Friday, August 21, 2009

When Are White People Going To Get Over It?


After all of the racist and histrionic offal that has been offered up in the comment section of this blog and elsewhere across the internet, I think Andrew Manis' question is not only pertinent, but deserves serious consideration.

Andrew M. Manis is Associate Professor of History at Macon State College in Georgia and a graduate of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. His book, A Fire You Can’t Put Out: The Civil Rights Life of Birmingham’s Rev. Fred Shuttlesworth, won several prizes including the 2000 Lillian Smith Book Award. His most recent book is Macon Black and White: An Unutterable Separation in the American Century, for which he won the 2005 Georgia Author of the Year Award for history. He currently serves on the steering committee of Macon’s Center for Racial Understanding.

TO ORIGINAL ARTICLE

For much of the last 40 years, ever since America “fixed” its race problem in the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, we white people have been impatient with African Americans who continued to blame race for their difficulties. Often we have heard whites ask, “When are African Americans finally going to get over it? Now I want to ask “When are we White Americans going to get over our ridiculous obsession with skin color?

Recent reports that “Election Spurs ‘Hundreds’ of Race Threats, Crimes” should frighten and infuriate every one of us. Having grown up in “Bombingham,” Alabama in the 1960s, I remember overhearing an avalanche of comments about what many white classmates and their parents wanted to do to John and Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luther King. Eventually, as you may recall, in all three cases, someone decided to do more than “talk the talk.” Since our recent presidential election, to our eternal shame we are once again hearing the same reprehensible talk I remember from my boyhood.

We white people have controlled political life in the disunited colonies and United States for some 400 years on this continent. Conservative whites have been in power 28 of the last 40 years. Even during the eight Clinton years, conservatives in Congress blocked most of his agenda and pulled him to the right. Yet never in that period did I read any headlines suggesting that anyone was calling for the assassinations of presidents Nixon, Ford, Reagan, or either of the Bushes. Criticize them, yes. Call for their impeachment, perhaps. But there were no bounties on their heads. And even when someone did try to kill Ronald Reagan, the perpetrator was non-political mental case who wanted merely to impress Jody Foster.

But elect a liberal who happens to be black and we’re back in the sixties again. At this point in our history, we should be proud that we’ve proven what conservatives are always saying—that in America anything is possible, EVEN electing a black man as president. But instead we now hear that schoolchildren from Maine to California are talking about wanting to “assassinate Obama.”

Fighting the urge to throw up, I can only ask, “How long?” How long before we white people realize we can’t make our nation, much less the whole world, look like us? How long until we white people can—once and for all—get over this hell-conceived preoccupation with skin color? How long until we white people get over the demonic conviction that white skin makes us superior? How long before we white people get over our bitter resentments about being demoted to the status of equality with non-whites? How long before we get over our expectations that we should be at the head of the line merely because of our white skin? How long until we white people end our silence and call out our peers when they share the latest racist jokes in the privacy of our white-only conversations?

I believe in free speech, but how long until we white people start making racist loudmouths as socially uncomfortable as we do flag burners? How long until we white people will stop insisting that blacks exercise personal responsibility, build strong families, educate themselves enough to edit the Harvard Law Review, and work hard enough to become President of the United States, only to threaten to assassinate them when they do? How long before we start “living out the true meaning” of our creeds, both civil and religious, that all men and women are created equal and that “red and yellow, black and white” all are precious in God’s sight?

Until this past November 4, I didn’t believe this country would ever elect an African American to the presidency. I still don’t believe I’ll live long enough to see us white people get over our racism problem. But here’s my three-point plan during the Obama administration: First, every day that Barack Obama lives in the White House that Black Slaves Built I’m going to pray that God (and the Secret Service) will protect him and his family from harm. Second, I’m going to report to the FBI anyone I overhear saying, in seriousness or in jest, anything of a threatening nature about President Obama. Third, I’m going to pray to live long enough to see America surprise the world once again, when white people can sing of our damnable color prejudice, “We HAVE overcome.”

