Thursday, July 27, 2006

Blind Justice?

Yesterday, speculation and misinformation concerning the disappearance of Vanguard News Network and the VNN Forums were running rampant across the internet. Bill White claimed, erroneously once more, that the site had been taken down because of complaints made by NSM members Eric Adams and his wife to Alex Linder's internet service provider.

Today it was learned that the shutdown had nothing to do with the NSM and everything to do with Alex Linder and friends issuing a call to arms against a Canadian Judge Konrad Finckenstein and attorney Richard Warman over the incarceration of fellow white supremacist Thomaz Winnicki.

Understanding that Canadian law is much more restrictive when it comes to hate speech than American law, the question still remains - how is it that Hal Turner does more - much more of the same kind of thing along with those who frequent his website and yet receives nothing in the way of punishment or investigation? One can only assume that Turner is more useful to the powers that be on the outside rather than where he needs to be.

TO THE ORIGINAL STORY
Death threats raise alarm

A U.S. white supremacy leader issues a call to arms against a Canadian judge and others.
By RANDY RICHMOND, FREE PRESS REPORTER


The Canadian Human Rights Commission has stepped up security for staff working on hate crimes in the wake of death threats from an American white supremacy leader.

The same threats, written over the jailing of Londoner Tomasz Winnicki, prompted an American communications company to shut down one of the largest U.S. white supremacy websites yesterday.

Vanguard News Network is described by U.S. anti-racism advocates as one of the most active and popular white supremacy websites.

But yesterday afternoon it was taken offline because of concerns raised in Canada over threats posted by its leader, Alex Linder.

Linder issued a call to arms on his website against Federal Court of Canada Justice Konrad W. von Finckenstein, members of the human rights commission and Ottawa lawyer Richard Warman.

"Killing Warman, 'judge' von Finckenstein, or any of the jews who make up the dictatorial 'human rights' council . . . would be a genuine act of patriotism," Linder declared.

"That . . . is VNN's view . . ."

The threat was posted last week.

"We are reviewing it. We are taking it seriously," said Andrew Baumberg, spokesperson for the federal court.

The human rights commission has taken several steps, spokesperson Kathrin Stokes-Bonhomme said yesterday.

"Decisions have been made to add security for staff working on hate crimes," she said.

She refused to elaborate.

The commission and Warman both drafted letters to U.S. police and the Internet service provider for Vanguard News Network after Linder's call to arms.

"This is a direct incitation to murder," said Warman, a human rights advocate who targets Internet hate sites.

Vanguard News Network also posted death threats from its members, including one saying outlaw bikers had been offered money to kill Warman and his family.

"Money CAN buy justice . . . (Warman) is going down," the message stated.

Many Internet service providers have policies prohibiting the posting of threatening information.

"The site has been taken down," confirmed a spokesperson for the Internet service provider yesterday afternoon.

Linder could not be reached for comment by phone and did not answer e-mail inquiries.

The Southern Poverty Law Centre, an anti-racism group in the U.S., describes Linder as a rising white supremacy star and "the operator of a gutturally racist website that is close to breaking into the big time by becoming one of the 10,000 most-visited pages on the Net."

Vanguard News Network is the same website that hosted Londoner Winnicki's long-running tirade against non-whites and non-Christians.

In 2003, Warman filed a complaint with the human rights commission that Winnicki was breaching the Canadian Human Rights Act by likely exposing certain groups to hatred and/or contempt.

Winnicki was called before a human rights tribunal last summer.

He was also ordered by a federal court to stop posting hate messages until the tribunal reached a decision.

Winnicki refused and two weeks ago was found in contempt of court and jailed for nine months.

Meanwhile, in April, the tribunal ruled he had indeed broken the act. He was ordered to pay $11,500 in fines and compensation.

40 comments:

  1. I told you Bill White was a liar. He's not wanted in the WN movement, and the moment he launches his first public appearance as the head hillbilly running ANSWP, he's going down in a firestorm of ridicule, incessant internet attacks, and a thousand verbal needles intent on popping his balloon of pomposity. In short, he and his group of losers are going to be smashed. And the best part of it all is that I and many other WNs are going to enjoy every minute of his soon-to-come public humiliation.

    signed,
    VNN forum member

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  2. Bill has no shame. Nothing that you have listed will deter Billy Boy one bit Jeff. Look for the VNN forum to come back at Niggermania.com in a day or two.

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  3. Yeah, and the sumbitch doesn't know the history of serial killers for shit, neither!

    LOL!

    Take care, all!

