Tuesday, November 15, 2005

The Violence of Being a Teen


With all of the recent happenings surrounding Kingston High School in Kingston, New York, internet message boards and personal emails have been overflowing with individual thoughts regarding the young men who have been attacked and beaten. As most of those engaged in discussion are not residents of that community, and have no first-hand knowledge of what the demographics or the tensions are there, myself included, much of what is being said has no real basis in fact.

Since New Jersey racist, Hal Turner, has decided to rally in that city on Saturday, along with an entourage of Nazi and Klan goons, (if you believe), the rhetoric surrounding these incidents has, at times, turned pretty insidious. The comments being made here have been toned down and lack the invective that is being seen in other areas across the internet - as they should be. However, one should certainly not be taken in by those who are attempting to gain the favor of mainstream America by putting on a false face.

Earlier today I made a quick trip around some of the more popular hate forums to get an idea of just how volatile this situation may be - and I was not surprised to see the typical racist in their cro-magnon state. While Hal Turner is trying desperately now to encourage his rats to stage a peaceful demonstration - there are those who want anything but. Pragmaticsaxon, citing the recent riots in France, queried whether or not Kingston could be "...the match that ignites nationwide burning..." Of course, he would like that:

"Personally, I say strike the match and let's set this issue ablaze.. America needs to be purged of all the brownskins.

"America is infested with spics, niggas, habibs, camel jockeys, etc. They must all go...

Need to send a message to the NWO and the filthy fucking jews that this land is for the Aryan peoples only.. "

Sure, Turner said no way and emphatically stated that the rally would be a peaceful one - but with mindsets like that, nothing is guaranteed. One ray of light showed up on Turner's forum and that was someone who actually lives in Kingston and who went to the high school in question.

Swordphish, who claims he is not a racist, tried to talk some sense into the heathens that frequent that board, and had the following to say:

"There is no issue of crimes committed by blacks against whites in Kingston. The two kids that got beaten are the victims of bullying - nothing more, nothing less. The bullies just happened to be black. I don't care what color they are, such people are scum. It sickens me that these events got turned into a race issue.

"If there should be a rally, it should be a rally against bullies in the school. All kids deserve to attend school without being harrased, verbally or physically - but the truth is that many kids don't get to enjoy a school day without feeling threatened or uncomfortable. These kids come in all races and social classes.

"Black kids get bullied in Kingston High - usually by other black kids - and nothing is done about it. White kids get bullied in Kingston High - usually by other white kids - and nothing is done about it. But when a black kid bullies a white kid - or a white kid bullies a black kid - all of the sudden it turns into racial intolerance and all hell breaks loose. Go figure.

"These white kids got beaten because they were the nearest feasible target for a bunch of mean-spirited punks. I've been bullied - insulted - beaten - jumped - by white kids and black kids - all because I looked different or because I was poorer than other kids. This is high-school. This type of thing happens all the time.

"And in the end of all of this, there will still be bullies at Kingston High, and there will still be an apparent problem of black-on-white crime - especially as the racial and social diversity increases - it's a matter of simple math.

"So during this rally, I really hope that the PRO and ANTI people are truly fighting for something - and not just fighting eachother for no reason - that'd just be stupid."


I hope so too...swordphish. I really do.

Being a teenager in today's world is not an enviable position - it's not a safe one either. While we would all agree that no child should be afraid to go to school, the statistics tell us that what is happening all over this country gives every child a reason to fear. Consider:

*282,000 students in sceondary schools are physically attacked each month.
*43% of students fear harrassment in the bathrooms at school.
*100,000 students carry a gun to school.
*Every 7 minutes a child is bullied at school.
*More youth violence occurs AT school as opposed to on the way to school.
*According to the latest poll, thirty-two percent of parents fear for their child’s physical safety when the child is at school. Thirty-nine percent of parents with a child in grade six or higher are more likely to say they fear for their child’s safety. Twenty-two percent of parents whose children are in grade five or lower fear for their child’s safety. (Bureau of Justice Statistics)

Now for those who claim that the attacks in Kingston should have resulted in hate crime charges - perhaps they should have. But, the Kingston Police Department has stated that there is no evidence that the crimes were racially motivated. Those who perpetrated the crimes have been charged with felony assault. Without evidence that these assaults were racist in nature, there is little chance that such charges will be brought.

