Thursday, September 24, 2009

Words Continue To Haunt Bill White

Even after his family posted his $25,000 bond, Bill White's nightmare continues. Just five days after his release, Bill had to turn himself back in to await the ruling of the appealate court as prosecuters claim that the words he spoke were not those of someone who could be considered safe for the community.

TO THE ORIGINAL STORY

Neo-Nazi leader William A. White was sent back to jail Wednesday by a federal appeals court.

White, who is charged with threatening people by e-mail and online, was released on a $25,000 bond last week by U.S. District Court Judge James Turk.

In jail since last October, White enjoyed just five days of freedom before the latest development in a yearlong series of court battles over his bond.

At the request of federal prosecutors, the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals entered a stay of Turk's decision -- meaning that White will remain in custody while the bond issue is appealed.

The government contends that White is a danger to the Roanoke community, citing Web site postings in which he wrote of his urge to "kill, kill, kill" and of his plans to go on a murderous rampage.

White turned himself in to the Roanoke City Jail about 5:45 p.m. Wednesday after learning of the court's order, defense attorney David Damico said.

At a hearing Friday, Turk placed White on home electronic monitoring, basing his decision to release White from jail on testimony from a psychiatrist who determined the 32-year-old was not a danger to the community.

That finding has been hotly disputed by prosecutors, who have cited White's own words during a series of bond hearings and appeals that have involved four judges and two appellate courts in Virginia and Chicago.

In a filing last week to the 4th Circuit, Justice Department attorney Paige Fitzgerald wrote that perhaps the most revealing comment from White was what he said on the witness stand during his first bond hearing in October.

"You could kill a whole lot of people, and you still wouldn't be killing very many who had any value,"
White testified at the time.

"That's my general outlook on the world. I don't place a lot of value on mundane people. I think most people live their lives in a way that's self-destructive, modernist, corrupt."
Magistrate Judge Michael Urbanski, who presided over the hearing, said at a subsequent hearing that it was one of the most chilling moments he has experienced while on the bench.

At that October hearing, Urbanski ordered White held without bond on a charge that he encouraged violence against the foreman of a Chicago jury that convicted a fellow white supremacist.

But after a federal judge in Chicago dismissed the charge in July -- ruling that White's actions were protected by the First Amendment -- Urbanski decided to release White earlier this month when he was returned to Roanoke to face a second set of charges.

Federal prosecutors appealed Urbanski's ruling to Turk and then appealed again to the 4th Circuit when Turk also decided to release White.

A Dec. 9 trial date has been scheduled for White, who is charged in Roanoke with threatening a nationally syndicated newspaper columnist, a civil rights attorney from Canada, a university administrator and others who did not share his white supremacist views.

Prosecutors say White made his threats online and by e-mail and telephone.

White, who heads the Roanoke-based American National Socialist Workers Party, is expected to raise

46 comments:

  1. In news that has more of a bearing on your life: 7 million Americans have lost their jobs since Obama was elected.

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  2. You racist, you just said that because Obama is an African American.

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  3. This country is going down the shitter and bw is the least of our worries.

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  4. He who laughs bestSeptember 24, 2009 10:19 PM

    George W. Bush and his GOP stooges caused the latest Great Recession, no the first time they've done it either. Obama has done a good job concerning the economy and most everyone who doesn't have their head in the ass realizes that we are on the road to recovery. Why don't you find something else to whine about? Mean while I will continue to laugh at you and your continued stupidity. LOL.

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  5. The best kept secret appears to be that Bill White is Jewish.

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  6. Bill is so unlucky since he has to contend with nasty ass Nigger Dick Sucking judges & etc. I thought he was finally getting a much break till those Faggots had to Fuck things up for him.

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  7. If Bill White was Jewish, I wouldn't care. Honestly, I wouldn't care one bit. Truth is truth even if a horse is saying it. You anti-whites and pseudo-racist don't get it. Attacking the person is becoming an even bigger waste of time. And when you can't attack the message...you need to re-examine yours.

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  8. Nikki - "Bill's nightmare continues"?

    Words of compassion from Nikki Nicholes for Bill White?

    Where's the gloating? The glee?

    WTF?

    Seriously. What. The. Fuck?

    This is confusing.

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  9. nikki has started to follow her grandfathers way of thinking.


    Go nikki, let the hate out.


    SINCERELY,
    COLD BUTTER!

