Thursday, June 25, 2009

Icing On The Cake

North Bergen blogger ordered detained
Thursday, June 25, 2009


Harold “Hal” Turner, the controversial internet radio host and blogger from North Bergen, was ordered detained Thursday by a federal magistrate on charges of threatening to kill three federal appeals court judges in Chicago for upholding a ban on handguns.

“I am concerned about the defendant’s dangerousness to the community,” said U.S. Magistrate Judge Michael A. Shipp during a hearing in Newark a day after Turner’s arrest by the FBI.

The government and Turner’s attorney, Michael Orozco, offered the judge a bail package that included confining Turner to his Paterson Plank Road apartment, restricting his access to the Internet, and having his mother post her Pennsylvania home as collateral for a $200,000 bond.

But Shipp said he was not satisfied that the security for the bond had been sufficiently vetted by court personnel and rejected the bail package, telling Orozco he could reapply.

At the same time, the judge granted the government’s request to transfer Turner to Chicago for further proceedings in the case.

Wearing a grey T-shirt and blue jeans, his wrists and ankles locked in shackles, Turner, 47, appeared surprised when Assistant U.S. Attorney L. Judson Welle told the judge that his release would pose “a great danger” to the community.

Turner, who for years has pushed the limits of constitutionally protected speech, may have crossed that line in Internet postings June 2 and 3 allegedly threatening the judges in retaliation for their recent ruling upholding handgun bans in Chicago and a suburb.

The postings, in which Turner said the judges “deserved to be killed,” included their photographs, work address and a picture of the building where they work, Welle said.

Turner also made reference to a judge in the same district whose husband and mother were murdered in 2005, Welle said.

“Apparently, the 7th U.S. Circuit court didn’t get the hint after those killings. It appears another lesson is needed,” Turner allegedly wrote on his blog.

Killing the judges would “send a message” to other judges that they must “obey the constitution or die,” Welle said, referring to Turners’ postings.

During a search of Turner’s home, agents recovered three handguns, a shotgun and 350 rounds of ammunition, Welle told the judge. Orozco said the weapons are all licensed.

Turner, who bills his internet radio network as “the last bastion of true free speech” in the U.S. media, admitted to agents that he would be responsible if someone acted on his postings, the prosecutor said.

After the hearing, Orozco acknowledged that Turner has called for the murder of judges and lawmakers, among others, in the past, and that in the wake of the slayings of an abortion doctor and a guard at Holocaust Museum in Washington, D.C., the landscape appears to have changed.

“Clearly this is a First Amendment issue and whether he dances too close to the line is an issue to be determined by the courts,” Orozco said.

If convicted of threatening to assault or murder the judges, Turner faces up to 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.


This is it...this is the "I told you so" that I have been waiting for. This is the icing on the cake.

In 2005, Judge Joan Lefkow entered her Chicago home to find her husband and elderly mother had been assassinated. The next day, racist shock-jock, Hal Turner, posted a picture of Judge Lefkow with the bold caption, "GOTCHA." Over the last four years, Turner has repeatedly told others on his website that the Judge's family was killed because of him:

"Do you know why those law enforcement agencies watch me so closely? Because they KNOW I hurt people; they just can;t prove it.

"THey KNOW homes and businesses have been fire bombed becuase of me;they just can;t prove it.

"They KNOW a federal judges family was killed in Chicago because of me;they just can't prove it." (Hal Turner, January, 2007)

Hal Turner fell silent in a Conneticut courtroom a couple of days ago as he stood before a judge on charges of inciting violence. His website fell silent today as he was arrested yesterday by the FBI.

It took four years of putting up with Hal Turner's threats and calls for violence. Four very long years - but now, maybe we can say:



  1. More charges are coming Nikki including firearm charges for having illegal cop-killer bullets.

    We called it years ago Nikki, the government was just building up a case slowly but surely. We think they were ignoring Bill White and Hal Turner, but they were just building up so much evidence on the case.

    No doubt when they run the forensics on his computers, they might have more charges coming.

    There are conflicting reports on bail. One says he got no bail and ordered transferred to Illinois, another site is reporting it's 200k which his mother is going to post for him via her house with all sorts of restrictions.

    And he should be very lucky they haven't arrested his wife, for she was behind this all along and knew at all times what Harold was doing.

    But regardless, this is the end of Hal Turner.

  2. Hollow point bullets must only be illegal in New Jersey because you can get them at gas stations here. No, they aren't cop-killer bullets either. Hollow-points are less likely to go through an armored vest than FMJ. They do a lot of tissue damge to unarmored targets.

