Thursday, January 19, 2006

Damages for a Travesty

These are the four creeps who thought they would have a little fun at the expense of a mentally handicapped African-American man. The Southern Poverty Law Center is attempting to extract some financial justice for their actions. Below, is an article from the SPLC depicting what happened and what they are trying to accomplish.

TO THE ORIGINAL ARTICLE

Center seeks damages for injured man



December 16, 2005 | LINDEN, Texas -- Center attorneys in September filed a lawsuit seeking damages for Billy Ray Johnson, a mentally disabled black man knocked unconscious and left on a roadside by four young white men.
Johnson, 42 at the time of the incident, had the mental capacity of a 12-year-old. On September 28, 2003, he was brought to a "pasture party" to serve as the night's entertainment. Pickups were backed up to a bonfire as partygoers taunted Johnson. They got him to dance a jig around the fire, and someone tried to get him to pick up a burning log, witnesses said.

One of the young men punched Johnson in the head and knocked him unconscious. Instead of taking Johnson to the hospital, the men dumped him into the back of a pickup truck and left him by the side of a remote rural road.

Johnson suffered serious brain injuries, and he'll never fully recover. But the Cass County, Texas, juries that heard the cases against two of the defendants, Christopher Colt Amox, who was 20 at the time of the assault, and James Cory Hicks, then 24, acquitted them of serious felony charges and instead handed down lesser convictions, with a recommended sentence of probation.

The two other defendants, Dallas Chadwick Stone, then 18, and John Wesley Owens, then 19, were allowed to plead guilty to an "injury to a disabled individual by omission" charge and testified against Amox and Hicks.

A judge in May sentenced Owens, Stone and Amox to 30-day terms in the county jail and Hicks to 60 days.

"It's hard to think what should make your blood boil more -- what happened to Billy Ray or what didn't happen to those who abused him," said Center chief trial counsel Morris Dees. "It's something we can't ignore."

The lawsuit, filed in Cass County District Court here, alleges that the four defendants, plus Lacy Dorgan, the girlfriend of one of them who was present during the party, are liable for assault and negligence, among other things, in the case.

Johnson, who had no criminal background or history of violence or trouble of any kind, lived with his mother and brother before the assault. Now he is in a Texarkana nursing home with permanent brain damage. He tells visitors that he wants to go home, but that's not possible without costly special assistance.

Owens was the host of the party, which was held on his father's property. He picked up Johnson at a nearby convenience store and drove him to the gathering.

Hicks was a Cass County jailer at the time of the incident. He encouraged others at the party to hit Johnson and later discouraged the others from getting the unconscious victim medical attention. Stone told Johnson to leave the party before the "KKK comes and gets you," according to court testimony.

Amox punched Johnson in the face, knocking him to the ground unconscious. Just before Amox slugged Johnson, Stone knocked a beer can out of Johnson's hand and urged Amox to hit him, witnesses said.

Rather than use their cell phones to call for an ambulance or take Johnson immediately to a hospital, the partygoers drank beer and debated what to do with him. After an hour or so, they put him in the back of a truck to keep from getting his blood on the cloth seats of a car and deposited his body on the side of the road.

"Rarely in my 45 years as a civil rights lawyer have I been so angry about an injustice as I am about what happened to Billy Ray Johnson," Dees said.

47 comments:

  1. Nikki,

    As soon as White people ‘mistreat’ a black person there are cries of ‘racism.’

    Remember, this a local issue ROH so no protesting.

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  2. Aw...geez, Stefan. The man is mentally handicapped with the mind of a 12 year-old!

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  3. Nikki,

    I think this whole endless discussion has demonstrated how all sides have bastardized the involvement of race with crime.

    I feel sorry for this man and do think it is an issue worth protesting.

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  4. AWWW! Poor retarded monkey! No mo' bananas!

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  5. Texas88sniper brings up a good point,

    If someone is as severely retarded as this man then would it be fair to classify him as a human being? I mean, it is intelligence that separates us from the monkeys, something this man has little of. I believe a full grown average Chimp will have a mental capacity of an 8 year old.

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  6. So...are you suggesting that those with diminished intelligence are less than human? Is someone with the mentality of a 12 year old, say, not a viable human being?

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  8. In a way, yes

    Lack of intelligence is what we use to justify the killing of various animals and so this can be applied to ‘humans’ in general if their mental development is that of an animal (notice, I am saying that normal 8 year olds are exempt since their developing at a normal rate and will become ‘human’ in the sense of intelligence).

    What other category besides intelligence separates us from animals. Can you think of one?

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  9. Stefan says...
    Lack of intelligence is what we use to justify the killing of various animals and so this can be applied to ‘humans’ in general if their mental development is that of an animal (notice, I am saying that normal 8 year olds are exempt since their developing at a normal rate and will become ‘human’ in the sense of intelligence).

    What other category besides intelligence separates us from animals. Can you think of one?

    I think that the idea of "intelligence" separating us is rather simplistic. There is much more involved. Intelligence is but one form of mental processes that set us apart from the animal kingdom. Yet, even those in the animal kingdom can lay claim to intelligence.

    There are many other factors to be considered - emotions, feelings, etc.

    Is the 8 year-old figure that you are using an arbitrary one or is there some reason that you have chosen it?

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  10. Is the 8 year-old figure that you are using an arbitrary one or is there some reason that you have chosen it?
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    I said in my previous post: *I believe a full grown average Chimp will have a mental capacity of an 8 year old.*

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    There are many other factors to be considered - emotions, feelings, etc.
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    These are all aspects of intelligence (controlled by the neo-cortex). There have been documented cases where people have sustained severe trauma to the frontal lobe of their brains and following their recoveries have displayed a complete change in temperament.

