Saturday, November 19, 2005

Looking For Love Is Never Easy When You're A Nazi

Photo found at Midhudson News
Being a racist has its pitfalls. Being an outcast among most of society compels one to find love in all the wrong places as well as self-validation. It is little wonder that so many of them spin their events to the point of total distortion. But, if you are faced with little to no success, little to no acceptance, and little to no glory for your endeavors - hey...its almost understandable.

The latest claim in their quest for recognition is that the rally held by the National Socialist Movement in Toledo, Ohio last month which erupted into riots in the city and the Nazi's being hustled out of town, caused the Mayor of Toledo not to be re-elected. Of course, that is sheer and utter fabrication, but a lie that seems to have permeated the entire movement. For a good discussion of the truth behind the Mayor's loss, please check out History Mike's place.

Now that the non-event that took place in Kingston, New York is history, it will be interesting to see what they try to convince themselves of next. Early reports are pretty standard and predictable for those on the extreme right, "The media underestimated the numbers." "At least the message got out to all of the white lemmings." "Hal Turner did us a good job."

Let's consider for a moment that these racists have very little to celebrate - ever. They have to find a victory in even their bleakest moments. Tonight they will head home and crawl into their lonely beds and fantasize that the racial holy war is at hand and that an all white America is on the horizon. They'll hoist another one to the Reich and then to each other. They'll ruminate about how unfair whites are treated and how oppressed the race is becoming. Tomorrow they will attack their keyboards putting a spin on the days events that resemble nothing of the truth.

Did they accomplish anything today? Not one damned thing. Or...maybe they did. They accomplished showing the people of Kingston and others who were listening what amazing jackasses they all are.

Felicitations abound among them for Hal Turner, the organizer, right now. However, Hal Turner played it pretty much the way I thought he would - and he blew it just as I thought he would. Telling the group that the racists would return and keep returning until they bankrupted the city was probably one of the dumbest approaches we have seen any of them take in a very long time.

The unbelievable cost to a city when these people come to town is nothing to sneeze at - and when you have them promise to engage in a bankrupting scheme it is highly unlikely that any city is going to go to extremes to guarantee your safety or your right to free speech. Additionally, mainstream America has just seen and heard how despicable these people really are.

Turner, striving to refrain from his usual ranting and racial slurs on blacks, had to vent some where so he spoke of the media being controlled by what he referred to as the "oy vey crowd." A few cheers went up among his supporters and a lone "white power" was heard being shouted in the background.

Perhaps the crowning ignorance in all of this, however, was when Turner suggested that "as of tonight" there were a couple of dozen KKK guys in Kingston and that the white kids had better be left alone, admonishing "...if the police will not protect white students, then it falls to we the people to protect them, and we have a nasty version of street justice.”

Some of the racists are already lamenting Turner's inability to conduct himself in an appropriate manner claiming that he has embarrassed all of them. Others are pointing fingers at the NSM characters in uniforms as being more than humiliating for "proud whites."

Actually, as far as I am concerned, things could not have been better in Kingston today. The rally went for one hour. There was no violence and a huge police presence. The racists and hate-mongers had their right to free speech upheld and they were swiftly sent on their way. The pleas of the city fathers and officials were heard and the townspeople, for the most part, stayed away preferring other family events to this circus side-show. By and large, Turner and friends were "preaching to the choir" and no one else cared to listen.

On an interesting note, something happened on the way out of town and a group from the rally were turned away from a restaurant where it has been reported that three locals were openly laughing at the NSM Nazi's as they tucked tail and left. One of them was complaining that the police had shut two eating establishments down. More to come as information becomes available.

33 comments:

  1. Just wondering how all of this - especially the threat of two-dozen KKK guys - will effect the racial climate in that school. If there wasn't a race problem there, there very well might be now.

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  2. I am a Mother of a KHS freshman. I stood on the side lines watching the rally. The white supremist camera man told a young 17 year old girl next to me she was a whore. A nigger loving whore. He told her she was polluting her DNA by f*cking a black man. The girl began to cry.

    The camera man then began shouting other obcenities at other people around me. I went home. But it was obvious the Haters did not get the reaction from Kingston people they wanted. They were willing to resort to name calling and harassment to make the youths in the crowd angry. I also have 78 hate emails so far after I posted on the Hal Turner site. My postings were respectable and nice. The hate emails are posted on my posting board.

    I was just a concerned mom. Now I am pissed off.

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  3. He told the little Whore exactly what she needed to know. Maybe she'll stop & think before she drops her drawers for Niggers. I'm proud that the camera man had the gonads to make a stand for our race.

    And always remember Soccer Mom, it's better to be pissed off than pissed on.

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  4. I would certainly piss on you if I could.

    On the "sidelines" I wore a shirt that said No KKK. No more racism. And NO MORE BUSH. Because in the world at the moment that is the true issue.

    Haters and people (like you elmer) who degrade freedom of expression with such negative attitudes should be arrested for "Hate" crimes of thier own.