    I totally agree that you've seen the last of the Hal Turner we know. Nobody is garuanteed a win in this poker game.

  3. Don't get excited. Hal is an amazing liar and flip flopper. I won't be surprised if only got a year in the slammer. However- his rep my never recover and the eyes of the world will be on him at this point and for good reason.

    On another note GREAT pic of him with the 'Gotcha' over his head. I might be a race traitor but at least I don't look that fucking stupid.

  4. Well, they did have a deal for Hal to be released on $200,000 bail but the judge mucked it, saying Hal is a danger to the community.

    I see someone is continuing to update Hal's blog which just harms little Harold even more.

    But I like I said with Bill White, even if the charges don't stick, the fact it will cost Hal's mom a boatload of money is priceless.

    I clue them in, if they execute a search warrant at his mother's house, they will get more on Turner. But it's up to them to figure that out.

  5. You haven't seen all the punishment that is going to be dished out. It won't be long until Michael Blevins and his criminal co-conspirator Matthew Ramsey is locked up in jail. Did I not tell you a scourge was coming? The wicked will continue to be punished.

    For I verily, absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed, . . .
    Topic: Absence
    Source: I Corinthians (ch. V, v. 3)

  6. Teito SmithersJune 25, 2009 5:46 PM

    "God is justice" is reall Michael Burks the religious fanatic who speaks the most perverted crap. You will join Hal Turner in a cell soon.

  7. Another development: WANE Channel 15 reports that ATF has raided the Warsaw, Indiana home of Tom Metzger. Metzger has not been arrested, and there are no reports on what the Feds were looking for or found. The pretext apparently was the fact that Metzger had links to Von Brunn's writings on his website.

  8. AA,

    Turner deserved what he got and was a total fool. Threatening people is never free speech.

    Metzger on the other hand didn't go as far as Turner in recent years, and I hope this isn't a witchhunt against Metzger. As I am against white supremacy, I am against witchhunts and gross violations of the 1st amendment.

    We'll see about Metzger.

  9. Great Coverage Nikki !

    I see that Tom Metzger's house was raided today by the ATF hmmmmmm you think maybe Hal is talking ?

  10. This might be why they issued a search warrant against Metzger.


    Federal authorities conducting raids in at least three states have arrested twin brothers with ties to white supremacist groups Thursday in connection with a mail bomb that injured three employees of the Scottsdale Office of Diversity and Dialogue in 2004.


    “The object of the conspiracy was to promote racial discord on behalf of the ‘White Aryan Resistance’ (WAR) by damaging and destroying buildings, facilities and real property of both government and businesses whose activities defendants believed conflicted with their goals,” the indictment states.

    Also on Tuesday, authorities served a search warrant on the home of Tom Metzger, founder of WAR, in Warsaw, Ind.


    No doubt one of those arrested has rolled on Metzger.

  11. Unknown Fucktard and Schwartz are the same guy. His real name is Eric Liberman and he works as a profiled for the SPLC. He ratted on Hal.

  12. In other news:

    The king of the pedophiles died of a massive heart attack today.

    May he rot in Hell.

  13. Looks like Hal is rolling on anyone he can. This thing with Metzger isn't the end. Bet on it.

  14. Appears Jackson is getting more coverage than the assassination and funeral of JFK.

    This society of ours is so fucking sick.

  15. Michael Jackson was great. It is sad about his sexual tastes.

  16. Jackson was a fucking pedophile.

  17. "Schwartz"....u fckn MOUTH!

    itz time you were "locked up" in a tankful of turd-skins...seein' as how you co-produce kiddie-porn snuff flix with Nikki fck 'Tard nutz there, eh?!?

    well........GOLLLyyyy!.....lock a white bloke up jes' for speaking his mind, eh?!?...while letting multidinous masses of licorice all-sortz of psychopathic niggz & baby-butchering kikez run AMOK!

    that's exactly WTF ultra-violent white revolution IS THE ONLY SOLUTION!

    we're gunna take youse fckrs DOWN!

    "the age oi the kike is over"!


  18. *special note to WNs*.....ZOG has got NO RIGHT WHAT-so-ever to invade private property!


    because there are only TWO TYPES of law that are valid..."common law" & "admiralty law"....all other "laws" (gun laws, tax laws, road laws, 'hate-speech' laws, by-laws &c....usually termed "statute laws") are fckn BULL-shite.... more here!

    when ZOG enters yr private property un-invited, they are deliberately violating common law (which, along with offences like murder, man-slaughter, assault & theft, also includes trespass!)...they are trespassing upon both yr property & yr person....if you have "warning notices" posted & give sufficient verbal warning and such warnings are deliberately ignored, then, you are legally entitled to GUN THEM DOWN!..."pull a Poplawski" on their mangy ZOG arses!

    the more white people do this, the colder will ZOG's feet become!

    Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn said this years ago (it's also in "The Gulag Archipelago!).....if the White Russians had to have "hoed into" the kike KGB-thugz, that willy-nilly "arrested" people, with axes, knives & machettes, they would have soon "dropped off" it will be with "the Jew-TF" & "the Jew-BI"....such "dis-couragements" will soon see whole slews & shifts of these fckn ZOG creeps "calling in sick" to avoid the "warm reception" they just might experience on their next illegal & immoral harrassment of law-abiding white people!

    WAY to GO!


  19. Michael Burks is a pedophile just like Michael Jackson!

  20. If Burks gets Ramsey locked up he is okay by me.

  21. “Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear.”--Harry Truman

  22. Michael Jackson lives forever!
    As A lifelong member of NAMBLA, I am witnessed to the magic between a man and his boy.

  23. Looks like an anti is running Turner's site now, for posting a phone call from Hal in mp3 on his own website, knowing the judge in the case is going to use it against him.

    mp3 link to Hal turner crying in tears from the jail

    This is as stupid as you get.

  24. There is a difference between 'They Should Die' and 'I'll Kill You'. One term is protected and the other one is not. I'll give that fascist Nikki three guesses as to which term is protected under the 1st Amendment.

    Anyway here is a description of the "crime" that Hal Turner, committed:

    "Let me be the first to say this plainly: These judges deserve to be killed," Mr. Turner wrote in a blog entry on June 2. "Their blood will replenish the tree of liberty. A small price to pay to assure freedom for millions."

    He said the three judges, William J. Bauer, Frank H. Easterbrook and Richard A. Posner, should be made "an example" of in order to send a message to the rest of the federal judiciary: "Obey the Constitution or die."

    Mr. Turner also posted the judges' photographs, phone numbers, work addresses and courtroom numbers.

    There is no indication that Mr. Turner or anyone else acted on his warnings. Nonetheless, the Federal Bureau of Investigation said in an affidavit that it believed his comments constituted "a threat to assault or murder a United States judge."

    This does not seem like a "true threat," one kind of speech the Supreme Court has said can be punished without violating the First Amendment. Turner did not actually threaten to commit violence; he simply argued that violence would be justified. What he said seems closer to incitement, except that in this case there is no threat of "imminent lawless action," one of the requirements imposed by the Court. Unless I'm missing something, what Turner said ought to be protected speech.

    What do you think? Does the posting of photographs and information about the judges make a crucial difference?

    As The New York Times notes, Turner's arrest is reminiscent of the "Nuremberg Files" case,(ask Daryl Lamont Jenkins about this since it inspired him to do his rogues gallery) in which the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit upheld a $109 million civil judgment against the operators of website that arguably encouraged violence against abortion providers. In 1999 I argued that the website should be protected by the First Amendment, the position that a 9th Circuit panel endorsed before it was overturned by the full court.

  25. Every moment that Hal is forced to stay in prison will make him richer and richer. Once he is acquitted from all the charges (except perhaps the firearm charges) MASSIVE lawsuits will be filed and Hal will be a rich man.

    The feds fucked with the wrong man

  26. You really don't know shit about how the justice system works, do you? Even if Hal does manage to beat the charges (and he won't) he will have had to spend a butt load of money, spend at least a year in jail and he can sue them all he wants but he will never collect a dime.

  27. Idea on how Hal could possibly raise a lot of money for bail, but is it legal?

    Basically he says "Listen, I know I'm going acquitted of all the charges. After that, I will sue the feds for millions for violating my rights. If you donate $100 to get me out on bail I'll pay you $200 if I'm successfull with my lawsuit against them"

  28. Hal speaks and... cries.

  29. I am glad that the White Nationalists are finally facing the music.

  30. It's going to be a factual issue about what he stated in the blog and whether or not anyone was actually going to act on that information.

    That's it in a nutshell. He is going to walk.

  31. Pocahontas ProudJuly 04, 2009 9:25 PM

    Obongo is changing our freedoms as we know them. There is no way that he win again in 2012. Even most of the blacks are sorry they voted for him. He is tearing down our country financially and killing our constitution and Bill of Rights. They had no right to put Mr Turner in jail.


All comments must remain civil. No threats, racist epithets, or personal attacks will be tolerated. Rational debate, discourse, and even disagreement are all acceptable as long as they remain on point and within the realm of civility.