Andrew Manis

106 comments:

  1. Nikki, the far right conservatives have long mastered the "whine" when things are not going their way. This is precisely why I voted for President Obama. I started out a Hilary fan. Her husband made them while for eight long years. They tried everything to discredit him but could do nothing to ultimately hurt his popularity with the American people.

    But then Obama came along and well I got a crush on Obama. I realized how much these idiots would hate him and how much they would whine. So I put down my Kerry sign! Black and Sexy YOUR SO FINE!

    Their whining is music to my ears. Every time "Hooch" writes his stinky cry baby bullshit I laugh my ass off. I laugh my ass off when I hear that >70 IQ Pedo Holsten knock him and I will continue to laugh when Obama is reelected for his second term. OH YES WE CAN!

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  2. America elected a black man as President and you guys do nothing but bitch and moan about so-called pervasive racism in America.

    Get the fuck over it already.

    People under 25 don't even think about race, but over-the-hill hippies like you find here so race in damn near everything they talk about.

    Again, get the fuck over it.

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  3. When Nikki talks about the comments section it would be nice to know exactly what has her ticked off.

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  4. get real news here:

    infowars.com

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  5. Gov. Patterson says he can't get re-elected because of his race.

    I am beginning to see a pattern here. Will President Obama blame his failures on "racism"? You know he will.

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  6. Gov. David Paterson blames calls for him to step aside on race
    By Kenneth Lovett
    Daily News Albany Bureau Chief

    Friday, August 21st 2009, 4:43 PM

    New York Governor David Paterson

    Paterson plays race card

    ALBANY - Gov. Paterson said Friday he knows the reason behind the "crescendo" of calls for him not to seek re-election next year: it's because he's black.

    Speaking on a morning radio show hosted by Daily News columnist Errol Louis, an angry Paterson blamed the white-dominated media for pushing him to step aside next year.

    "The whole idea is to get me not to run in the primary," he said. Paterson complained there are not enough "black" media outlets to counteract the push.

    And he suggested that Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, the country's only other African-American governor, also is under fire because of his race.

    "We're not in the post-racial period," Paterson said.

    "The reality is the next victim on the list, and you can see it coming, is President Barack Obama, who did nothing more than trying to reform a health care system." (ANONYMOUS ROLLS EYES)

    "My feeling is it's being orchestrated, it's a game, and people who pay attention know that," he said.

    "We have a media that doesn't report the news. We have a media that wants to make the news."

    Paterson insisted he's made tough decisions to deal with the state's budget ballooning budget deficits while at the same time increasing welfare benefits and softening the harsh Rockefeller drug laws.

    He noted the state, despite its fiscal crisis, has not had to write IOUs or have its bond ratings drastically reduced like California and is not in as bad straits as Pennsylvania, Michigan and Massachusetts.

    Paterson has been heavily criticized by key Democrat allies in the Legislature, labor community and elsewhere in recent months.

    "What did I do that I should not run for reelection?" he asked.

    Despite enjoying high approval ratings in his first several months in office last year, his popularity plummeted to as low as 18% after a series of mishaps in the late spring.

    The latest polls show about 30% approving of the job Paterson is doing.

    He also seemed to take a shot at Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, a possible primary competitor, Polls show Cuomo would trounce the governor in a match-up.

    "If I run in the primary, the same people who are sitting in beach chairs while I'm in the oceans with the sharks will have to come in to the ocean - and they will be eaten alive."

    He said there would be no shame in running for a full term and losing. "It will be my highest honor to have served as governor of this state, to make the tough decisions," he said.

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  7. Nikki,

    I read the article, and I REALLY tried to see it from your perspective (of your preamble to the article). I really really really did.

    I am sorry, I just have to ask you the same question Barney Frank did of those looney Larouch people holding up Obama/Hitler signs--"What planet are you living on?"

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  8. ENOUGH OF THE I AM BLACK ****, ITS THE WHITE MANS FAULT..I AM SO SICK OF THAT ALWAYS BEING USED.....liberal ****....Maybe the tax payers are sick of paying for every lazy *** .

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  9. When you have a Governor or any person in power doulbts himself or uses his/her gender or race as an excuse for their failure then they shouldn't stay in office.

