Not much can be said for the racist right but you have to admit that they attract some of the wackiest nutjobs on the planet. Now, it depends on who you talk to whether or not Bill White can be considered a "leader" in the movement. Most would tell you that he is a leader only in his own mind. The problem is, he won't go away. He is one of these people who just keeps reinventing himself to suit the climate.
With the much anticipated Kingston rally on the minds of many in the neo-Nazi "movement" tonight, one racist asked White what form of government he would install if he were made "ruler" of the United States. Flattered by such attention and the opportunity that it provided him to expound, White responded thusly:
Assuming a peaceful ascent to power, the initial changes in the government would be national socialist but moderate. My initial foci:
* Ban the practice of the Jewish religion; arrest leaders of the Jewish lobby; enact racial laws barring Jews from holding office, participating in the press, teaching at universities, practicing law, owning large portions of American banks and companies and otherwise interfering with the vital cultural tasks of the nation
* Ban anti-racist and communist organizations; criminalize the teaching of multi-culturalism or diversity
* Enact legislation for penal reform through labor.
* Deport the Hispanic population back to their countries of origin.
* Enact segregation; dissolve all inter-racial marriages; re-criminalize race-mixing; sterilize mulattos; enact incentives to repatriate American blacks in Africa.
* End the US war in Iraq; support white nationalist movements in Europe and the general European liberation countries; focus foreign intervention on restoring Southern Africa to white rule and to resettle the black population of that part of the continent.
* Reform the welfare state; eliminate subsidies and enact labor programs -- including compulsory labor programs -- for the unemployed; make the focus of welfare assisting the temporarily out of work rather than sustaining a class of the out of work.
* Strengthen the common police powers of the state while weakening the political policing powers, except in the case of Jews and their related subversives.
Maybe this is why the National Socialists, White Nationalists, Ku Klux Klan, etc...don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of ever coming to power in this country - and Bill White probably stands the slimmest chance of all.
Ostracized by the other leaders, as well as the rank and file, White has been taking a real browbeating over the last 24 hours as many believe that he is trying to steal their thunder in the upcoming Kingston rally. There has been bad blood between White and many in the movement for quite some time. Now, it seems that blood wants to be spilled. Earlier today, Will Williams, long time member of the neo-Nazi regime, offered anyone who would take him up on it, one-thousand dollars to "break Bill White's skull."
Nevermind that this probably wasn't the smartest thing for Williams to do publicly...because Williams doesn't really care. He is so intent on someone beating White to a pulp that he even says he will pay their expenses and defend them in court.
Gee...it must be real cool to get so much attention.
Here's hoping for a peaceful day tomorrow in Kingston, NY.
Aren't his plans wonderful? The country would be so much better.
ReplyDeleteNo, sir, his plans are not "wonderful," in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteI might use the following adjectives: "sociopathic," "genocidal," or disturbed."
But not "wonderful."
In my opinion, the country would be "so much better" if we got along with people who do not happen to look and act just like us.
I have been intrigued with the sexual imagery used by the racist right to communicate their message. Here are a few examples from the post of ajax:
ReplyDeleteThe white man "must be castrated..." and the white man "must be made impotent..."
One might make the case that many pro-white men have some real insecurity issues vis-a-vis their manhood.
Fear the white race.. there is no white race. No black race. We are Americans. Most of us. The rest of you just did not get hugged enough.
ReplyDeleteFirst off Will, you're welcome. I don't much care for phoney's, or frauds, regardless of their ideology. And, I am not finished with Mr. White yet.
ReplyDeleteAs to your question...I really don't know of such a group. For years the Council of Conservative Citizens tried to convince everyone that they were not a hate group - and look where they are today.
Most of my endeavors are directed toward the neo-Nazi's and white hate groups at this time. However, I do recognize that there are other groups out there who are as hateful and racist as the ones that I concentrate on.
In all honesty Will, I have met a lot of people who claim that they are not racist and don't hate anyone - they say they are "advocates" of white rights. And, in every single instance, they have eventually demonstrated a very deep-seeded hatred for others.
You are guaranteed the right to assemble - and by-and-large that right is upheld. You are guaranteed freedom of speech - and that is upheld. But, nowhere are you guaranteed that you won't draw opposition - as that is our right, as well.
While I don't agree with you on much...and I certainly oppose your ideology...I think that people like elmer a.k.a. Steve, Bill White, Scott Belk, Hal Turner, Adam Jacobs, Matt Hale, Jeff Schoep, etc. really discredit you even more than the hate you promote.
I think you are right, that there are no such groups, Will. And why is that? I don't have any concrete answers to that question - only perceptions. I think it is multi - fold and probably nothing you haven't heard before.