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  10. Erica Hardwick-HoeschSeptember 25, 2009 2:30 AM

    Bill White has a message? You don't know Bill White, his only message is: "Look at me!" If he was to get what he deserves they would have to lock him up for the rest of his worthless life. The man is a complete sociopath who is on no ones side except his own.

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  11. copied from the story on hate in buffalo

    Something is strange here. I came to this page because someone called and asked me to take a look at it because it seemed like something was fishy.

    Although I haven't spoken to Erica in well over a year now, these recent postings just don't sound like her. I knew her pretty well for many years, and I can say with certainty that she never worked for NSM88 records or ShopWhite, and I'm almost sure she wasn't a roadie or manager for any bands.

    I also looked in my contacts, and had several e-mails for her. None of which were the one at rock.com. She hasn't logged into myspace in ages, and has not posted anywhere else on the internet.

    I believe some obsessive nutcase is posing as my long lost friend. Whatever motivations they might have, I would strongly urge those in communication with this person to use caution.

    If it is her, then I'd like to say it sucks to see her surface here rather than picking up the phone to call a brotha. I hope she's doing well and finding whatever happiness life might bring her way.

    A few questions here might be able to confirm identity, also.

    What is your favorite pizza place?

    What word is tattooed on your waistline?

    When you got snowed in in NJ, what town were you in and what game did we play?

    Where did we meet in Baltimore prior to a Hell To Pay/STOUT gig back in 2005 to shoot pool?

    Where did you and DLJ go after the time you guys got in a fight with KSS members at a punk show in Delaware?




    If the person posting as Erica can answer those questions, I believe it is actually her, and by my asking those questions she will know who I am. Otherwise, Nikki, you might want to delete all the posts that have been made by this person and see if we can trace the IP address. They could be someone trying to compromise antifa by posing as someone we know.

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  12. Erica: the pot calling the kettle black.

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  13. Bill White's mouth has gotten him in trouble again. He is trying to play the martyr victim. He has got to learn to play dead dog while in the belly-of-the-beast or the System will swallow some TUMS and get the indigestion under control. I would give this same advice if it was an ARA member being railroaded. It's all about tactics.

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  14. I see us real skinheads as being crucified for the sins of others. The Nazis are terminal misfits just trying to get attention. ... from what they do ~Chris Drake Augusta Chronicle 11/25/97

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  15. So? I've discovered that to be true in most cases with very few exceptions. I've changed my opinion on a lot of things but that one has unfortunately held pretty solid over the years. Poor rejects and misfits flock to the Nazi thing while misfit, social rejects flock to the anti-racist movement.

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  16. Isn't it interesting that Steve Holsten changes the subject from Bill White to nigger dick sucking. He does the same thing with Hal Turner.

    The truth is, Steve equates Turner and White with nigger dick sucking.

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  17. Nigger dick sucking, eBay scamming, passing bad checks, stealing DirecTV services, raising pedo sons and jacking to the "young shaved ones" are the gimp pedo Holswine's stock in trade.

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  18. Drake said," So? I've discovered that to be true in most cases with very few exceptions. I've changed my opinion on a lot of things but that one has unfortunately held pretty solid over the years. Poor rejects and misfits flock to the Nazi thing while misfit, social rejects flock to the anti-racist movement."

    Which one are you now?

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  19. Oh, I'm NS as before. However, what collects around the groups is not for me. You've got weirdness on one end that I can't deal with and pure out anti-racist finks and out and out loonies on the other end. But the truth is the truth.

    A guy in a half-million dollar home and two PHDs can lie to you. A guy living in a trailor with three felonies can tell you the truth. The factor that devides is who is a coward and who isn't. Who has to get things done with deception and how get's things done with fists and boots.

    Yeah, most Nazis are freaks. Sad but true. I can give you at least three web addresses you can visit, and I promise you, that in 45 seconds you can see that I complete social reject came up with 60% of it.

    I said years ago: dump the loonies and the rejects. I said it to a lot of people. I said it to Bill White. Half of them couldn't live without the numbers and the other half (Bill for example) felt too sorry for people.

    One day...one day the decent and productive minority in the NS scene will get together and get things done. I see that happening a little now, all the while being trailed by loonies and rejects like biting flies. If I could get half...just half the people the rejects and loonies ran off back together, it would be the biggest group in the entire nation.