    The American people are tired of incompentent crooks that blame their constituents, or in the case of Obama the American people on their own damn failures.

    It really must be nice to blame all your fucking failures on someone else...perhaps the racist were right when they say this is the "n-word attitude towards responsibility".

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  10. This is the essence of being black in America.

    "Black Story,"

    Being Black means never having to say you are sorry...

    Or in the case of the Obama owning up to your failures.

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  11. The author of this book or article has it all wrong. It appears blacks are the ones that are obssessed with race.

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  12. Niggers beg white people for votes

    * They get votes

    * They get elected

    * Said nigger politician "screws the pooch

    * Incompetent nigger politician blames whitey for failures

    * Said politician gets angry at constituents because they want incompetent boob out of the way

    * More accusations of racism leveled against same people that put him in office to begin with

    That about sums it up in a nutshell.

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  13. Yea, that's the essense of Nigger politicians and politics my friend.

    You hit it dead on!

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  14. Who are the fucking racist again? If it wasn't for the majority of whites voting for him he wouldn't have been elected...keep that in mind you little scumbags.

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  15. Obongo has put this country in more debt than any other president, and the Kenyan born Nigger is not qualified for the office. He cannot and will not win a second term.

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  16. This is so ridiculous it really doesn’t even deserve comment. Tell me one productive thing Obama has done. Wow, silence. I think that’s why his approval rating is so low. This “blame the racists” game will only serve to lower his approval ratings further.

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  17. oh yeah Mr. Manis, racism, thats got to be it. oh my God, why didn’t I think of that? It has to be that. It can only be that.

    Thank you again Manis, and President Obama for making us see ourselves as the stupid, hateful, racist creatures we all are.

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  18. Ping Nikki:

    Can you name ONE Republican black who whines bout racism? Excuses are for losers.

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  19. I don’t live in New York so I can’t vote for its Governor. I must say as one who follows events in New York State very closely that since his elevation to the office Governor Patterson has done nothing to show even a modicum of competence.

    It appears his “reign of error” just may be outdone by the even more incompetant guy occupying the White House!

    Something tells me Obama will blame his big FAIL on racism as well.

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  20. Apparently anybody who criticizes this doofus must belong to the KKK. Sure it’s about race–the race to the bottom. Who is the worst President among the 44? Obama is a strong, strong contender.

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  21. What evidence is there for the racism claim? Moreover whether true or not, the racism claim will only alienate more people.

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  22. Look here, Mannis:

    Bluster all you want, but the cry of black Americans of “racism!” for every matter on which they are opposed leads to more racial animosity than anything else.

    It goes from the home to classroom to the street to college to the workplace to the governor’s mansion to the White House--nothing but damn excuses!

    Man up! Nobody follows or trusts a complainer. Why do you think O'bummer is dropping in the polls?

    And what’s more, you don't have to be an old prophet to predict the inevitable white backlash from decades of brow-beating, legal discrimination (the Orwellian “Affirmative Action”), and willful ignorance of black crime (Knoxville being the latest example) against whites. It won't be surprising if it rises in proportion to the level of hysteria that has accompanied black politics for the last 45 years.

    Call the lightning, reap the whirlwind. It won’t be pretty, and that is deeply heartbreaking.

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  23. Oh good grief! Looks like I really struck a nerve here, huh?

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  24. Wait...wait wait...did someone just ask if white people would get over something? Slavery. The Holocaust. WW2.

    What if EVERYBODY (equality) had to "GET OVER IT"? Hmmm? How about Communism? How about social Marxism here in the USA? How about black crime? How about Jewish wars? How about the coming depression? Hahaha! We'll "get over it" alright!

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  25. What's nice is that whites all over are having nerves struck. Nice. Regardless of the outcome, it's better that they stand up now than remain slaves.

    Whites are finally starting to notice that the anti-racist movement is anti-white. NOTHING we've done has been worthy of the abolishment of our race. EVERYTHING we've done is worth fighting for. I've always said, "it's not a question of right or wrong, it's exist or not." I was wrong. It's good against evil. The worst kind of evil.

