Wednesday, July 05, 2006

GELLAR IS DEFINITELY NOT STELLAR

Photo by Isis

As if Hal Turner and Michael Blevins are not enough, there is yet another purveyor of hate out their on the internet airwaves. True enough, he has a very limited listener ship and a very low-key presence within the rank and file. Apparently, he wants to change all of that – understandably.

A couple of weeks ago when both Tony Willow and Floyd Cochran called in to the Hal Turner Show – Paul Gellar sent an email to Citizens Against Hate requesting that both Tony and Floyd be guests on his show. Quite honestly, we had never given much thought to Gellar as he just seemed to be another racist full of hot air filling up one of the Turner Radio Network time-slots.

After listening to a couple of his shows and discussing the pros and cons of such an appearance, both Floyd and Tony decided against giving him any more recognition than he already had. That decision was based upon the fact that 1) Gellar was obviously attempting to bolster his numbers; 2) He appears to be another narcissistic entity who is very impressed with himself; 3) It was pretty apparent that Gellar lacked a general understanding those opposed to racism and that it would only give him an opportunity to further castigate us and our associates; and 4) They were not interested in assisting him do any of those things..

This past week, Gellar decided to dedicate most of his show to the lambasting of Tony and Floyd – especially Floyd. Gellar had earlier claimed that he had a list of questions that he wanted anti’s to address and as he decided to go through these questions on the air – it became patently obvious that he didn’t have a clue as to what Citizens Against Hate, Tony Willow, or Floyd Cochran were all about. His lack of knowledge was so transparent as to make us all wonder if he had even bothered to do even a modicum of research – or had he just stereotyped anti-racists and ASSUMED that this is what we do? Actually, it was pretty funny at times – and absolutely, positively demonstrative of the fact that Paul Gellar is without any basic understanding of us and what we do. As Bill White is a man without a country – Paul Gellar is a mouth without a clue.

Gellar seems to have picked up a new buzz phrase – sensitivity training – and he applies it, erroneously to everyone who works in the area of anti-racism, evidently. We are all trainers in sensitivity. Hence he ponders whether he should call himself or his show, “Insensitivity Tainting Central” since he, in his words, is training people to be insensitive.

Now… I told Gellar on the Nikki & Tony Show that would address him shortly, so I am going to speak directly to him on some of these issues.

First, I doubt very seriously, Paul, that you are “training” anyone to be anything. In order to do such, you must captivate your audience – something which you simply do not do. Your shows are dry, boring, and offered without any radio presence at all. Secondly, no one listens to you. In a 67 minute show where you encouraged people to call in incessantly, you had one call. One. Apparently, you believe yourself to be a lot more important that you are.

Your first question for anti-racists was sophomoric and almost moronic. “Do you hate hatred?” I know you are trying to establish an aura of hypocrisy within the anti-racist movement. So…let me try to make this very clear. I don’t HATE anyONE. I may hate your message. I may hate the words that you choose to use. I may hate your ideology, but that doesn’t mean that I hate YOU. There is a major difference between hating an idea or an intangible – and hating a person or a group of people. Of course, you have to be able to engage in a macrocosmic view of the world to understand that.

You then ask since we believe that the best way to fight racism is with words, are we sad that so few have called your show or Hal Turner’s to put us in our place. Well, first let me say that we are glad to hear that you recognize us as the non-violent group that we certainly are and have been. In answer to your question, the only thing that I am sad about is that there is a need for groups like ours. A head-on confrontation with you over the internet airwaves is not something that a lot of people want to engage in. Generally speaking the only time that we feel the need to call in to shows like Hal Turner is when we believe that a point needs to made or that something needs to be cleared up. We do a lot of community outreach and that is where our focus stays most of the time. It’s not like we hang on every repetitive word that you guys utter.

Another thing that needs to be addressed is this delusion that you seem to be under that we are “depressed that our websites aren’t as popular as racist sites.” Unlike the racists and anti-Semitic people out there, we do not measure our success by the number of hits that a website receives or the number of posts on a message board. We realize, as you apparently don’t, that hits tell us nothing about those viewing a webpage or site. For your own edification, Paul, many of the “hits” that racist sites receive come from anti-racists and curiosity seekers.