    The Insufferable Borg

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  4. Yes, how does Hal Turner get away with so much more?

    Turner is a plant.

    Bill White regularly has gone to law enforcement about people he hates. Not only Jon Snyder but Vic Wolzek also.

    White is a plant.

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  5. So...you are saying that you believe them to be planted on the internet and in these organizations for the purpose of gathering information on others?

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  6. niggermania.com isn't even on it's own machine. It's on earthlink's

    webhost.it.earthlink.net

    to be exact.

    I wonder if anyone has called earthlink about a possible TOS for niggermania?

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  7. It seems that NIMBusters has dissappeared, too...

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  8. Well, Hal is an American for one thing. I keep telling you morons that what he says isn't illegal.

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  9. Oh, I wouldn't be so sure about that, Blevins. We are in a whole new ball game right now - one that you probably can't wrap that feeble mind around.

    Be a nice little lap dog, now - go give your master a big ole kiss.

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  10. Well...it looks like the poor, fledgling NSM just can't catch a break:

    http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=477104



    Nazi meeting won't fly, county says
    Officials want to hold Hitler shrine's creator in contempt for a gathering without proper permits
    By JENNIE TUNKIEICZ
    jtunkieicz@journalsentinel.com
    Posted: July 27, 2006
    Sugar Creek - Walworth County officials say a planned meeting next month of the National Socialist Movement at the Adolf Hitler Museum built by a former Nazi Waffen SS veteran and retired Wisconsin farmer would violate a court order.

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    The county filed a motion Wednesday in Circuit Court contending that Ted Junker is in contempt of court for violating the agreement he reached last month not to hold public assemblies on his property because he lacked the proper zoning or permits.

    Junker, 87, had built the museum and meeting room on his farm and had hoped to open it to the public, but Walworth County officials said he failed to seek the proper permits to build the structure or to host public events. On June 16, Junker signed a stipulation to a permanent restraining order filed by the county that prevented him from holding any large group meetings on the property.

    Earlier this month, it was learned that the National Socialist Movement, a Minnesota-based Nazi organization, was planning a national rally in Madison on Aug. 26. The organization also planned to hold a "Unity Under the Swastika" conference at Junker's meeting room.

    Walworth County Deputy Corporation Counsel Michael P. Cotter said the plan for multiple groups of an unknown number to meet at Junker's property is a violation of the agreement he signed.

    "It's not a First Amendment issue, it's a zoning issue," Cotter said. Cotter said that Junker understood he did not have the proper zoning for public meetings, and that he could have private showings for individuals.

    "It's clearly a public assembly, there's just no question," Cotter said of the group's planned meeting at Junker's museum. "I'm of the opinion now that a judge has to tell him that it's not right. He has to come in and get the appropriate zoning for this to happen."

    Kris Johnson, spokesman for the group's Wisconsin branch, said Wednesday that he had no comment on the Walworth County action against Junker.

    A court hearing for Junker has been set for 2 p.m. Aug. 22.

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  11. Do your worst Schwarto, Niggermania has been TOS by bigger badder than you. We're still here, going on the fourth year now.

    On further review VNN won't be coming to Niggermania anytime soon. Those stupid fucks won't give me any assurance that there will not be any further threats against judges...

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  12. "We are in a whole new ball game right now..."

    Do you mind explaning that for us folks that just can't wrap our mind around it?

    Put this thing in context if you don't mind.

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  13. Why do I get the feeling that Nikki, would like to chuck our Constitution?

    I bet she salivates at the idea of America having speech laws like Canada or Europe.

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  14. Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:38:33 -0400
    From: Hal Turner
    Subject: Re: Fwd: BETTER HAVE A GOOD LAWYER HAL
    To: GRUMPY y2krulesyou@yahoo.com

    You really are a stupid nigger, aren't you?

    The FBI would NEVER tell you if they were getting a warrant for anyone.
    They would NEVER tell you if they planned to arrest someone.

    The reason they would never tell you is to prevent exactly what you're
    doing now: Warning me. Sure, you think it isn't warning me. . . . you
    think it is threatening me. Making me scared. It isn't.

    I have a very good relationship with law enforcement. From my local
    police, to the county sheriff, to the state police, to the FBI/Secret
    Service/US Marshall service, they ALL know that if they want to arrest
    me, they are to knock on my door with a warrant and I will allow them
    to
    arrest me. No shoot outs. No "going out with a bang." No hostage
    situations or Waco-style stand-offs. No suicide by cop.