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  26. Yes Nikki, you have the idiots out in force but you might notice it is one idiot that is doing most of the posting. He used to call himself Hooch but since everyone knows who is he is, he went further under cover. What a little bitch. LOL.

    Keep up the good work Nikki. Anything that keeps these idiots whining makes me laugh. LOL. ROFL!

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  27. I can name a GOP conservative black that whines about race. J.C. Watts. So what? The GOP whines about everything, that is what they do.

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  28. WE ARE WINNING, CONSERVATIVES SUCK DICK AND SHIT. MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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  29. Lot's of good posts here. Nice to read something intelligent for a change.

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  30. Watts is intelligent...he doesn't blame his failures on the color of his skin or "whitey".

    Try again.

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  31. "But instead we now hear that schoolchildren from Maine to California are talking about wanting to 'assassinate Obama.'"

    Really? School children from coast to coast are talking about wanting to assassinate Obama? Give me a fucking break...love how these assholes say things like this without any sort of reference or proof.

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  32. This “blame the racists” game is getting old.

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  33. This should read, when are black people going to get over it.

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  34. Nikki, do not forget that Germany in 1933was the most educated, the most cultured country in Europe. It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals, laboratories, and universities. And yet, in less than six years (a shorter time span than just two terms of the U. S. presidency) it was rounding up its own citizens, killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against parents, and neighbors against neighbors.. All with the best of intentions, of course. The road to Hell is paved with them.

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  35. Whine bitch whine.

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  36. You know, if Holsten had brain one in his fat little pedo head he support health care reform. Welfare leech that he is, he needs it more than anyone.

    I'd be all for a death panel option if Holsten and his sexual predatory offspring would get the first gas.

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  37. Boa Wannabee or whoever the Fuck you are; you latest request for you to suck my Dick is still denied. So Fuck off and shut the Fuck up and do it now!!!

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  38. I thought about something. I'm a known "Nazi" in America. All I'd have to do is come out and say I support Obama's healthcare plan because it's a model of National Socialism applied. It isn't but it's close in some ways. I'm considering an approach like that.

    Frankly, heathcare isn't the issue that has people in the streets. It's the fact that America is two-faced as hell. They say "oh, we just don't want hate in our area...they are not welcome..." then they say the exact same thing once someone puts it in a nicer way.

    So why weren't all these people white nationalists before? First, someone on a screen somewhere told them they'd be evil, ignorent or foolish if they did. Second, Amercia, for the large part, have had non-whites as entertainment, a drug hookup, housekeepers and "friends." We've all covered for the affirmative action negro at work and later defending his sub-zero performance. We've all smiled at nodded at the Wilson's kid and her non-white boyfriend (glad as hell it didn't happen to us...yet). So now America gets to see a black person not only up close but in charge. It's not the cities and all places Southern anymore.

    Ha! America was oh so pleased with their new teddy-bear until they realized that it was an actual bear. Yes, I'm sure I'll be one of the ones to be broke, placed in a camp and forgotten about but let me tell you...I'll be laughing the whole way there. Heck, if America lives through this, maybe we can appoint a horse to the senate. Don't laugh. It's happened in failing empires before.

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  39. Why won't this idiot (see Anonymous dumbass above) stop whining! Ha something is going right in America!

    Death panel for Holswine? Oh shit I am really for Obama care now. Can it kill that cry baby loser Blevins as well? OH YES WE CAN MOTHER FUCKER!

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  40. Anon...if this "health" care bill is passed I think it will spell the death of the nation...this plan has nothing to do with insuring the uninsured...it has to do with gathering power unto the government...it is the keystone to this new radical government they are putting in place of our Republic.

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  41. Attn: To the motherfucker who is having nightmares about 4 yrs with Obongo; your request to suck my Dick is hereby denied. You stupid assed Nigger Loving Son of a Nigger Fucking Whore Bitch

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  42. Jeez, just read drudge and it looks like this administration is trying to hype the alleged flu pandemic.

    Might be just a tool for Obama to force through health care?

    It's just so much BS. In a normal flu season 35 thousand Americans die...they claim 90 thousand will...