I am going to combine a couple of your questions here, since several of them overlap. You ask if it is “wrong” for whites to have their own meetings or rallies and is it “okay” to harbor racist thoughts privately. How silly. This is an opinion question that can only be answered on a personal level. Determining what is right and wrong for any given individual is certainly nothing that anyone can do with any certainty. Additionally, this line of questioning only establishes your ignorance about what we do and what we are all about.

Citizens Against Hate fights and exposes hate GROUPS and the individuals within those groups who attempt to further their agenda of racism, bigotry, anti-Semitism and other forms of prejudice. We do not “police” the thoughts of those in the general public, however, we do not remain silent when those thoughts become words or actions. There aren’t many of us who really don’t care if you are privately racist or wish to be separate from a mainstream multicultural society. We probably prefer to be separate from you. The gloves come off when that agenda is furthered through events such as rallies and meetings in an effort to persuade others that racism is acceptable, when you attempt to recruit members within our communities and neighborhoods, when you target the minds of our youth with what we consider offensive, or when you proffer an agenda that reeks of oppression and white supremacy. Again…it’s not you – it’s your message. It’s not that it is “wrong” for you to have meetings and rallies so much as it is “wrong” for hate speech to be shouted at the masses simply because you can. We oppose those who attempt to incite violence through meetings, rallies, one-on-one contacts, or the internet.

It didn’t take long in your litany of hackneyed and na├»ve questioning before you had worked yourself into an almost nonsensical barrage against Floyd Cochran and, once again, it became clear that you know nothing about Mr. Cochran. Suggesting that African-American people often refer to themselves as “lazy and stupid,” you then characterize Mr. Cochran as someone who rushes to the rescue in an effort to “straighten out their thinking.” You indicate that the African – American resents this, thinking “here comes Whitey with his sensitivity training.”

Mr. Gellar, Floyd Cochran is a lecturer and educator – not a “social worker” or a “sensitivity trainer.” Mr. Cochran speaks to groups of mixed ethnicity and he speaks to them about hate groups. He relates his experiences while both in the Klan and in the Aryan Nations. He discusses the mindset of the group. He speaks to the dangers, both physical and emotional to becoming a member of such a group. He tells of recruiting practices and what to watch for in communities and with out youth. He does not, I repeat, does not engage in sensitivity training in any way other than what could be considered a vicarious understanding of what is implicit in a successful multicultural society.

In your long and tiresome harangue against Mr. Cochran, you demonstrated not only that you had never heard Mr. Cochran speak or who his audience is comprised of, but that, much like others on the racist right – you just made assumptions and an ass out of yourself.

You continue by asking Floyd if he gets a “euphoric high” or “LSD flash backs,” or if he “meets chicks” doing what he is doing in an effort to determine his motive. You quickly exclaim that the same could be asked about you. Later you tell us that your motive is that you want more people to think like you. You claim that you want to reach a political tipping point where we all can become white nationalists. You say, “I am kind of like a virus in a sense – I want to spread our thinking among fellow whites so we can secure our territory for ourselves and become a political power instead of the secretive, sneaking around outsiders.”

Well, Mr. Gellar, I cannot speak for Floyd Cochran but I can tell you that you just verbalized what makes us tick – what energizes us – and what our motivation is. It is all about stopping you from ever reaching that “tipping point.” You are right, Coca Cola and IBM do not wish to advertise on the Turner Radio Network. They want absolutely no part of any of that. However, while claiming that such corporations “love a Floyd Cochran,” while speculating that he might just be a scam artist flipping from one end of the spectrum to the other and stating that a person such as that is “shallow,” is quite ingenuous on your part – especially when one of the current leaders of the movement is Bill White who has run the gamut.