Understanding that emotions are running at full throttle and that the parents of at least one of the victims are anguished beyond belief, it remains absolutely unconscionable that those from the racist right would exploit these people and their pain to reach some unreachable goal of some insidious agenda. They are not interested in the pain or the anguish - only their own notoriety. They are not protesting bullying, or even school violence. They are protesting black people. They are protesting non-white individuals. They are protesting the very premise that this great country was built upon. In actuality...Hal Turner and friends may be the worst bullies of all.

10 comments:

  1. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

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  2. Just wanted to add a bit to my comment...

    The poster known as "Pragmaticsaxon" is just a shit-stirrer on Hal's board. There are a lot of Leftist agitators on the various boards - you probably know many of them, Nicole, and you probably have engaged in this a bit yourself. Whether you acknowledge this or not really doesn't matter, needless to say they are the same anti-racist losers who troll NIMBusters, OPP, and even your own forum at the CAH website.

    Hal has met with Kingston Mayor James Sottile and promised a peaceful rally weeks ago. But you don't want to report that. Nooooooooo, that would make Hal look good and show that this is a legitmate political protest!

    Anyway I'll have more commentary on this article after I finish reading it. Nice attempt at an objective and rational tone though, despite everyone knowing the contrary.

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  3. Regarding the lack of hate crime charges:

    "The U.S. Congress defined in 1992 a hate crime as a crime in which "the defendant's conduct was motivated by hatred, bias, or prejudice, based on the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation or gender identity of another individual or group of individuals" (HR 4797). In 1994, the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act added disabilities to the above list."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_crime

    The beating of teenager Robby Hedrick, who is White, was done by a Black boy, Joseph Williams. According to eyewitnesses and Robby himself, Williams initiated the attack with comments on Hedrick's appearance, particularly his hair, which comes from the very "white" goth culture. While Williams beat Hedrick, Williams used racial insults, calling Hedrick a "White Nigger".

    Clearly, Robby Hedrick was beaten because of his race and culture, and this attack falls under the hate crime statute and charges need to be filed.

    This incident focuses light on the two fallacies of "hate crime" legislation. Firstly, every violent attack is based on the emotion of hate; a person doesn't break another's face out of love.

    Secondly, "hate" crime legislation is selectively applied. Whenever a white beats a black and uses a racial slur, police press "hate" crime charges. There are even cases where a White beats a Black and no words are uttered, and "hate" crime charges are pressed simply because the White was dressed in certain style or had a shaved head.

    When the roles are reversed, as in the Hedrick case, we see that police deny a "hate" crime took place, even though the attack is the very defenition of a "hate" crime. School officials deny the incidnet, and have done so in three seperate incidents where Whites in the school have been beaten by blacks.

    This is not an isolated incident. As in the case of Lisa Brown, who put her White kids in the all-black public school in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, the school hemmed and hawed and covered up the racial incidents until Mrs. Brown went to the NY Daily News. And then the school had the nerve to chastise Mrs. Brown for talking to the paper!

    http://antiracistlosers.blogspot.com/2005/11/liberal-mom-gives-kids-violent-lesson.html

    Really, Nicole, you and your apologist friends need to move to France. Maybe the fires being set by rabid anti-semitic and anti-White Muslims will warm your soul but some of us simply do not want our children to go through the kind of hell the Hedricks and the Browns have already gone through.

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  4. Actually, Mr. Drudge Jr., Nikki mentioned several times that Hal Turner has publicly called for a peaceful rally:

    Hal Turner is trying desperately now to encourage his rats to stage a peaceful demonstration...

    Sure, Turner said no way and emphatically stated that the rally would be a peaceful one...