    They also know that if they try any other method, they put themselves
    at
    great risk of being killed.

    You see, I live in a very bad neighborhood. There are "home invasions"
    where gangs kick in a front door claiming to be police, then rob, rape
    and murder. The police know that I will shoot at anyone who kicks in
    my
    door, whether they yell police or not.

    Seeing as I do not want to shoot any law enforcement by mistaking them
    for home invaders, and since I certainly don't want them to shoot me,
    we
    have a gentleman's agreement: If they knock and present their warrant,
    I will act like a gentleman and allow an arrest.

    I am so intent on doing things right, that the FBI Joint Terrorism Task
    Force actually assigned a Supervising Special Agent to be the SOLE
    point
    of contact between me and the federal government of the United States.
    If ANY law enforcement agency of the federal government has any
    concerns
    about me, or wants any information about me, when they put my name in a
    police computer, they are instantly referred to this supervising
    Special
    Agent at the FBI. In fact, the FBI has my name "flagged" in the entire
    NCIC system. If ANY police department or law enforcement agency
    ANYWHERE even runs my name through the police computer, the FBI
    Supervising Special Agent gets a printout of that request and will
    contact that agency to find out why they are inquiring about me.

    All of these safeguards are designed to prevent a tragedy.

    You see, there are a lot of nuts like you in the world who call the
    cops
    and tell them all sorts of bullshit. The FBI wants to make certain
    that
    some local yokel doesn;t act on such bullshit and get himself - or me -
    killed.

    In spite of the fact that YOU think I'm a bad guy, I have an excellent
    relationship with law enforcement to avoid any problems if they need to
    enforce something upon me.

    So, I am NOT going to be arrested. I am not going to be shut down.
    There's nothing you can do about it so go away.

    Hal Turner




    GRUMPY wrote:
    > YAWN THATS ALL BETTER WACT YOUR ASS WERE COMING AND I JUST GOT WORD
    > THE FBI JOINT TERRORIST TASK FORCE WILL BE THERE WITH A WARRENT ENJOY
    > YOUR HAPPY ASS IN JAIL ASSHOLE
    >
    > */Hal Turner Host@halturnershow.com>/* wrote:
    Yawn.
    GRUMPY wrote:
    Subject:BETTER HAVE A GOOD LAWYER HAL
    > > From:
    > > GRUMPY
    > > Date:
    > > Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:45:21 -0700 (PDT)
    To:HalTurnerShow@optonline.net

    To:HalTurnerShow@optonline.net
    BETTER HAVE A GOD FEDERAL LAWYER SIR I TURNED YOUR ASS IN THIS
    WEEK
    > > AFTER WE SCREEN SHOT EVERYTHIG YOU HAVE ON YOUR WEBSHOT . THINK
    IM
    > > KIDDING IM NOT !FURTHERMORE YOU HAVE BEEN HARRASSING OTHER
    RADIO
    > DJERS
    > > THERE SICK OF YOU AND WERE SICK OF YOU NOW IF YOU WATNT TO KNOW
    > WHAT
    > > WAS SAID CHECJ THIS LINK OUT ASSHOLE IM PRETTY SURE YOU WILL
    ENJOY
    > > YOUR SELF AND GUESS WHAT ASS YOU WONT BE GETTING SHUT DOWN
    EITHER
    > >
    > >
    http://www.haloscan.com/comments/lrn/__BlogItemNumber__/#46244

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  15. Fucking idiots. Nimbusters has gone nowhere. It can be found where it always was you just have to pull your head out of your fucking ass...

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  16. Whoa, whoa, whoa, time out please, Huxton. You have no evidence that Bill White is a liar. He simply jumped the gun and made his best guess based upon information he had at the time.

    The dying NSM is relentlessly smearing White because he had the stones to expose the polyglot mix of Satanists, pederasts, petty crooks, and whiggers infesting the organization. They can't stand the fact that the NSM reached unprecedented heights due to his influence. Take a look at Jim Ramm's misbegotten NukeIsrael site, if you can stomach it. Ramm posted a photoshopped caricature of White and falsely claims White is a Jew. Schoolyard tactics suitable for 5-year old brats, not for mature adults. NSM is finished - long live ANSWP!

    I'm not part of White's new org, but coming on an antifa forum and smearing a fellow WN plays right into the hands of the adversary. Constructively criticize him, yes. Call him a liar, uh-uh, unless you can supply proof.