Further, you speak of aesthetics while comparing “beautiful white women” to “ugly squat mestizo’s.” Now, I really don’t care about your taste or preference in women, but I do believe that you are “aesthetically challenged.” You speak of “shallow” individuals and then you demonstrate how that label fits you as you snicker and make a feeble attempt to bait Mr. Cochran. I don’t know how old you are, Mr. Gellar – but you remind me of a school boy who is attempting to speak of grown up things yet lacks the sophistication to do so. I know that you cannot help but agree that not all white women are beautiful. Well, not all Hispanic women are “ugly and squat.” In mainstream society, Paul, there is always going to be “preference.” Some like blondes, some like brunettes and some prefer redheads. There are those who like big-busted women and others who are more into the Twiggy look. That’s “preference.” And…that’s okay. Also in mainstream society, however, not everything is black, white, and brown. What a narrow and uninteresting world yours must be.

Lastly, your assertion that we are in this for the money was the biggest laugh I got out of that show. You really DO need to do some homework, Paul. You suggest that Floyd Cochran get a “real job” like a mechanic. What makes you think he doesn’t have another job? Are you sure that he doesn’t? And even if he doesn’t – don’t you think maybe the same thing could be asked about Hal Turner who sits back and depends on the money sent in by hard-working white nationalists?

Mr. Gellar, the rest of the questions raised by you dealing with crime, Hal Turner’s rally in Kingston, New York, differences in abilities according to race, hate crimes, and Matt Hale have all been done to death. You really do need to get some new material or save it those for anti’s who haven’t been around very long.

I would further suggest that in the future, if you are going to speak about one of us, or even about us collectively, that you, at the very least, learn something about us first. Before you start making wild claims about anti-racists or Citizens Against Hate, it would probably make you look a lot more informed if you took the time to know your enemy – and we are your enemy.

It’s one thing to try to pass yourself off as a right-wing, racist, talk show wannabe – but quite another to say “The best way to do social work is through mass sterilization.” Perhaps we should start with you.

11 comments:

  1. Wow, Gellar is still around, huh? I'm glad he figured out how to get big quick in the movement is to use the movement's favorite little mocking bird, Nikki Nicole. Good save. If I ever feel the popularity of my show declining, I'll just do one attacking CAH or OPP. I'd do a special one attacking DLJ but I don't want the guy's from the Oreo company after me for attacking their new spokesman. Actually, personal attacks aren't my style. Its too easy to do and I think it makes the attacker look tacky and cheap. Anyone who knows me, knows that I'm all style and function. Where the other guys have to get by on brains, I do it all on looks, carisma, wit and force of personality. I'll never be the next Commander Rockwell, let alone Hitler, but the guy to replace me will be no Christopher Drake. My dreams of glory pretty much fall off after imagining my friends seeing me bench 325 by the end of the summer! What were we talking about again? Oh yeah, Gellar. Good luck with your show, tuff guy. I'll probably listen to it to hear what you say in response to this article.

    And to the "lightening radio" guy who was on here saying I was somehow doing a hate-crime against him: no, I won't come post on your blog or message board, weirdo. Why the hell would I want to drive your readership up? I'm only giving back to CAH the noteriety help give to me.

    and to the CAH staff--"booga-booga!!" Go write an article about that!

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  2. Drake said...
    " Anyone who knows me, knows that I'm all style and function. Where the other guys have to get by on brains, I do it all on looks, carisma, wit and force of personality."

    Now, that was pretty funny!

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  3. I have met Mr. Gellar--nice guy, actually.

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  4. They won't go on Gellars show? They always try hard as Hell to get on NSM Presents.

    We won't allow Tony Shallow to be on our show pretty much for similar reasons give in this article about my friend Paul.

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  5. Nikki- I think what Chris is trying to tell you is that he wants you to do a story on HIM.

    He sees that the all time WN Weenie: Gellar has CAH blog space and he wants it too!

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  6. Dead on!

    Nikki,

    I thought you'd appreciate me saying I was all sytle and technique rather than brains! In my opinion, the message is so simple I don't need pretend to be smart to convey it! Of course, our opinions spit on that point. Anyhow look, I'll prove I'm not out to play intellectual. See if you can spot it.

    Chistopher Drake

    PS, for now on I'm listening to the Paul Gellar show. If he's big time enough to get on CAH (the movement's favorite tabloid source for Nazi-rockstar-icon news) then he's big time enough to get my attention. Next time we do Iron Sights, I'm going to say he was the "victim of a viscious commie attack by CAH" too. That will prop him up even higher.