    Read a little more closely.

    And the violence espoused on VNN, Overthrow.com, and Stormfront is, in the main, advocated by white supremacists, not anti-racists.

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  5. Actually, Mr. Drudge Jr., Nikki mentioned several times that Hal Turner has publicly called for a peaceful rally:

    Hal Turner is trying desperately now to encourage his rats to stage a peaceful demonstration...

    Sure, Turner said no way and emphatically stated that the rally would be a peaceful one...

    Read a little more closely.

    And the violence espoused on VNN, Overthrow.com, and Stormfront is, in the main, advocated by white supremacists, not anti-racists.

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  6. No, Michael Brooks, you miss the point - which is typical of you left-wing, neo-Bolshevik types.

    Nichols quoted a poster to Hal's board. I responded to that.

    You're the one who needs to read a bit closer, Brooks.

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  7. Matt Drudge, Jr. said: "But you don't want to report that."

    She did report it, Matt. That was my point. Nikki could have been disingenuous and omitted that fact, but she provided this factual information.

    As for your statement that I am a "left-wing, neo-Bolshevik" type, feel free to call me whatever you'd like. Perhaps I will be doing the world a favor by allowing a very angry person a chance to vent.

    I am actually an independent voter who belongs to no political parties or advocacy groups (save the American Historical Association, a professional organization). My views tend toward the mainstream, but I am sure that you are less concerned with getting to the truth of this matter than you are to promoting your white supremacist views.

    Have a nice day!

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  8. "She did report it, Matt. That was my point. Nikki could have been disingenuous and omitted that fact, but she provided this factual information."

    Nick's reporting that was in passing. "Sure...", she wrote, and then went on ad nauseum about some leftist agitator on Hal's board. She just took that provacateur's post and blew it up to say that this is the way most of the social conservative right thinks. Nick also forgot to include that someone else wrote immediately afterwards that "NO, this is going to be peaceful". Hal himself has even said non-whites are welcome to march with him in the Kingston rally.



    "As for your statement that I am a "left-wing, neo-Bolshevik" type, feel free to call me whatever you'd like. Perhaps I will be doing the world a favor by allowing a very angry person a chance to vent."

    Angry? Hardly. Factual? You betcha.

    "I am actually an independent voter who belongs to no political parties or advocacy groups (save the American Historical Association, a professional organization). My views tend toward the mainstream, but I am sure that you are less concerned with getting to the truth of this matter than you are to promoting your white supremacist views."

    There you go again painting anyone with social-conservative views a "white supremacist". You really need to get a new game plan.

    Have a nice day!

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  9. Do you prefer "pro-white," Mr. Drudge, Jr.?

    How would you describe yourself?

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  10. to historymike:

    i don't know about mr. drudge jr. but as for myself yes indeed i prefer "pro-white"

    i believe as a white nationalist (aside from my natural racial bias) that the white race is far and away the most important race that has ever existed in all of human history as far back as humanity can be cataloged according to race it is the white race that stands apart from all the others

    from the time that alexander the great arose and in the face of impossible odds defeated the mighty persian empire to this present day (allowing for the exception of the dark age which began with the fall of rome and ended with the beginning of the italian renaisance) it has been the nation family peoples of the white race which has been without question absolutely dominate above all other races

    this fact and truth is so overwhelming and awesome to behold because of this over shadowing globally and world wide it is only due to the differences of ethnicity and culture and language within the white race nation of people itself that have served as a self restraint to prevent even more total the conquest and subjugation that the white race nation has already accomplished

    discovery, invention, innovation, technological perfection, arts, humanities, civility, warfare, science, medicine etc etc etc.... whatever the category whatever the subject it is the white race that has accomplished more than any other race

    probably most important of all within our nation that we belong to the white race in addition to being the single race that founded these united states has served in our generation as the great 'glue' that holds human society together....it is the white race that has the highest standards of civility and government ...you take the white race out of the picture and then you will see true race war as the minority groups wage war one against another

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