    Oh, and Nikki, kindly deflate the balloons and put the champagne away. Alex Linder will find a way to get VNN back up - you can count on it. :-D

    signed,
    Another Proud VNN Forum Member

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  17. Vonbluvens cries about the constitution for himself but wants to eliminate jews, blacks and everyone else who disagrees with him. He cries he is for the 1st amendment but then is deletes out any post on his forum that his critical of him.

    A fucking hypocrite. It's what mental illness wil do to you. We all know Vonbluvens is severely mentally ill.

    With VNN being down, Vonbluvens has nowhere to spam.
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    To Tom Falater and his 24 nyms:

    I'm not going to TOS your site off of earthlink. In fact, I've never visited it. But don't lie and claim you can host sites. You can't. You're a nothing. Even your racist friends hate your guts as a mindless troll on alt.flame.niggers.

    In fact, your site is on a shared computer owned by earthlink.

    You're nothing but a former federal inmate who cries for attention. Since no one is giving you attention on a.f.n anymore, you've come here for attention.

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  18. lol! Now, what have I been saying about ole Hal? He's a lot more valuable to them running free than he would be locked up where he really belongs! Shades of Matt Hale all over again.

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  19. And...Anchorage - Bill White IS a liar. Don't you know that? Everyone else in the free world does. Everyone has EVIDENCE that Bill White is a liar - except for those who live with their head buried in the sand or some other unsavory place.

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  20. Oh lookie Schwartz finally gets the courage to come at me using his picture (damn boy you are ugly, kinda like a dickhead with ears). You really don't know a whole lot though, boy. Who was that federal inmate you claim I am? He's dead, died last year of a heart attack. I thought a crack private investigator like yourself would have known that. Next guess, please.

    For the record I have hosted a forum for certain groups in the past. On earthlink and on some space I have at Odinsrage.com I'd have done it for Alex but the stupid ass and his sock puppets won't guarantee me that he won't post death threats against certain judges. You'd love that wouldn't you Harry, to see Niggermania go down as well? I'm sure it would give you no end of chuckles.

    Nazis are almost as bad as liberals. At least they hate niggers, that is about the only good thing you can say about them.
    Attention? Oh I just like to rub my racism in the faces of certain useless liberals. Don't be a hater Harry.

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  21. Harry - frauds abound it would seem. Ya know, quite some time back I wrote an article entitled "I Have Freedom of Speech - So Shut the Hell Up." That is just about their speed.

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  22. Tom - the only "boy" I see in here is the one who thinks it makes him cool to use racial slurs in his avatar and shit in other people's houses. Your childish antics aren't too cute on a grown man. Funny - what is sometimes cute on a three-year-old is really repugnant on an adult.

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  23. AnchorageActivist said: "Whoa, whoa, whoa, time out please, Huxton. You have no evidence that Bill White is a liar."

    I have plenty of evidence. Bill White lied about the NSM being the cause for VNN's take-down, since he had NO PROOF that the NSM had done it. Now, he might have "thought" they'd done it, or "guessed" they'd done it, or "hoped" they'd done it, or "summoned demons forth that told him" they'd done it - but one thing he didn't have - PROOF that they'd done it. All along, it had been the Canadian government who'd been behind VNN's take-down. Only...idiot liar Bill White didn't know it, and so he tried to slip another fast one under the radar and further besmirch the NSM.

    Perhaps you're not familiar with the phrase, "a lie by omission". Bill White incessantly leaves out critical facts and details from his half-truth shenanigans, hoping his half-truth/half-lie will be swallowed hook, line, & sinker as a WHOLE TRUTH. That's his modus operandi, and it fools more idiots in the WN movement than there are niggers in Harlem.

    Ask Alex Linder himself. Ask him, "Hey Al, is Bill White a chronic, low-down, good-for-nothing liar?"

    Unless you're a hopeless moron, you'll be honest and admit what he would say to you.

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  24. Oh I am so sorry, dearest Nikki. Did 'ole Tom's avatar offend you. Oh my I simply must change it. Heaven forbid that Tom Shelly offend a hate the haters liberal.

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  25. Harry Schwartz lied:

    I'm not going to TOS your site off of earthlink. In fact, I've never visited it

    If you've never visited it then how do you know it's on Earthlink? Tell us another lie, Schwartz. You any realtion to Bill White? I mean hell all you Jews are related, right?

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  26. Why should Hal be locked up, Nikki? Give us some concrete examples of what you are talking about.

    You really should keep in mind what constitutes an opinion vs. a real threat.

    Schwartz does and continually lies. I am not for killing anyone. You may not like what we have to say but we DO HAVE A RIGHT TO SAY IT -at least for the time being.