    Von, what's his main deal anyhow? Mona mostly does the holocau$t thing and then you have the CI stuff and Metzger, what he into? I mean, whats he into besides looking like a Christian Youth Camp director? (I assume the effect he was shooting for).

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  7. I asked DLJ to be on my show not too long ago. He never got back to me on it. Why DLJ? He's the only one who I consider not to be a traitor in one form or another. Sure. I'll argue with him on my time. Anyhow, it would have probably caused a big stink anyway for one reason or another even though I'm the USA's Nazi super-man, redneck, pirate-viking type and he's the global commie super-fly. I didn't plan on engaging in personal attacks on the show either, however, I did plan to call him a jigga-boo or jungle-bunny towards the end. I never decided on which one as I was thinking of the show topics.

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  8. You know, Chris, you really do have an undeveloped talent for comical writing.

    Too bad you're wasting yourself and your talents in the NSM.

    Advice: drop the Nazi bullshit and go straight. Develop your talent in the same way that a Jim Goad or some other uncompromising writer has, and I promise you'll be alot better off.

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  9. Un-fucking-believable:


    "Tonight on
    The Hal Turner Show:
    With New Jersey's government officially shut down, should I invade Trenton with armed men, attack and destroy the existing, penniless and failed political entity and install myself as Governor?
    The State Police only have 3,000 Troopers and they can be easily outnumbered and outgunned. . . .
    With NJ Casinos reporting losses of $20 Million per DAY since being closed by the state "shut down," do you think they might fund such a venture?"--www.halturnershow.com

    I don't know whether to laugh or groan.

    Is this man not in need of thorazine and a straight-jacket?

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  10. Nope! I'm NS until the end (car bomb)! Hell, probably. The Chairman reported the recent car bomb attempt to the police and a lot of folks in the WN community as well as the antis said it was a hoax. So with that being said, if I see a car bomb on my car, I'm going to get all my CDs, set them on the grass and crank it up anyway. Since everyone would think I was lying if I called the bomb squad, what other choice would I have? And why my CDs on the grass? So all my friends will have them since they seem to want them so badly. Actually, screw the theives! They'll go up with me and I will listen to them in the halls of Valhalla (unless someone there already has them)!

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  11. Anonymous said...
    Un-fucking-believable:


    "Tonight on
    The Hal Turner Show:
    With New Jersey's government officially shut down, should I invade Trenton with armed men, attack and destroy the existing, penniless and failed political entity and install myself as Governor?
    The State Police only have 3,000 Troopers and they can be easily outnumbered and outgunned. . . .
    With NJ Casinos reporting losses of $20 Million per DAY since being closed by the state "shut down," do you think they might fund such a venture?"--www.halturnershow.com

    I don't know whether to laugh or groan.

    Is this man not in need of thorazine and a straight-jacket?


    Give Hal a KEVLAR straight jacket and a shot of Jack Daniels! It sounds like he's going to take over New Jersey! "Hand Grenade" Hal and "Blood and Guts" Gellar and going to show you all how to Terrorize and Balkanize! The NJ National Guard will come out and Hal will leap onto the lead tank, yank the TC out with one arm and take charge! Next Paul Gellar will lead a horse-calvery charge across the New Jersey Desert straight into the enemy infantry. He'll hack his way through them on horseback, all the while inspiring his men. Then a skinhead dude will shoot down a helicopter with a bow and arrow because he's a convicted fellon and not allowed to have guns. After that, they'll send Hal's old special forces commander out to try and talk him down. Will he have any effect on Hal as he speaks to him of loyalty and sacrifice? Will Hal and his army lay down their arms and head back to Hal's house to smoke cigars? Will Hal disregard the words of his old war companion and go all the way? Will ZOG assasinate his old commander right as Hal was about to give up? Will Gellar fast rope through the capitol building ceiling just in time to tell Hal, "Hal, IT'S A TRAP!!" Tune in to the Hal Turner network and find out!

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