    The problem with me is, I don't get disgruntled with people and go talk to the feds, turn anti or spend countless hours bemoaning what I think is wrong with everyone else. What I say, who I am and who I'm talking to. That's all you get, that's all I think matters. That's why I stick.

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  20. Erica Hardwick-Hoesch said...
    "Bill White has a message? You don't know Bill White, his only message is: "Look at me!" If he was to get what he deserves they would have to lock him up for the rest of his worthless life. The man is a complete sociopath who is on no ones side except his own."

    Nothing more disgusting than a former WN whore/field-mattress like Erica...seriously.

    Get a fucking life.

    How's that Hepatitus C thingy working out for ya?

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  21. "Chris Drake":

    Yeah, most Nazis are freaks,

    depends how you define "freaks";
    if you mean they're "dysfuntional" & their lives have been totally EFFED.....well....in 99 cases our of a hundred, you can blame the kikez for that!

    IMO, kikes, niggers and "anti-racists" are "the freaks"....sub-human vermin only fit to be stomped into a bloody PULP!

    in a proper WN society, these Nazi "freaks", as you call them, could have their lives put back on track....how many Germans could have been classified as "no- hopers" until Hitler came along?

    you can't grow prize-winning orchids in a toxic-waste dung-heap....that's the sort of "society" we have @ present!

    I said years ago: dump the loonies and the rejects. I said it to a lot of people. I said it to Bill White. Half of them couldn't live without the numbers and the other half (Bill for example) felt too sorry for people

    wtf's "a loonie"?

    wtf's "a reject"?

    i'll "turn that around"....if our current anti-Nature, ZOG-bot society doesn't classify you as "a loonie" and/or "a reject", then, in fact, in Nature's Order, that is EXACTLY wtf you ARE!

    that said, there probably ARE white men who have been too badly fucked up by ZOG for their lives to be "redeemable"....you'll find them in differing locales...maximum-security gaols (intimidated & "owned" by nigga gang-banger savages!), insane asylums (usually "set up" by ZOG-bot shrinks) and...yeh....even in "trailer parks"....their lives a dismal mess (no family, no friends, no job!) because of the fckn kikez.....for such as those(and there could well be countless millions!).....i recommend forming them into "suicide batallions" to "take out" ZOG-targets of opportunity..."synagogues of Satan", abortion clinics, judæo-Marxist "academics", "anti-racists", race-mixers, gun-grabbers, multi-culturalists, high-ranking free-masons, main-stream media outlets, ZOG politicians, ZOG judges, high-ranking ZOG Kwaps, rich & powerful kikez, uppity nogz &c!

    One day...one day the decent and productive minority in the NS scene will get together and get things done

    won't happen until we get rid of the current, insane, ZOG "society" that afflicts us...for sanity to prevail, you need a sane environment!

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  22. I really wonder how someone who posts like Jimbo can talk about a "sane environment" or Drake can use the words decent and productive when talking about the Nutzi scene. The whole irony of it is the funniest thing I've read in years.

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  23. There are decent and productive people involved. Otherwise, there would be no scene at all. It's just like the tired old "George Bush is stupid" teenage mantra. He's a lot of things but stupid isn't one of them: he was president for eight years. Even "our" affirmative action current president at least had to know how to work the system enough to get to where he is now. Same with the NS scene. It's been around for years in spite of (not because of) all the loonies and freaks. It's always had a handful of regular folks keeping it for totally dying out. That's obvious if you drop the dull-witted and very Jewish excuse that everyone who doesn't think as you've been told to is either crazy, stupid or evil.

    But why should anyone care what me or anyone else says about the NS scene in America? Jeff Schoep and Bill White both would probably totally agree off the record, though both men can't stand one another. The things both men and their families have gone through due to members and ex-members of their own groups would make your heads spin. Their children, their parents, their income, their safety has all been attacked or put at risk, not by "anti-racist" activists but people who claim to believe more or less the same thing. Think they get tired of the weirdos, internet-weaklings, freaks, loonies and what not?

    No, I'm not ready to subject my family and comrades to any of that. I can get far more done on my own than I can working around people I wouldn't dare invite into my home.

    And here's another thing to consider. Once there was a group of people who operated out of Florida. They were "hardened racists". Lot's of eye candy, plenty of big talk always followed them around.