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  5. I'll bet you would, Nigger Lover. I hope your daughter brings home a Shit brown bouncing baby Coon.

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  6. I feel bad for you elmer.

    I certainly am glad I do not harbor hate for people.

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  7. I would be very very proud of a beautiful half and half baby. :)

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  8. How the Fuck could anyone be proud that their is Fucking a Nigger?

    It's beyond me. My daughters know I would disown them for that Beastality.

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  9. Typo:

    How the Fuck could anyone be proud that their daughter is Fucking a Nigger?

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  10. Now that does not make you much of a parent .. does it.

    Jesus taught us to love unconditionaly. I am no Christain. I am not perfect.

    But I love my children. And would no matter what. Your attitude Elmer speaks for itself. Disown your child.

    Might as well do it now. You would be doing her a favor Sir.

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  12. Nikki,

    You have a good site. Some good information packed in here. I am glad I ran across it.

    I want to leave you with this last piece of intrest I received due to posting a comment on Hal Turners Site.



    From: "james ryder" aryanunion@hotmail.com Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
    To: ellusivedreams@yahoo.com
    Subject: From R. James of the NAU
    Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:00:58 -0500


    To Toni elise above, I went to your site and I've seen your photos of
    you
    and "Joe". You are a nigger fucker and you are endangering your White
    children that you obviously had with a White man.

    You are just another fat, useless, brain-dead White woman, and if the
    darkies don't rape, rob, or kill you first, then you will get what you
    deserve by REAL White men! Your KKK father is rolling around in his
    grave
    cursing your name! He tried to lead you toward truth about race and
    loyalty
    towards your own people, but you reject your own fathers teachings to
    enbrace a lowly nigger! How sad it is that America is now filled with
    these
    fat, ugly cunts that drool over ugly, blotchy nigger dicks that
    statistics
    show are full of aids, crabs, syphillis, and so amny other diseases.
    What a
    fucking fool you are! I hope your White children are taken from your
    irresponsible and fat ass! Why don't you just kill yourself, and save
    everybody from looking at your useless fat body!

    Ldr. R. James, the NAU
    www.aryanunion.org

    Rahowa! Hail Victory!





    Intresting way to express freedom of speech and a need to be heard.

    I hope the world unites against racist pigs. No one deserves to be mistreated. Especialy our children.

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  13. I don't have to worry about my daughters. They are now in their 20's and they thank me for raising them to be racially aware.

    James is right. Your Coon and the other Coons in his brood will be trying to Fuck your kids in time.

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  14. First Elmer...I am leaving your comments up here for only one purpose - and that is to display the true nature of the beast. However, any future messages that you post here containing your racial epithets will be promptly removed. My purpose here is for discussion - not to provide you with a forum for decadence and abuse. However, I would like to thank you for demonstrating my point quite well.

    Hal Turner is not a racist??? This is precisely the sort of people who read his site, listen to his radio show and follow him to events. Now, tell me that the man is not a racist!

    Toni - thanks for sharing all of this. I think it is important for all to have first-hand accountings of what really takes place at one of these events and why people become so enraged. I have a pretty good idea who that racist camerman was - and I can only say that I am not surprised.

    I looked for Elusive Dreams but it seems to have disappeared. I hope it wasn't because of these people.

    (((Hugs))) to Toni - and take care of those little ones. There is nothing more precious than our children and I hope they are never tarnished by the likes of these goons.

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  15. I'm sorry that you can't tolerate the truth and delete it.

    Toni said that Jesus said to love all unconditionally, but if you remember in the Bible that God separated the tribes. He does not want the races to mix. I guess you will now say that God is Racist.

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  16. Mr. Frazier...this has nothing to do with "truth." It has everything to do with civility. If you would take the time to read what I cautioned you would understand that I am not threatening to remove messages that are posted in a cohesive and decent manner - only to remove those that you might post containing racial slurs or epithets. As I said, I will not provide you with a forum to be abusive to others. If you cannot live with that - then please go back to the Hal Turner site where you can even use your screen name.

    As to the religious aspect of your post, Jesus did say that we should love all people uncinditionally. As to your bastardized version of the Bible and of Babylon - I guess you must be an adherent of Christian Identity in which case, it is obvious that you and I would never agree on much of anything.

    Toni Elise was present at the rally...were you? Toni Elise was an eyewitness to what really happens behind the scenes of one of these events...were you? Toni Elise witnessed a 17 year old girl being verbally abused by the very people who were rallying supposedly rallying against violence. Tony Elise witnessed, first hand, the rally that "wasn't racist," that "wasn't about white supremacy," and that "wasn't about hate." Did you?

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  17. One other thing...did you read the email that Toni posted? She received that along with 77 others after posting on Hal Turner's board. Now, shall we try again...go ahead, try to tell me what a fine, loving, caring, man Hal Turner is. I dare ya.

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  18. I am still getting the emails and posts in my board I am deleting constantly.

    And harassing phone calls.

    EllusiveDreams has two l's. I think thats why you can not find it.

    I did that to make it more mine I guess. Accept we all have our elusive dreams.