    I am sorry but even if true I don't think this is something to be overly worried about.

    BTW

    Don't take this frigin' flu shot...25 people have died from swelling of the brain from the vacine in the U.S. already.

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  44. If Obama is so fucking great how come he is cutting the old folks Social Security? Another historical first, btw.

    Jesus Christ, could you imagine the outcry if Bush or some other Republican had done this. lol

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  45. Nigger Dick Sucker, Nikki will delete that. She doesn't allow posts like that by someone impersonating a 4 year old.

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  46. Obama is not cutting SS your fucking retard. Bush did enough, he was the worst president in history. Nuff said about that asshole.

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  47. It looks like they are doing away with COLA wich if we were still under Bush would definitely be called a "cut".

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9A8V4080&show_article=1

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  48. "Obama is not cutting SS your fucking retard. Bush did enough, he was the worst president in history. Nuff said about that asshole."

    Uh, I hate to break this to you, but yes they are:Obama administration to cut Social Security benefits

    Like the other Anon. said this is a historical first.

    No wonder this guys approval ratings are going down faster than a blonde on nigger dick.

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  49. More right winged bullshit. SS is not being cut.

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  50. Sort of hard to argue with a guy that links his sources anonymouse. lol

    I like that new video of Obama...that trailer looks frigin' awesome. Thx for posting it anon.

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  51. Someone who links with right winged bullshit. Yeah and there are death panels as well. Kill granny. Fucking right winged idiots, kind of hard to argue you aren't a retard. LOL. Epic win.

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  52. BTW- the story on the SS cuts was in the AP and Bloomberg wires.

    Not just rightwing websites.

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  53. No. Post proof or shut the fuck up. Oh wait, you cunt.

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  54. Hell, even MSLSD is reporting on this:

    Link Here

    I swear Obama is worse than even fucking Jimmy Carter (and that is really saying something--yes, I am old enough to remember those horrible days).

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  55. "Someone who links with right winged bullshit. Yeah and there are death panels as well. Kill granny. Fucking right winged idiots, kind of hard to argue you aren't a retard. LOL. Epic win."

    O'tard

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  56. Pretty much sums it up in a nutshell:

    John Stossel's Take
    Commentary from Co-Anchor of ABC News' "20/20"

    Every Critic a Racist
    08/24/2009 10:23 PM

    During the presidential campaign, Barack Obama’s supporters promised that his election would allow America to “transcend race." Among the headlines:

    The Boston Globe: "Obama shows an ability to transcend race”

    The Atlanta Journal-Constitution: “Obama's success suggests we can transcend race”

    But of course that hasn’t happened. Jonah Goldberg writes:

    It was Obama’s supporters who hinted, teased, promised, and prophesied that Obama would help America “transcend race.” But now, it is they who shrink from their own promised land…

    From Day 1, Obama’s supporters have tirelessly cultivated the idea that anything inconvenient for the first black president just might be terribly, terribly racist.

    Goldberg has plenty of examples:

    For instance, actress Janeane Garofalo summed up the tea parties thusly: “This is about hating a black man in the White House. This is racism straight up.”

    In an ABC News story about how racist white militias are somehow connected to town-hall protests, Mark Potok of the dismayingly left-wing Southern Poverty Law Center insists Obama has “triggered fears among fairly large numbers of white people in this country that they are somehow losing their country.”

    Come on. Every president eventually is criticized by the media – even one as “transcendent” as Obama. The President’s supporters should engage his critics with facts, not charges of racism.

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  57. whine bitch whine

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  58. Am I hateful if I ask:

    - Who is "surrounding" the President in the White House?

    - Do any of the President's advisers have criminal records?

    - Are the President's advisers working to better the country or their own ideals?

    - Who are the anti-capitalists in Washington?

    - What roles do they have in crafting bills?

    - What was "STORM"? What happened to the founders, where are they now?

    - What qualifications must one have to be a Presidential adviser?

    - What is the difference between a community organizer and a community activist?

    - Do the czars have power?

    - Should a communist have the ear of the President of the United States?

    - What role did the Apollo Alliance play in crafting bills?

