Sunday, November 08, 2009

Some Predicted



Some predicted trouble from Fort Hood's Maj. Hasan
By ANGELA K. BROWN and RICHARD LARDNER, Associated Press Writers Angela K. Brown And Richard Lardner, Associated Press Writers
Sun Nov 8, 9:23 am ET

FORT HOOD, Texas – In retrospect, the signs of Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan's growing anger over the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan seem unmistakable. But even people who worried his increasingly strident views were clouding his ability to serve the U.S. military could not predict the murderous rampage of which he now stands accused.

In the months leading to Thursday's shooting spree that left 13 people dead and 29 others wounded, Hasan raised eyebrows with comments that the war on terror was "a war on Islam" and wrestled with what to tell fellow Muslim solders who had their doubts about fighting in Islamic countries.

"The system is not doing what it's supposed to do," said Dr. Val Finnell, who complained to administrators at a military university about what he considered Hasan's "anti-American" rants. "He at least should have been confronted about these beliefs, told to cease and desist, and to shape up or ship out."

Finnell studied with Hasan from 2007-2008 in the master's program in public health at the military's Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md., where Hasan persistently complained about perceived anti-Muslim sentiment in the military and injected his politics into courses where they had no place.

"In retrospect, I'm not surprised he did it," Finnell said of the shootings. "I had real questions about what his priorities were, what his beliefs were."

Hasan, who was shot by civilian police and taken into custody, was in intensive care but breathing on his own late Saturday at an Army hospital in San Antonio. Officials refused to say if he was talking to investigators.

At least 17 victims remained hospitalized with gunshot wounds, and nine were in intensive care late Saturday. On Sunday, numerous church services honoring the victims were planned both on the post and in neighboring Killeen.

Military criminal investigators continue to refer to Hasan as the only suspect in the shootings but won't say when charges would be filed. "We have not established a motive for the shootings at this time," said Army Criminal Investigative Command spokesman Chris Grey.

A government official speaking on condition of anonymity because the person was not authorized to discuss the case said an initial review of Hasan's computer use has found no evidence of links to terror groups, or anyone who might have helped plan or push him toward the shooting attack. The review of Hasan's computer is continuing and more evidence could emerge, the source said.

Hasan likely would face military justice rather than federal criminal charges if investigators determine the violence was the work of just one person.

Hasan's family described a man incapable of the attack, calling him a devoted doctor and devout Muslim who showed no signs that he might lash out.

"I've known my brother Nidal to be a peaceful, loving and compassionate person who has shown great interest in the medical field and in helping others," said his brother, Eyad Hasan, of Sterling, Va., in a statement. "He has never committed an act of violence and was always known to be a good, law-abiding citizen."

Still, in the days since authorities believe Hasan fired more than 100 rounds in a soldier processing center at Fort Hood in the worst mass shooting on a military facility in the U.S., a picture has emerged of a man who was forcefully opposed to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, was trying to elude his pending deployment to Afghanistan and had struggled professionally in his work as an Army psychiatrist.

"I told him, `There's something wrong with you,'" Osman Danquah, co-founder of the Islamic Community of Greater Killeen, told The Associated Press on Saturday. "I didn't get the feeling he was talking for himself, but something just didn't seem right."

Danquah assumed the military's chain of command knew about Hasan's doubts, which had been known for more than a year to classmates at the Maryland graduate military medical program. His fellow students complained to the faculty about Hasan's "anti-American propaganda," but said a fear of appearing discriminatory against a Muslim student kept officers from filing a formal complaint.

Others recalled a pleasant neighbor who forgave a fellow soldier charged with tearing up his "Allah is Love" bumper sticker. A superior officer at Darnall Army Medical Center at Fort Hood, Col. Kimberly Kesling, has said Hasan was quiet with a strong work ethic who provided excellent care for his patients.

Twice this summer, Danquah said, Hasan asked him what to tell soldiers who expressed misgivings about fighting fellow Muslims. The retired Army first sergeant and Gulf War veteran said he reminded Hasan that these soldiers had volunteered to fight, and that Muslims were fighting each other in Afghanistan, Pakistan and the Palestinian territories.

"But what if a person gets in and feels that it's just not right?" Danquah recalled Hasan asking him.

"I'd give him my response. It didn't seem settled, you know. It didn't seem to satisfy," he said. "It would be like a person playing the devil's advocate. ... I said, `Look. I'm not impressed by you.'"

Danquah said he was disturbed by Hasan's persistent questioning but never told anyone at the sprawling Army post about the talks, because Hasan never expressed anger toward the Army or indicated any plans for violence.

"If I had an inkling that he had this type of inclination or intentions, definitely I would have brought it to their attention," he said.

Hasan was promoted from captain to major in 2008, the same year he graduated from the master's program. Bernard Rostker, a military personnel expert at the Rand Corp., said a shortage of officers and psychiatrists meant Hasan's advancement was all but certain absent a serious blemish on his record, such as a DUI or a drug charge.