ReplyDeleteFirst, historically, those in the majority are generally those with the power. Whites have always been in the majority in the United States, hence have always been in power. Because of this, very few people in our society see whites as being threatened in any way.
Secondly, whites have historically been the oppressors of minorities in this country. Thus, the very idea of "advocating for white interests" seems to be absolutely ludicrous to many.
Thirdly, most of us (white people) do not feel threatened by blacks having the NAACP or other groups to represent them. Generally, we recognize that because of past injustices and the current socio-economic climate along with the remnants of the good old by system, groups such as these are needed to continue to protect the ethnic minorities who are present.
Fourth, the groups who have even briefly come to the forefront as a white advocacy group have been nothing more than groups who advocate segregation and racism.
Fifth, the very idea of "advocating for white interests" seems, to many, a ridiculous notion since whites are in the majority and currently already weild the power. Congress is predominantly white. State leaders are predominantly white. Many white people simply do not see the need for such a thing.
Of course, there are many other dynamics that come into play here but I think the basic sociological premise behind all of this is that there are so many things that seem so much more important to white America than worrying about whether or not "white rights" are being upheld when whites are incharge.
Personally Will, I think your argument about the "White Congressional Caucus," is just one of those hackneyed arguments that has been used by people on the racist right for years. I don't mean that in a disparaging way - only that such pinings for a "Miss White America" contest, or "White Entertainment Televison," etc., have been part of the racist repetoire for so long that it has become somewhat lackluster.
What would you hope to gain with a White Congressional Caucus when Congress is predominantly white already? In all seriousness, what would be the benefit?
I don't share your concern over what you term, "degredation of the gene pool," Will. Given the fact that we live in a world that could be blown to smitherenes as we sit here and debate; a world where human rights are being trampled and mangled as we speak; a world where women and children of all ages and races are being sold into white slavery at staggering numbers; a world where young children are dying at alarming rates from hunger and preventable diseases; a world where families are sleeping in abandonded cars and newborns are discarded like yesterday's newspapers; I just can't get very upset over what is happening to the white gene pool. And, I believe that is where most people are coming from.
As far as agreeing on a point - I agree with several white nationalists on many points. It's when the race card is played that it all seems to fall apart.
You said:
"I'm a racist. I have no guilt for this, no shame. My world view is as a race-thinker. I can judge everything, every issue, by how it impacts on my race, either positively or negatively. Some things are neutral by this standard, but race is factored into nearly all my thoughts and decisions. That attitude, that built-in survival mechanism -- racism -- used to be implicit in my people before the Jew got a "stranglehold" on our means of mass communication..."
And herein lies a major difference between us - and I believe between you and the majority. I consider myself a non-racist. And my world view is non-racist. I judge many things in accordance with how it affects the whole of humanity. For me, race doesn't even enter into the equation. With a person like you I find myself wondering why...why is race that important? In my mind, and in the minds of many Americans, we just can't understand how race, something so nebulous and out of one's control could drive an individual in such a manner that it permeates his every thought.
Additionally, the vast majority of people watch the news and go to movies, or camp out in front of the television for entertainment. They really don't sit around and try to determing how many people on a show are black or Jewish or homosexual. They could care less who controls the media or the industry. Most of us have a whole lot more on our minds. And when those on the racist right start ranting about Jews and blacks and Asians, etc...they just think you are all a little quirky.
I guess the bottom line in all of this is basically that we don't put the same value on race. I see it as a peripheral and of little consequence and you see it as all important. I can't understand that and you can't understand my viewpoint.
I think the issue of race and some of the programs that have been developed around race will eventually have to be revamped - not done away with - but retooled to fall more in line with need and economic status. And, I believe that is where our concentration must go next. There is just too wide a gap between the have's and the have nots in this world - and those at poverty level and even somewhat above are the people who we need to concentrate on giving a hand up. And I expect that to be the next round of emphasis in this society.
As far as the demise of the white race - I have read, as I am sure you have, the statistics - some say yes it's happening white others tend to not believe it. Personally, it just doesn't matter to me. And I think that is the major problem that you guys face with your arguments. To most people in mainstream America - it's just not that important.
You know Will, I watched people when the building was bombed in Oklahoma City, and when the Twin Towers went down, and in the recent hurricaines - and race, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation didn't matter. People reaching out and helping people - that's what happened. When Roper and others started their help for "white's only," others were outraged - many refused the help. Why? Because it just isn't what America - or the rest of the world, for that matter - is all about.
Incidentally, I don't understand why you can't register. I haven't seen any discrimination here. ;)