDeleteI think we have different definitions of "good" and "evil." I also believe that the majority of Americans come up on our side.
Like they are blowing a gasket now over the Patriot Act? In any case, I don't see how we'd be voilating he constitution
Actually, I believe you would have to violate certain Constitutional guarantees. When you are determining who is a race traitor and who is not - would they have their day in court? If you plan to make any changes to the structure of the government, you will be in violation. By deporting all those you want to leave you will be in violation of their civil rights.
Whoah there! Are you saying that the anti-white crowd would resort to terrorism if the white people got their country back? In that case, we much be one well behaved bunch considering that we have the zionist in control of our nation.
LOL! This is pretty funny. First of all, what you are suggesting just might be considered terrorism by those you refer to as "anti-white." And, seeing that law-enforcement now refers to many white supremacists and groups as domestic terrorists, it stands to reason that should such a scenario as you have presented would result in a major uprising of the people. Even after you won, there would be those who would continue fighting tooth and nail against you. Yes...they might just engage in what you perceive as terrorist acts - they certainly are not going to just lay down and roll over. And...this doesn't mean that they would be "anti-white" - just anti Nazi.
As far as the army being raised, I doubt you'd really need one. Once you cut off government aid to non-whites, they'd be done with America anyhow. That means no affirmative action jobs, no free schooling (with their low test scores) and no quota hiring. And you know a lot of businesses hire non-whites without being forced to because they are told that diversity sells. Well, thats out the door too once they are no longer in a financially gainful position to keep those people around. I think 90% of them would want to leave, especially knowing some whites would be going with them.
There you have it - once you mess with the Constitution, you have shot yourselves in the foot. And...just as you believe there are a lot of people who don't buy into to this racist mumbo-jumbo who would resent the hell out of the Nazi's for trying to set this country back 50 years. You seem to be thinking that after the war is won, everyone will acquiesce to the wishes of the new regime. You and I both know better.
You seem to keep thinking that whites are all anti-white. Everyone with the exception of a few normally disfunctional or very old people, is either somewhat pro-white or nearly all the way. I think you underestimate the human spirit and the shear size of the movement. Know any soccer players? Lots of people like soccer.
"Pro-white?" Chris, puhleaze - you mean racist. Actually a lot of very old people are racist - that was the way of the world in their time. Personally, I don't believe that you can honestly say that the "human spirit" is racist. How could anyone underestimate the "human spirit?" We've seen precisely that after 9-11 - after the OKC Bombing - and that is just in this country. Everyone pulled together without regard to race. The human spirit does not see color, Chris. One of the things that sets us apart is compassion - and that is color blind.
We'd be looking to change the government and put in safe guards to make sure it never left white control again. However, we'd be scaling down in the process. America will give way like the Soviet Union did, like it or not. And like the Soviet Union, there will be an angry nation full of pro-white citizens after its over. Watch and see. You've bet on the wrong horse.
Can you tell me how you would maintain white control without altering the Constitution?
Oh - about that horse - I only bet on a sure thing.
nikki: Oh - about that horse - I only bet on a sure thing
ReplyDeletenot only have you bet on the wrong horse...you've bet on the wrong race!(pun intended!)
yr on the wrong side of history, BITCH!...and, sooner rather than l8r, yr gunna PAY for it!
re: all yr other bull-shit points: know that phrase: 'political power comes out of the barrel of a gun'?...you think we'd 'make a move' un-less we were almost 100% sure of success?
wake up & smell the coffee you fckn drongo!
we'll be 'playing it' just like the kikes did when they toppled the Russian Empire after WWI...BET on it!
when we strike!, it'll be with over-whelming military superiority(either garnered/requistioned from the 'Kwa) or courtesy of a friendly WHITE(or even non-white!) government!
WTF do you think invented all that high-tech military gear?
niggaz?
spicz?
jewz?
(how many niggaz can even operate such equipment any-way?)
pull the other one!
we won't be going to war hoping to win, we'll be going to war KNOWING that we'll win!
"in war: strike like lightning with the ferocity of a tiger!"
Sun Tzu
there'll be nuthin' left of you fuckers except for a bloody smear on the road after the treads of our conquering tanks have crushed youse!
ReplyDeleteand as for all the other mudz & licorice all-sorts who you think will 'put up a fight': they'll run like scared rabbits! when they say the fury of Aryan man un-leashed!
I'll add more to this on Monday but for now let me remind everyone of some things. People aren't inheriently "anti-racist" anymore than white people are inheriently likely to produce black children and vice-versa. Saying that is a lot like the simple minded defensive slogans of the anti-white movement like "all children will play together..." Yeah, and a child will play with a rattlesnake too.
ReplyDeleteFrom Serbia to Africa, we see how "people getting along in diverse harmony" turns to all out wholesale killing. Sometimes its because the government quits forcing what Nikki here claims happens naturally (but you need lots of laws and regulations in place to ensure it does). Sometimes its because the strong runs out of things to share with the weak (like what happens when there are no more jobs and support for the immigrants). This is where my human-spirit comment reappears.