    - Does the President know the co-founder of the Weather Underground is a board member of the Apollo Alliance?

    - How many people in the administration are connected to the movement for a democratic society?

    - What role does George Soros play... CONSTITUTIONALLY?

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    - Our unfunded liability for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid is close to $100 trillion. Is there any way to pay for these programs without bankrupting America?

    - We are in so much debt, why spend more borrowed money on cap-and-trade and healthcare programs before we stop the flow of red-ink?

    - The stimulus package funneled billions of dollars to ACORN. How does giving billions of dollars to ACORN stimulate the economy?

    - If it was so important for congress to pass the stimulus bill before they even had time to read it why has only a fraction of the stimulus money been spent 6 months later?

    - Bush said he had to abandon free market principles in order to save them, how exactly does that work?

    - Why won’t members of Congress read the bills before they vote on them?

    - Why are citizens mocked and laughed at when they ask their congressman to read the bills before they vote on them?

    - Was the cash-for-clunkers program meant to save the earth or the economy? Did it accomplish either?

    - How did Van Jones, a self-proclaimed communist become a special advisor to the president?

    - Did President Obama know of Van Jones’ radical political beliefs when he named him special advisor?

    - The Apollo Alliance claimed credit for writing the stimulus bill—why was this group allowed to write any portion of this bill?

    - If politicians aren’t writing the bills and aren’t reading the bills, do they have any idea what these 1000 page plus bills actually impose on the American people?

    - If the ‘public option’ health care plan is so good why won’t politicians agree to have that as their plan?

    - If town hall meetings are intended for the politicians to learn what’s on our mind—why do they spend so much time talking instead of listening?

    - Politicians are refusing to attend town hall meetings complaining, without evidence, that they are scripted. Does that mean we shouldn’t come out and vote for you since every campaign stop, baby kiss and speech you give is scripted?

    - Why would you want to overwhelm the system?

    - Is using the economic crises to rush legislation through congress what Rahm Emanuel meant when he talked about "not letting a crises go to waste"?

    - What are the czars paid? What is the budget for their staffs/offices?

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  59. Hateful? Yeah not to mention stupid.

    You are much too stupid to understand, better for you if you just shut your mouth. LOL

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  60. Please tell me what your problem is with the Apollo Alliance. What is your main objection?

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  61. What do you know about the Apollo Project/Alliance, Nikki? Anything? Please share because I would like to know what the hubbub is about.

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  62. The Apollo Projest or is a coalition of labor, business, environmental, and community leaders...from my understanding it morphed or was/is an offshoot of the "Campaign from America Future" and the "Center for Wisconsin Strategy" as some have discovered the Apollo is a project of the "Tides Center".

    It appears there are a lot of various groups that change, but the names remain the same.

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  63. The Apollo Alliance mission statement sounds benign but the groups and individuals (the same ones) sprung from are a bit more radical.

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  64. Let's say we had a group called the Apollo Project and it was traced to a group called the National Socialist Movement or maybe even the National Alliance? Manned by the same group of people?

    You think people might have some questions for a President being advised by such people?

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  65. Reagan was advised by an Astrologer but oh yeah he fucked up a lot of shit too. Conservatives actually think that senile old bastard is a hero. Go figure.

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  66. I don't think the astrologer was made a "czar" or should I say commissar with governmental powers either, asshole.

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  67. Van Jones is a self avowed Communist.

    Google dat shit!

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  68. Today is a good day. We are finally rid of the fat slug Ted Kennedy. Finally, payback for Mary Jo.

    I could respect both JFK and RFK; both had character. Teddy, on the other hand, was nothing more than an obese lecher. Good riddance!

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  69. Ted did more for this nation than you, idiot. Why are right winged faggots such stupid cocksuckers? I like the idea in Inglourious Basterds, carve a fucking swastika in you bitches heads. I bet if someone started doing that it would take the fun out of being a shithead. The great thing about it? We know where these bastards live.

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  70. All the Fuck that fat ass Ted did was try to pass hate crime laws to protect the Fucked in the head Faggots.

    Fuck the Fat Bastard and Fuck you.

