Now, we have all heard the joke about Pinnochio and Snow White where she begs him to "Lie, Pinnochio, Lie!" But, all kidding aside, no Snow White has to encourage Bill White to do so. He just does it - with great gusto!
After he hung up on Tony Willow last night, we were pretty sure she would tell us what she had on her mind - and this one catches Bill right square in the middle of yet another whopper!
Hey NSM! Aren't you embarrassed enough?
The Truth – Know It Bill
By Tony Willow
Yeah I know, yet another story about Bill White lying, but this one is too good to pass up. Especially since I “called” him on it.
This whole thing started when Bill White decided to send a letter to the Michigan State News reporter Ken Osborne correcting him in regards to this article found here:
THE ORIGINAL ARTICLE
In his letter Bill White stated the following:
April 10, 2006
Hello Mr. Osborne:
I read your article “Nazi rally prompts counter gathering”, based on our conversation today.
Elizabeth O’Brien of the Lansing Coalition Against Nazis was one of those arrested in Toledo for picking up horse feces and flinging them at a woman whose political views she disagreed with.
Given that I witnessed her doing this, and there are photos of her doing this on the internet, I would say it is a pertinent fact that should be mentioned along with future mentions of her arrest.
National Socialist Movement
Now the second I read this I literally laughed out loud. How in the world can Bill White expect to get away with this lie? He most surely DID NOT SEE THIS HAPPEN. But I decided to get it from the horse’s mouth so to speak. (No pun intended) So on Monday night I called his radio show NSM presents. After having my calls dropped left and right I finally got through. Here is a rough transcript of what took place. (I recorded it on my digital recorder and since I was typing during some of it a few words might be a bit off, good thing too cause there is a chance this will never be put up in the archives.)
Tony: It’s Tony from Texas
Bill: How are you doing Tony from Texas?
Tony: I’m sorry?
Bill: How are you doing?
Tony: I’m doing pretty good, um, I got a question for you about the Michigan State News.
Tony: The article you sent to…
Tony: …Mr. Osborn. Um, you put on there that you witnessed somebody throwing Horse feces at her?
Bill: Well yeah, as a fact they were doing it as I was speaking…
Tony: But on your thing you said you said you witnessed it.
Bill: Well yeah, I could see it across the, ah, across the little park in front of us.
Tony: Ok, so you actually saw her throwing it.
Bill: Oh yeah, I saw these guys throwing it. There were 5 or 6 of them and what they did is ah, Molly Nolan came out and she had this big banner that said ah, welcome, ah, NSM and KKK racist Toledo loves you. And there was this group and we could see them through some trees and bushes across this park but we could get a pretty good view of it and they started picking up horse feces and slinging them at Molly and a few other people who came to her defense so what happened was the police took photos of these guys and they forced Molly Nolan and other supporters out of the area and we were trying to figure out who was on who’s side we were, and we could see it. The fighting and the slinging and so forth it took us a second to realize they were attacking supporters in there but ah we saw this and what happened was about 15 to 20 minutes later the police photographed all the people involved waited for the situation to defuse and came into the crowd and arrested them. And they all said, well what did we do, we didn’t do anything. Well they didn’t do it right then they did it about 15 minutes before they were arrested. And this is really common, common to anti racist to make these bogus claims. Uh, these anti-racist will come out and this is…is this Tony Willow from Texas while I’m thinking about it?
Tony: Ah, Yes it is.
Bill: Yeah that’s what I thought, Hal we can cut her off the air and I’ll go back to the rest of our supporters.
It’s very common for these anti-racists they’ll go they’ll commit crimes and then the police will photograph them committing crimes and then they get arrested 15 minutes later there not committing a crime at that specific moment and then they say we were being non-violent why were we arrested? Well you were arrested because you broke the law 15 minutes ago it just happens they arrest you 15 minutes later. You know, there’s no ah, rule that says they have to arrest you at the moment you break the law they can arrest you a couple of minutes afterwards. And that’s the kind of fraud these anti-racists perpetrate but really, were wasting time with messing with Tony Willow. Ah Hal let’s take another caller. Caller, your probably going to be our last one I know were getting close on time here. Umm…
Hal: No, No other callers, no other callers Bill.
Bill: Oh I thought we had at least two other beeps there. Alright folks then with having Tony Willow on lets get into anti-racist news.
Damn! Bitch slap averted. But he once again proved us right. He lies. What’s really funny is the fact he let his mouth run before his brain before figuring out who I was and then having me cut off.
But alas no. Bill for all of his bark has no bite in him whatsoever. But what’s even more hilarious is the fact that earlier on in the show he played a tape of a phone call he made to Montana Human Rights Network Research Director Christine Kaufmann. Once she hung up on him he said he sent her “running in terror”. What can be said of him hanging up on me?
If he would have let me speak I would have said the following:
The truth is best served true Bill. There is no way you could have seen what had happened unless you’re suffering from early Alzheimer’s or something. On December 10, 2005 broadcast of the Vonbluven’s show titled “After Rally Report” (which can be found in their archives) you were told of the incident by Michael Blevins the host of the show. How can you now say you saw this happen?
Here is a transcript of that show:
Von: I don’t know if you heard this or not but an Aryan Nations was out somewhere she got pelted with horse manure that got…
Bill: Where did this happen in Toledo?
Bill: Where at in Toledo?
Von: Ah, I guess she was in the ah, in the ah, commie section. Or she got corralled there.
Bill: She had a big sign, there was a lot of our supporters tried to rally in the public area and the communist attacked them. Ah, I don’t know about horse manure.
Von: Well they have pictures, they have pictures of it Bill. Bill: Alright, I don’t know about it all. I’m telling you is this, there was a fight over there. There was a couple of people who came with a big sign that said ah, Nazis and KKK welcome to Toledo, racist Toledo supports you. It was huge and ah, the commies attacked them ah, in the public area. And this is why we wanted separate public areas for our supporters and for our detractors and the police didn’t accommodate it and they ended up with ah at least 5 arrests from what I can tell so far.
Now how in the world can Bill get out of this one? He can’t. A liar is a liar is a liar. Actually, he just broke one of his own rules. For folks who don’t know. Bill White decided to come up with “rules” for members of the National Socialist Movement regarding handling the media. In those rules he states:
a) Do not ever lie to the media. The media will catch you. This does not mean the media needs the whole truth. You can decline to mention things, and you can “spin” things, meaning, make things that one group is describing as negative sound positive. If you are caught making a mistake, you admit to the mistake immediately and correct it. If you do not know the answer, it’s ok to say that you don’t know but you will refer the question to someone else or that you will look it up and get back to the person.
So what kind of “spin” can Bill White dish out? None. This is exactly why I called the show and specifically asked him if he actually saw her throwing horse feces. This is just another lie that will never be corrected nor addressed by Bill White, per his track record AND against his own rules.
Note to Bill:
The mainstream media may not take the time to fully research things but we sure do and have no problem letting the media know about your lies, which of course is what we always do and will continue to do. Sorry if that makes you so upset that you have to hang up on me. Now who is the coward “running in terror”? Take a very long look in the mirror.