    Private businesses do not have an obligation to protect freedom of speech, and I understand when they delete material that is offensive to them or their business-and I excercise that same right running my blog. Public accommodations is another matter. I and any other American has the right to voice our opinions (including what we think of other races) without some leftist/fascist boob telling us we are inciting riots or that we are disparaging other races.

    Where do you draw the line? Freedom of speech unless your words offend others? Bullshit.

    If you don't believe WN have a right to voice their opinions (regardless of how tasteless or horrible you think it is) then you DON'T BELIEVE IN FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Period.

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  27. Actually, VB - I think you are the last person who should question me about freedom of speech. Your hypocrisy has already been pointed out over and over.

    You know, when your rights violate my rights we have a problem. You think that you and others like you should be able to say anything without blowback - WRONG. It just doesn't work that way.

    Anyway - it looks as if Mr. Linder is going to be investigated:

    http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Local/2006/07/27/pf-1705978.html

    U.S. white supremacist calls for killing of Canadian officials

    By RANDY RICHMOND, LONDON FREE PRESS REPORTER


    Police in Missouri have launched an investigation into comments about killing Canadian officials made on a white supremacy website.

    “We have some letters from some people in Canada. We take these complaints seriously,” Jim Hughes, chief of Kirksville, Mo, police said today.

    Hughes would say little else, except that other law-enforcement agencies had been consulted.

    “It is too early to predict an outcome,” he noted.

    But, he added, the subject of the investigation is known to police.

    “I would just say I have met him.”

    The subject is white supremacy leader Alex Linder, who makes his home in Kirksville.

    Linder runs Vanguard News Network, a leading white supremacy website in the United States.

    Last week he posted a message on the site that said his organization would support the killing of Federal Court of Canada Justice Konrad W. von Finckenstein, members of the Canadian Human Rights Commission and Ottawa lawyer Richard Warman.

    "Killing Warman, 'judge' von Finckenstein, or any of the jews who make up the dictatorial 'human rights' council . . . would be a genuine act of patriotism," Linder declared.

    The Human Rights Commission and Warman alerted the Internet service provider that hosts the website and Kirksville police about Linder’s message and other threatening messages on his website.

    The Internet service provider pulled the plug on Linder’s website Thursday.

    Linder has not replied to requests for an interview.

    His Internet comments were made in response to the jailing two weeks ago of London white supremacist Tomasz Winnicki.

    Winnicki was sentenced to nine months in jail for refusing to obey a federal court order prohibiting him from spreading hate messages online.

    He was also found guilty in April of breaking the Canadian Human Rights Act by posting messages that likely expose people to hatred or contempt.

    Winnicki, who once bragged about being London’s “biggest hater,” filled the Internet with profanity laced attacks against minorities.

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  28. Jeff - Appreciate your response to the issues I raised. I noticed that Bill White uses a lot of hyperbole in his posting style.

    Still, the NSM really took off while he was there. And the relationship between Jeff Schoep and Cliff Herrington was ambiguous. If Herrington was the chairman, he should have been out front as the public figure, not Schoep. Heck, until a couple of weeks ago, I thought Herrington had retired and Schoep was the number one guy. Then I find out Herrington was giving orders behind the scenes. That looks awkward.

    If the NSM survives this (and I have serious doubts), they need a top-to-bottom overhaul.

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  29. VNN has been restored to partial service. Here's a press release Alex Linder posted to the main site


    (BEGIN RELEASE)
    Alex Linder on Shank Talk Worldwide, 7/27/06
    alps72706.mp3

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    28 July 2006

    Q. When will VNN return to normal?

    We expect to be back up in blog format in the next 24 hours (by the end of July 28). Should it take longer, we will update this static html page with fresh news and editorial. Keep checking!


    Q. Why did VNN go down?

    Our ISP had its T1 service cut by its supplier, apparently under pressure originating from Canada. Our ISP, Cable Bay Internet, had nothing to do with the site being taken down. In essence, the phone company cut service because it didn't like the content of the phone calls. As far as we know, this is the first instance of a telco subject to common-carrier provisions using its power to censor legal political opinion.


    Q. What are these Canadian reports about death threats?

    They are misrepresentations made by jew-owned newspapers based on lies spread by Richard Warman, an Ottawa lawyer whose possibly criminal postings under alias(es) at VNN Forum are currently under investigation. "VNN never advocates illegal actions and specifically carries disclaimers against any who choose to misinterpret our editorial material," said Alex Linder, editor. "Everything said on the radio show in question is legal under the First Amendment, as of course is all material posted on our front page." He added, "Wannabe thought police from banana republics were better advised to immigrate to the United States legally, and then attempt to rescind the First Amendment through legitimate democratic vote, than to carry on behind the scenes with criminal misrepresentations and corporate terrorism."