    They all got drunk one night and started yelling from a balcony at an negro and some white whore. The couple and their friends were equally drunk and started yelling back, confident that the cops were across the street. Oh, it was some show. Nigger-this and race traitor whore that. I was pulling security that night on that side of the motel. I told them to all go inside their rooms and stay there until they calmed down. They didn't budge. I told their leader to get his people off the balcony. He insisted on letting them stay. I'd taken to grabbing them by the arms and pulling them away from the railing, one by one. Yes, I was on my way to getting my ass kicked by five or six of the Florida guys. Mark Martin showed up and together we finally got them to settle down. Guess who they were? It was David Gletty's crew. Every last one of them turned out to be informants too.

    The rest of the night I'm wondering why Gletty didn't raise a hand to them or better yet, what he was doing hanging around such a crowd of shiftless drunks and weirdos. If it wasn't for that being semi-acceptable behavior, those guys would have never been able to operate as they did. That's just a thought.

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  24. Self Asks: Is the picture of a decent or productive person?

    Mommy's Little Basement Commando


    Hee hee hoo (snicker, Guff, snicker)
    Must excuse self now. Self Laugh so hard, self shit self. BUWAHAHAHAHA MAYBESO.

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  25. uhh....wtf didn't they just go down there and blow the nigga & his race-traitor cunt slag "AWAY"?

    eh?!?

    that would'v been the "white" thing to do!

    i told you fckn maggots before and i will tell you again!...when the SHTF, i'm gunna be payin' the 'Kwa a visit.....and there'll be niggaz & jewz strewn across the fckn land-scape...in big, bloody BUNCHES!

    i'm gunna "do" 'em THREE WAYS....mulitple gun-shots with heavy-calibre pistols & hunting rifles using hollow-point 'projectiles', chain-saws & machettes & "home-made" flame-throwers!

    you fckn nigga, jew maggot vermin....yr time is UP, you fckn anti-Nature, anti-God FILTH!

    suicide bombers?

    wait'll youse see "a suicide Aussie" in action, you fckn nigger-luvvin', kike-kissin' SCUM!

    (niggers being "kind" to animals!)

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  26. Alex Linder is a Gurlie ManSeptember 26, 2009 9:25 AM

    Fake Ass-Trail-yon Jimbo has lost it again. Take your medicine Alex you little pussy. Better hope no one shows up and kicks sand in your pussy face, today.

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  27. Anonymous Pussy sez:

    .....whine, cry whine Bill White....whine Jeff Scheop.....

    You want me to feel sad for dress up Nazis or Nazis of any kind? You honestly can't think I could feel sorry for Jeff Schoep or Bill White? That DeLorean guy is a fucking A#1 hero. I hope he keeps it up. Every day that Bill is hammered by a large nigger dick or spends another day in jail is proof positive that that Karma really works.

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  28. Sure this is not a TEXTING 13 year old girl?
    Are you upset because your boyfriend dumped you for a black girl?

    uhh....wtf didn't they just go down there and blow the nigga & his race-traitor cunt slag "AWAY"?

    eh?!?

    that would'v been the "white" thing to do!

    i told you fckn maggots before and i will tell you again!...when the SHTF, i'm gunna be payin' the 'Kwa a visit.....and there'll be niggaz & jewz strewn across the fckn land-scape...in big, bloody BUNCHES!

    i'm gunna "do" 'em THREE WAYS....mulitple gun-shots with heavy-calibre pistols & hunting rifles using hollow-point 'projectiles', chain-saws & machettes & "home-made" flame-throwers!

    you fckn nigga, jew maggot vermin....yr time is UP, you fckn anti-Nature, anti-God FILTH!

    suicide bombers?

    wait'll youse see "a suicide Aussie" in action, you fckn nigger-luvvin', kike-kissin' SCUM!

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  29. You have to understand that Alex Linder is a lot like a 13 year old girl. I mean other than the obvious, that he has a body of a 13 year old girl. Linder much like Drake and Von think that somehow if they have hundreds of socks that agree with them that this somehow substantiates their moronic points of view.

    The facts as we know it:

    There is no ZOG, studies show that most believe who believe in ZOG also believe they were anal probed by Aliens.

    Racism is not built into humans. Humans are 99.9 percent genetically the same no matter what your race.

    The world is not coming to an end. If George W. Bush couldn't do it no one could. Obama is not doing a bad job, they is a lot of stupidity on both the far right and the far left.