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  71. The Immigration Act of 1965 qualifies him the distinction of being the worst politician this nation has had in the last 50 years.

    Don't believe me? Google Dat Shit!

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  72. Funny you should mention the Immigration Act of 1965; read the lies that was spewed forth:

    "First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same.... Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset.... Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia.... In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think.... The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs."--Ted Kennedy

    These bastards lied then and they WILL FUCKING SAY ANYTHING NOW regarding this proposed health care legislation. Frankly, the people should make themselves heard, not just on this, BUT EVERY DAMN PIECE OF LEGISLATION they try to pass.

    These truly are some loathsome and sneaky bastards. They do not care about "the people".

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  73. "Ted did more for this nation than you, idiot."

    Oh, really? Just what in the Hell did this cowardly and drunken murderer do for this nation?

    Please share.

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  74. The Fat Ass tried to Fuck up our country by attempting to pass Ignorant Assed Hate Crime laws to protect Faggots and Faggotry.

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  75. What is funny is when that Fat assed child molesting Holsten calls someone else fat. Hey Holsten, you hit 350 yet?

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  76. Sorry to disappoint you once again you Nigger Dick Sucking Son of a Fucked up Bitch, but your Great Hero has still never molested anyone.

    Your Great Hero is up to 372 lbs but I still don't look as big as Fatass Faggot Loving Ted was. It was caused by some medicine called Avandia. There is a class action lawsuit against them since this medicine has hurt so many people. Your Great Hero may get a few bucks out of this.

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  77. What did Kennedy do? You really are that uninformed? Here let me help you (from Wikipedia):

    He became known as "The Lion of the Senate", through his long tenure and influence. More than 300 bills that Kennedy and his staff wrote were enacted into law. He was known for working with Republicans and finding compromises among Senators with disparate views. Kennedy played a major role in passing many laws that affect the lives of all Americans, including the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, the National Cancer Act of 1971, the Comprehensive Anti-Apartheid Act of 1986, the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990, the Ryan White AIDS Care Act in 1990, the Civil Rights Act of 1991, the Mental Health Parity Act in 1996 and 2008, the State Children's Health Insurance Program in 1997, the No Child Left Behind Act in 2002, and the Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act in 2009. In the 2000s, he led several unsuccessful immigration reform efforts. During decades in office, Kennedy's major legislative goal was enactment of universal health care, which he continued to work toward during the Obama administration.

    Hopefully his death will spurn Democrats to work harder to get health care passed. They will do it in his name. He had his faults but he was a good man. He was rich and didn't need to ever work yet dedicated his life to public service. He was a good man.

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  78. The Fat Bastard killed that woman in a drunken stupor back years ago and he tried to rub Faggotry in our faces by trying to enact the hate crime laws against good people who rightly spoke out against Faggots and Faggotry.

    Fuck him and Fuck you.

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  79. Just for the record I don't agree with everything the man did. The Chappaquiddick incident certainly cost him the presidency. I did not like the "no child left behind" legislation. But I recognize his accomplishments. I applaud him for his service to his country and fellow man. He was a lot more liberal than I will ever be but he did what he thought was right and tried to help his fellow man. Do not ask for whom the bell tolls.

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  80. Everyone be sure and call 1-877-591-2890 and ask for the collection department. If Holsten's fat child molesting ass ever does get any money we want our 10,000 cut.

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  81. So Avandia is responsible for you being a fat ass. Which drug is responsible for you and your son Chris molesting young girls, Holeswine??????????

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  82. Nigger Dick Sucker, you were told that nobody here has ever molested any kids. I don't know why Nikki allows this. She used to delete the false accusations against me and my family.

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  83. There are not false accusations Stevo. Your sorry assed son was arrested in a sting operation for attempting to pick up an underaged girls. Chris Holsten Arrest In a under handed deal he was allowed to plea down to a lesser charge and avoided being listed as a sex offender. You yourself was arrest several years ago understand similar circumstances for exposing himself to a minor, yet you were let off as well.