Hasan reportedly jumped up on a desk and shouted "Allahu akbar!" — Arabic for "God is great!" — at the start of Thursday's attack.

"Hopefully, they can put together the pieces and find out what in the world was in his mind and why he went crazy," Danquah said. "Aaaaah, it's sad. Those soldiers could have been my soldiers."


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  2. Having had military experience, I'm beginning to think the official account of this shooting is starting to smell. A military psychiatrist who didn't even like to go to the rifle range pulls out a couple of guns and kills 12, wounding 31 more? That would require a minimum of 43 shots, and the doc was no marksman. This means 100 or more shots had to have been fired.

    And this means we must keep our minds open to the possibility that there may have been MORE THAN ONE shooter. The possibility is explained at Infowars.

  3. Info wars is for conspiracy idiots which you obviously are one. You kind is warped to the core. No matter what happens you see conspiracy.

  4. And to top it off, the CIA had full knowledge that the Muslim was trying to contact Al-Qaeda

  5. Hoochie\Von is crying again. The CIA doesn't handle matters inside the US, Hoochie that would be the FBI. Lone Wolf killers are difficult to predict or stop. If this man would have been locked up before he started shooting some little pussy cry baby (like your constant whining about Bill White) would be crying about his confinement. Self can see no real solution to this conundrum, though self feels certain that Hoochie\Von will blame it on Obama (sooner or later, my bet is sooner) because that is what kind of mindless drone that Hoochie be.

  6. To Anonymous 5:48 - Perhaps the reason we see "conspiracy" is because government has lied about so many other things.

    -- They lied about the JFK assassination
    -- They lied about Ruby Ridge
    -- They lied about Waco
    -- They lied about OKC
    -- They lied about 9/11

    So why should I suddenly believe government now? I look to Father God for salvation, not Uncle Sam.

  7. Yeah Cold Bugger but you're a fucking idiot and a retarded one at that.

  8. -- They lied about the JFK assassination
    -- They lied about Ruby Ridge
    -- They lied about Waco
    -- They lied about OKC
    -- They lied about 9/11

    Ummm...he has a point.

  9. """Shit Pants said...The CIA doesn't handle matters inside the US, Hoochie that would be the FBI."""

    And there you go again opening your mouth when you don't know what you're talking about. Yes, It was the CIA as I said. NOT THE FBI> AlQaeda is not in the US dipshit!!!

    Here's a liberal source for you. Now will you believe it and come to the same realization that everyone here has... that you need to think before you speak?

    """Lone Wolf killers are difficult to predict or stop."""

    Agreed, but they are not difficult when you ALREADY KNOW ABOUT THEM!!!

    Now before when the CIA fucked up we used to blame it on BUSH. So are we going to blame this on Obama or can we still blame it on DUBYA??

    """If this man would have been locked up before he started shooting some little pussy cry baby (like your constant whining about Bill White) would be crying about his confinement."""

    I agree that there are many in the movememt that hate the Jew so much that they love the muslem as they have something in common. Personally I could give a shit about Jews but am very wary of Muslims.

    """self feels certain that Hoochie\Von will blame it on Obama (sooner or later, my bet is sooner)"""

    So you are saying we should still be blaming this on Dubya like we used to when the CIA fucks up. Ok, whatever you say shitpants.

    And enough with the anti government talk around here. They don't lie to you. LOL One must love thy government as everything they do is in your best interests. We are so lucky to have such a loving government. They even so graciously allow me to keep a small portion of my money I make each week. Sure they tax me again when I buy something with it, then they tax the business for taking that same money too. Then when they buy supplies with it they get taxed again and it is an endless circle.

    Then they come up with some great ideas of taxing me more so they can help out some lazy useless bag of shit that doesn't want to go to work because they learned like millions have, how to work the system.

    Buy their health care for them and those illegally in this country and be forced to buy my own 15K plan or face a quarter of a million dollar fine and 5 years in the clink. Fuck the people who work their asses off every day.

  10. Hey well excuse the fuck out of me but you don't actually work Von/Hooch. Is collecting welfare work? FOAD bitch.

  11. Where does Von live anyway? I didn't know he was from Roanoke Virginia where my IP address shows.

  12. Political correctness and "diversity" is destroying our nation--this case being a good example.

    They knew about this guy a long time ago...guess they were too busy chasing swastikas and WN in the ranks to be too concerned.

    No white "nazi" would have fired upon his own comrades wearing the same uniform, and I don't give a good goddamn what Nikki says.

  13. Bet you guys didn't know that the good Major was an advisor to the Obama transition team.

    Google that shit!

  14. Anonymous said...

    Bet you guys didn't know that the good Major was an advisor to the Obama transition team.

    Google that shit

    I'm surprised it took you so long. And...while you are googling that shit be sure and read it before you start making wild claims. Oh! And make sure you read it from a reputable source.


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