    Neither Von nor Chris Drake know shit about anything except how to be an asshole and hate others.

    Both Burks and Ramsey's are complete and total assholes.

    These are the facts and they are not in dispute.

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  30. i'm gunna "do" 'em THREE WAYS....mulitple gun-shots with heavy-calibre pistols & hunting rifles using hollow-point 'projectiles', chain-saws & machettes & "home-made" flame-throwers!

    Hair spray and a lighter should not be considered as a "home-made" flame-thrower.

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  31. "Citing Iran’s revelation earlier this week that it is constructing a second, smaller uranium enrichment facility, President Barack Obama demanded that the Iranian government “come clean” about his long-standing accusations of a nuclear weapons program, and said he would not rule out attacking the nation if they refused."

    Tell me how Obama is different from Bush? This is like Bush 2.0 or something.

    Obama might want to reconsider this conflict with Iran since Russia has made it very clear where they stand on the issue.

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  32. Well, Obama's decision to shelve the missile shield (just part of a multilayer defense for the USA) has done nothing to get concessions from Russia. Just one example of how incompetent in foreign affairs this President truly is. Either that or he just doesn't care about the security of the United States.

    Obama is inept. This captain of the U.S. ship of state is going to get everyone on fucking board killed. He doesn't know what the Hell he is doing.

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  33. Jesus, Obama will do anything to get the Americas attention off of the health care bill and this disaster of an economy...even if that means starting another fucking war.

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  34. It just makes me laugh so hard when I see the racist trash (either woman and child beat Drake or Von) trying to tag foreign affairs with their race colored glasses. To them I say what I said before the election. Obama will win and these idiots will raise their whining to new levels. The cry babies haven't disappointed me. Every day I wake up and see them crying it makes my fucking day. You keep whining bitches, I will keep laughing at you. LOL. Let's see who has the last laugh. LOL.

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  35. Obama’s is failing at fixing the economy and health care … so he’ll start a phony war to blame his failings upon (while paying back the Bankers at the same time by doubling the price of oil and juicing the military ind. complex budgets) … and THAT’S A SLAM DUNK!

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  36. Iran is toast. More stupid wars right out of the Bush playbook. This may even go nuclear w/c is what the elite want.

    1. It will give the elite, NWO, the opportunity to declare Martial Law

    2. Draft

    3. More diversions: pay no attention to the collapse of the economy

    4. Stop the momentum of auditing the Federal Reserve Bank, etc…

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  37. While I’m no fan ahmadinejad, he is a much needed adversary to the globalist empire.

    They definitely want war.

    They already sent in the jackals and that failed, which means the economic hitman failed. Now it is obvious, they’re going for plan C: declaring war and sending in troops.

    Unless they find some other way to otherthrow ahmadinejad and put in a puppet government, it is going to happen folks.

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  38. Oh my God. These people have absolutely no shame. They try to sell us another war based on the same overused cliches and lies.

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  39. Drake beats on kidsSeptember 26, 2009 6:05 PM

    When will Drake and his cocksucking buddy, Blevins realize they are retarded? No war, economy is getting better pull your head out of your asshole, bitch.

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  40. Hey, nobody mentioned
    COLD BUTTER!


    SINCERELY,
    COLD BUTTER!

    THE KINDER GENTLER RACIST!

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  41. You mean the retarded racist. CB is definitely retarded but then that is most racists.

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  42. Boa: people are also 99.9% the same as gorillas too. Nice try though.

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  43. Some anonymous person fearing to put their name on something that they'd face certain ridicule upon said:


    ....people are 99.9% the same as gorillas....

    Wow were did you take Anatomy and Physiology? While gorillas are genetically similar to humans (something like 98% similar) the Anatomy and Physiology are quite different. One look at the Gorillas feet will tell you that, or it's head, the thick fur all over it's body, gee there seems to be a lot of differences. Dude if
    you are saying that you personally are 99.9 similar to a monkey, all I can tell you is that you must have a great deal of trouble attracting the opposite sex. I have to ride with BOA on this.

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  44. Boa appears to be into sucking Nigger dicks again.

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  45. Who the fuck pulled your chain, pedo?
    Hurry up and die. Hate they taken your foot yet? I can't wait for you to die so DirecTV and get your shitty trailer.

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  46. Justin Boyer has been contacting anti-racist groups to slander us and try to weaken our organization. ~ANSWP Commander

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