    Your whole family is a bunch of white trash thieves known for ripping off check cashing places and DircTV (care to explain their 10,000 judgement against you? Don't try to play innocent with us, Pedo. We know your true colors.

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  84. Holsten is a Jew who likes playing at being a white man. So fucking stupid he doesn't know he's trash. You have to pity him really. After all, he hates niggers so his heart is in the right place. Obviously he is a homosexual, homosexuality is all he talks about. Somebody should report him to child services, a sick little fuck like him should not be allowed to raise children.

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  85. So the fact this drunken asshole stayed in the Senate for almost 50 years qualifies him for respect?

    This man is not deserving of any respect IMHO.

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  86. So the fact this drunken asshole stayed in the Senate for almost 50 years qualifies him for respect?

    This man is not deserving of any respect IMHO.

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  87. Poster above spends his time trying to figure out if his mammy and pappy get divorced if they still be brother and sister. LOL. Cocksuckers like that should understand they are just too fucking to post. LOL.

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  88. Damn, if everything I read about Holestein is true why doesn't someone just kill his fat loser ass? Child molesters deserve death. Please give me his address, I'll make sure justice gets done.

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  89. Nigger Dick Sucker; the best thing you can do is mind your own business. The only ones who have ever accused me of this is real hardcore Nigger Lovers. It's been going on since 2002. Something would happened to me by now if this Bullshit was true. Since I straighten you out; any further false comments will me your Great Hero as well as those Idiots.

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  90. Nikki,

    Can you start banning ANYONE who says anything about anal sex, "nigger dick sucking", gay-rape (Jim Ramm) or all things pedo-related?

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  91. That would be fine. I don't post the Shit I post till they run their holes about me being a Pedo & etc.

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  92. Hey, listen up pedo Holestain. Tell Chris to stay out of drugs and shit, before its too late. He's been behaving really bad recently. Too bad if his probation officer finds out.

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  93. Schwartz, the real ChristianAugust 27, 2009 3:46 PM

    If not for Ted Kennedy, Steve Holsten doesn't collect Medicare or social security for himself today. Yup, Kennedy was the one who made it real easy for those with mental disabilities to collect it. And we know Steve's disability is mental.

    Funny how Holsten loves welfare for himself but hates it for others.

    And Holsten, you might see a 30 dollar coupon in the class action lawsuit. The only people who get any money on those are the lawyers.

    The interest is growing on that judgment by DirecTV. Tick, tock, tick, tock.

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  94. One thing we can all agree on, is our hate of Pedos like Holsten. He should be exterminated for calling himself a white man.

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  95. Mary Jo finally gets some justice.

    May Ted Kennedy rot in Hell for eternety.

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  96. You can post that over and over dumbass. NO one cares. Big Fucking Yawn.

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  97. Keep yelling and yawning like a Fucking Nigger Loving Son of a Fucking Bitch.

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  98. Better watch your mouth boy or someone might call child protective services on your ass. Molesting kids is against the law, even in that redneck town you live in, bitch.

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  99. Ah DickHead, that has been done twice, by one of my loyal subjects who uses me as their Great Hero who is a Nigger Loving Nigger Dick Suckers who admires my greatness. The local Family Service office would like to catch whoever did it. They caused them to waste a bunch of time on such foolishness about me.

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  100. You guys are fucking twisted. I do not agree with Steve on a lot of things but anyone who would take this disagreement into real life and report him to child protective services is an asshole.

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  101. UF, there are some sick Fuckers out there. Like I've said before; I didn't know what evil was till I started posting on Hal's message board about 8 years ago.

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  102. Well Steve I maybe owe you an apology, I was posting on the Nimbusters board when you got reported. I was threatening to report you to the protective services but that is all it was I never take Nimbusters out into the real world. As I have stated I do not agree with a lot of your views but would never do anything to hurt you or your family. I am sorry if I gave these idiots any ideas.

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  103. Lloyd Davies, The TimeLORDAugust 28, 2009 1:32 PM

    Uf you and the NewsGuy are the only decent Nimbusters left. The gun fags have ruined Nimbusters. Arty and Pete Jefferson are worse than Woger ever was been. Why cant stan see that and ban them?

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