    Q. What about VNNForum? When is that coming back?

    VNNF will return sometime after the VNN blog is reset. However, the forum rules will be altered to enhance our activist mission.


    Q. Any final statement?

    VNN will continue to do everything in its power to inform the White West of the genocidal end the jews have planned for us. We're all Gazans, we just don't realize it yet. We will continue to speak up for the jailed honest men, whether Tomasz Winnicki in Canada, David Irving in Austria, or Germar Rudolf and Ernst Zundel in Germany.

    Contact:

    Alex Linder
    660 665 8210
    mailto:alinder@kvmo.net?subject=Media

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  30. I HOPE HAL TURNERS SHOW WEBPAGE IS NEXT ILL BUY LUNCH WHO EVER GET THAT ASSHOLE OFF THE AIR

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  31. Tom Falater,

    Your an idiot. It's real easy to tell if your site is hosted by earthlink without visiting it. It took me perhaps 20 seconds to find that out. All I had to do is to load one little program, type in your website and it came up with the details.

    Vonbluvens,

    Vonbluvens forgets his lies real easy. In 2005 Vonbluvens called for all Jews to be dead with his.... no jews alive in 2005. remember that one Blevins? You're such a liar. I know it's the mental illness that does it to you.

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  32. WTF, Bill White and VonNumbnuts leave the NSM and suddenly it's dying?

    LOL.

    BTW how come NOBODY ever talked about Bill's own views on Christianity (he's anti-CHRISTian) and his own relationship with the openly active Wiccan "guerilla photographer" Isis (who works for the SPLC)?

    Odd.

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  33. Bill is an Odinist which is a Pagan religion, as is Wicca.

    There is nothing wrong with Paganism, as it is much more closer to the human spirit that some dead jerk on the sticks.

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  34. Just admit it Schwartz your little world revolves around 'ole Tom Shelly. Oh hey Harry, how is your wife and Bill's mongrel daughter?

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  35. Hal kicks ass.

    Hal, again, why is my IP banned on the site? I am a paying supporter of your show yet I am banned from viewing the site except from an anonymous server!? Even though I can get in to the site that way, I still cannot listen to your shows on Wednesday nights!

    You made some kind of mistake or banned a whole range of IP's that took me out as well!

    I never crossed you in any way and have been a supporter for YEARS to your show!


    --------------- HAL TURNER RESPONDS:

    You are BANNED from my site and show because you posted the following comment:

    BigMike Hal, just shut the fucker down once and for all! It's old hearing the same bitching and moaning from you over and over. I'm sure someone else will step up somewhere and take your place. You have to stop blaming everyone else for your failures here. This is your thing! You want an audience then its up to you to keep us! You cannot expect anyone to throw tons of money at you when there really is no hard proof of expenses! You can say anything you want about your costs. Someone out here will always know of another like show who is paying way less. Not only that but you're way too inconsistent in the way you do business. You had no show last night as you were pouting about funds. What about the people who did in fact send you money, they all lost out and got nothing for something! Hal, give it up and go back to your day job. You're just too emotional and unstable to do something like this. Someone else will eventually step in to your place.

    06.30.06 - 3:36 pm
    IP: 68.234.149.117


    So, seeing as you consider $5 or $10 a month to be "throwing tons of money at me" ANd seeing as you claim "someone else will come astep up to take my place," why don't you go find that someone else and stay the hell off my site? That is what ungrateful and smartass people like you get. Now go away.
    HT

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  36. You're still pretending to be Tom Shelly, "Tom"? Why don't you just go back to Tightrope and stop spamming these people?

    .. oh yeah, you were banned from that forum for being an asshole, I forgot.

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  37. A pussy said...
    I HOPE HAL TURNERS SHOW WEBPAGE IS NEXT. I'LL BUY LUNCH FOR WHO EVER GETS THAT ASSHOLE OFF THE AIR.

    we thought hairy ass schwartzie was our only resident cock sucker and now you want to suck hal's cock.

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  38. Tom Shelley (AKA Tom Falater [absolute PSYCHO]) was involved with Nikki (who was also incarcerated for mail fraud) and they have a child named Poppy. What's up with that one, Nikki?

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  39. http://cuckyboy.741.com/

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