You can't force people together. The communist did, failed and when they left, all the tension was unleashed. Heck, most of those people were technically the same color as well! If everything was soooo natural, you wouldn't need an oppressive government like the one we have to first make it happen, then attempt to keep it that way. You wouldn't have to censor and shut people up all the time. You wouldnt have to "protect the hearts and minds" of children from anything other than pure out communist propaganda. Whats next? Man is supposed to naturally live underwater? Sure, you can use artificial means to accomplish this but as soon as it breaks down, and it will, you drown.
Simply put, you can't force people on each other forever. You can crame food in someone's mouth and fill their pockets full of trinkets for a while. You can tell them its your way or prison. You can threaten their means to support themselves and their families (one of your favorites). Fact is, it can't last, it won't last and its not lasting.
And kindly get off of this whole "people who want to set the country back 50 years" bit. Set it back? So it can do what? Become like this in another 50 years? Wrong. This time we aren't making the mistake of having non-whites around for convience sake. There have always been enough whites around to get the job done and we don't need their cheap shoddy labor anymore than the rich who hire them need one more buck.
PS To everyone, I don't care if a pro-white government calls itself the National Communist Enviromentalist Party.
And PS to Nikki, some things I mention here will become rather ironic very soon. I'm kind of laughing about this some myself.
Nikki wrote, "Personally, I don't believe that you can honestly say that the "human spirit" is racist. How could anyone underestimate the "human spirit?" We've seen precisely that after 9-11 - after the OKC Bombing - and that is just in this country. Everyone pulled together without regard to race. The human spirit does not see color...".
ReplyDeleteIf you don't believe the human spirit is racist, then why does one still see so many people aasociating racially? I recall a recent book with a title "Why Do All The Black Kids Sit Together In The Cafeteria", or something to that effect. People are naturally tribal, and race is seen by some religious folk as extended family, another means which God used to organize his greater family. If forced diversity is so "natural", why must we invest so much time, resources, and effort in "managing" it. The SPLC's "Mix It Up" program implies that people must be endlessly conditioned through incessant propaganda to forego natural tribal associations.
You also ask why people ignore such differences during events such as OKC and 9-11? I suggest it's because they sense a greater threat to the community as a WHOLE. There's an Arabic proverb which effectively sums this up:"Me against my brother; me and my brother against my cousin; me, my brother, AND my cousin against the stranger". People of different races have a greater tendency to come together only in the face of a common threat to the greater community. Afterwards, most return to their more customary associations. It works similarly in the animal kingdom; different species may come together at the watering hole to seek sustenance, but it doesn't mean they live and mate together.
Voluntary integration is one thing. However, coerced integration is wrong, because it forecloses individual choice. The right to associate automatically implies the right NOT to associate.
Thats an excellent break down. I'd like to look a this too, from a non-white point of view as well. Take for instance how blacks view blacks who hang around whites. They rightfully view them as socially disfunctional, and as far as their own community is concerned, they are. Whites do the same thing on a broader scale. Take for instance how much whites (even "non-racist," read apathetic) make fun of "wiggers." Its understood that a white person who attempts to meld into the black community is a socially disfunction person at best. A white woman who associates with blacks is most often in a worse place socially and emotionally. Black males certainly prefer the company of white women to their own for obvious reasons, but quietly realize that a white woman would have to be a whore to engage in sex with a black male. Most of them treat them as such, except in cases where they are convinced they are with the only white woman they will ever get. I constantly see morbidly obese white women with fit looking black males who look like they take good care of themselves. Does that require a masters in psycology to figure out? Don't get me wrong, I've known some weak minded, yet attractive white women to flock to negros with fame (given by whites/jews) or money (given by whites/jews). Thats a natural fact just as race itself. Sex sells and there will always be ones who don't care where the money is coming from.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, look at where our "banding together" (under jewish direction) got us. We're in a war on two fronts (Iraq and to a lessor extent, Afganistan), the islamic freedom fighters have increased in number and the once again, the only people to benefit are jewish. Heck, even working class jews ought to be angry about where are big "pulling together" has gotten us. We pulled together to wave flags and hold hands (flags once representing the United States, I mean). We all "Stood Together" for israel and now we're bogged down in a war to sucure their region. Way to go, "modern" USA! What other wonderful accomplishments will come from us being friends with israel, several thousand people losing their lives, another pointless war to extend jewish power (Iran) and "pulling together" to never, ever, ever question the zionist state? Who knows? Maybe we'll lose ten thousand young lives this time. Maybe we'll kill twenty thousand or so of them! As long as I get to hear about how good the anti-white crowd is and that I'm evil the whole time, pass the popcorn.
ReplyDeleteChris - good point about how blacks view other blacks who get friendly with whites.
ReplyDeleteOut of sheer boredom one night, I was watching one of these "dating shows" where it showed a couple's date from start to finish. It was a black couple; both the man and the woman were dressed conventionally. At the end of the show, the woman told the man she didn't want to see him any more because he acted "too white".
Blacks commonly refer to other blacks who act mainstream or get too friendly with whites as "Oreos".
Coerced integration has been only a one-way street - non-whites forcing themselves upon whites. Blacks get to keep their BET; Latinos their Univision and Telemundo. And when MLK Day became a holiday, it wasn't in addition to existing holidays, but at the expense of Washington's Birthday. In other words, the founder of the country gets to take a back seat to a serial adulterer and certified plagiarist.