    Mine is for people to accept and understand each other. It would end so much.

    If I come kill you Elmer. You died like everyone else. If I cut you. You bleed. We are all the same. No matter how hard you try to make it seem otherwise.

    Some of us are just more open minded then others.

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  19. Well...it seems that there was a reporter who got into the rally on the Nazi's side. In a story posted here, Record Online

    She validates what you shared about the cameraman - and yes, that is exactly who I thought it would be - no one other than the infamous Craig Cobb.

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  20. That reporter also took some of my hate mail .. which IP traces back to Hal Turners site.

    Harassment is punishable by law. It is not an expression of Religion or Opinon.

    She thinks we might be able to shut Hal's site down with them.

    That would be great.

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  21. Good luck, Toni. These are some dangerous, disturbed people.

    As for closing down Hal's site, it would be only a temporary setback. I am sure that he has mirror sites already set up.

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  22. That's right. The Great Hal Turner will not be shut down by the likes of you.

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  23. Ajax:

    You might actually convince a reader of something if you didn't write 361-word sentences.

    Helpful tools for writers:
    ** Paragraphs
    ** Punctuation marks (besides ellipses)
    ** Thesis

    I am assuming that you had a point to your post, but I struggled to follow this tortuous verbiage.

    I am not being sarcastic - any contribution you had to this debate was lost in a sea of rhetorical confusion.

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  24. The idiot calling himself Elmer Frazier is none other than Kennett, Missouri's Steve Holsten. He's an indigent man living off social security at the age of 45 and is mentally disabled.

    He's also believes that all age of consent laws should be eliminated.

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  25. The Faggot Nigger Loving Schwartzo the KIKE who is married to a Nigger is Pissed and spewing Shit lies about me from his hole because I tell the truth about the Niggers he loves so much.

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  26. I don't know how much Nigger truth she can stand.

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  27. Unbelievable! I go away for awhile and somebody let the dogs out...or in...or whatever!

    Stevo, Stevo, Stevo, what part of "you can't talk like that here" do you not understand? I told ya, and I told ya...and you just don't seem to understand. I guess we need to tell Turner to put you back on the short leash.

    Harry - hiya! There seems to be such an inordinant number of "indigent" people running around in this thing they call a "movement." What's up with that?

    Ajax - I don't know where you came from, but Mike has given you some very good suggestions about the tools that you need to implement.

    Isidic - When Toni Elise first mentioned the camera man, I knew it had to be Craig Cobb. I think it is time that we took a really good long look at him.

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  28. Big words don't mean a lot when there is no way to back them up. Because you spout you have knowledge at your fingertips ; It does not make you a genius.

    The email I posted and the hate words you "Hal Turner" supporters throw around like little school children with trash mouths ; speaks for itself of the intellect level. None.

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  29. Ajax wrote:
    "...coupled with the computer-internet i am fully and totally liberated as one...

    This reads like something from the Matrix. Methinks ajax has some ego-management issues.

    As far as the anti-racists being the hatemongers, I beg to differ. You will not find these groups advocating genocide, forced immigration, and such beauties as Hal Turner's providing his readers with information about poisoning the nation's milk supply (I would link this nonsense, but I don't want to give the psychos a leg up).

    It is the racist right who advocate violence, and they do it in the name of "preserving the white race."

    Are there racist blacks? Certainly! There are idiots in every race and ethnicity. When someone like Farrakhan spouts off his lunactic ideology, he gets the same analysis. Here are some links to MSM treatment of Farrakhan (there are millions, and I just picked the first two I saw):



    BBC

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  30. (perhaps a 'dolt' as well)


    I dont know about "dolt". But your punctuation and structure is terrible. And only a child would use the word dolt. Thought it kindd of reminds me of something my daughter might say.

    Since all of your rambling long post seems an outreach , or grapsing at straws attempt , to make some sense and goodness come out of being racist ; I think no comments are needed at all.

    I am who I am. Easy to know. Openminded and often open mouthed as to what I think. But mature and VERY child like yes. Every adult should embrace the young person they were and still are.

    If adults related to thier young people more. Perhaps there would be less violence in our children. And more helping hands all around.

    If you teach goodness and respect. That is what you get. If you teach hate and seperation. That is what you get as well.

    Anyone can see it for themselves what good comes of racism. All they have to do is look at my emails.

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  31. Beautiful words, Toni.

    The world would be a better place if more people embraced such a philosophy.

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  32. A sampling of the kind of mind that poster "Matt Drudge, Jr." (aka "News Guy") poseeses:

    From that cunt Nicole Nicols' blog - Apparently Craig Cobb was pissing off one of these assholes in Kingston - GOOOOOD!!!!!!!!

    Also, that fucktard "History" Michael Brooks is some Toledo Anti Fucktard - here is his blog


    He posted this exercise in intelligent discourse at a Hal Turner messageboard.

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  33. ajax conveniently ignores my previous post on Farrakhan.

    It is clear that he has his mind up, and that he is not interested in true dialogue.

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