    Emotionality is a bit overrated. People who are emotive in general are usually idealists.

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  11. Well...I disagree with you in that emotionality is overrated. I tend to go along with the characteristics of emotions held by numerous acadamecians in this area. Pascual F. Martínez-Freire, broke it down thusly:

    *emotions are typically conscious phenomena; yet
    *they typically involve more pervasive bodily manifestations than other conscious states;
    *they vary along a number of dimensions: intensity, type and range of intentional objects, etc.
    *they are reputed to be antagonists of rationality; but also
    *they play an indispensable role in determining the quality of life;
    *they contribute crucially to defining our ends and priorities;
    they play a crucial role in the regulation of social life;
    *they protect us from an excessively slavish devotion to narrow conceptions of rationality;
    *they have a central place in moral education and the moral life.

    Clearly, euthanisa or even the practice of Eugenics is an ethical dilemma and has been explored on numerous occasions. I am not being merely oppositional here - I have seen the families with children who were in the vegetative state and have witnessed the hardships. I have also marvelled at the devotion, stamina, and even the blind hope that many of these parents had.

    That being said, I have also been privileged to know those who were the parents of children with Downs Syndrome, and other mentally handicapping conditions. Many of these children have grown into viable and functional adults.

    Accordingly, Billy Ray Johnson reportedly had the mental capacity of a 12 year old at the age of 42. A twelve-year-old can generally function fairly well in society.

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  12. Stefan Shmidt,

    I regret to inform you that I have now COMPLETELY lost ALL respect for you...

    Are you suggesting that we cold-bloodedly dispose of people who are deemed "inferior"?

    Everyone is inferior to someone in the sense of social stratification.

    Stop suggesting we play GOD with individuals and their lives. Everyone has a place and purpose, and everyone will wear someone else's shoes at some point in their lives.

    This sort of thinking makes me ill. Some of my favorite students to work with are the S.E. Students.

    We have lost any sense of decency in this society when grown men suggest euthenizing the mentally handicapped. Obviously, and regrettably, the roots of our Christian civilization have dwindled to the point where such odious opinions can be aired without substantial repercussions.

    No. I most certainly DO NOT want to "rid" society of those who are weak or afflicted. Quite the contrary, I would rid society of the vulgar, depraved, the heartlessly cruel, the shit-disturbers, or those who cannot appreciate the basic goodness and decency of existence.

    I dream of a return to civility. I dream of a return to basic standards and styles. I dream of a return to the idea that it is the responsibility of a Christianized person to care for the afflicted, to educate and uplift the ignorant, and to defend the defenseless.

    A return to hornor, duty, and a sense of shame.

    I find your suggestion to be highly offensive and disgusting--you discredit yourself, and you prove that young people are going to have to be taught a better understanding of the old axiom, "There but for the grace of GOD, go I".

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  13. Stefan Schmidt said...

    Nikki,

    As soon as White people ‘mistreat’ a black person there are cries of ‘racism.’

    Remember, this a local issue ROH so no protesting.

    If your trying to compare this with Kingston then you're way off the mark. When the court system allows violent crimminals to go free with less than a slap on the wrist it's definatly a national issue.

    As far as violence in Kingston if you have a mind to protest than protest violence(period)

    But you know as well as I do that those so called protest where for one purpose and one purpose only. It was a publicity move for the lier, the nut and the NSM, neither which could care less than a dime about the citizens.

    Far too many in the so calle white nationalsit movement have warped attitudes such as this texas88sniper idiot.

    stefen said...
    I feel sorry for this man and do think it is an issue worth protesting.

    If you feel that way about a retarded black man who was victimized how can you possible support nuts like Bill White, Hal Turner and the NSM?

    And then on top of that turn around and try to declassify the man as human based on his deficency in intellect.

    If that is the case than where is the cut off point? At what IQ level does humanity begin?
    According to Bill White more than 95% of the population in this country is subhuman because only a fraction as he claims measures up to his level of intellect.

    And don't even try to compare Black folks to chimps and apes. That just goes to shows you've never seen one with the fur shaved off their faces.

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  14. Are you suggesting that we cold-bloodedly dispose of people who are deemed "inferior"?
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    No, but my post was ambiguous so the misunderstand is my fault.

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    Everyone is inferior to someone in the sense of social stratification.
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    We are talking about intelligence here; the animals have us beat at physical prowess.

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    Some of my favorite students to work with are the S.E. Students.
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    I was S.E. for a while in elementary school (PDD).

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    I find your suggestion to be highly offensive and disgusting--you discredit yourself, and you prove that young people are going to have to be taught a better understanding of the old axiom, "There but for the grace of GOD, go I".
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    Again I feel sorry for the guy. If I was on the Jury I would have pressed for 10 to 20 years in jail. I was suggesting, however, for us to closely evaluate our priorities. Maybe punishing the perpetuators will not be beneficial for society since the victim was a drain on society in the first place. I also would advocate couples to produce offspring with the aid of a geneticist so no children like him or me have to be born ever again.

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  15. Stefan, there are those within the racist movement who WOULD advocate ridding the world of individuals who do not meet their criteria of intellectual ability. I have spoken with several of them, as a matter of fact.

    The very idea that one race is superior to another brings with it the idea that maintaining the gene pool is imperative. How do you feel about mandatory sterilization for those who are below normal intelligence?

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  16. If your trying to compare this with Kingston then you're way off the mark. When the court system allows violent crimminals to go free with less than a slap on the wrist it's definatly a national issue.

    As far as violence in Kingston if you have a mind to protest than protest violence(period)
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    You can protest violence as well, but what I am pointing out is your hypocrisy. You denied the notion that the beating of Robby could be race related but now in this incident you claim it to be definitely so. Thanks for proving my point for me about the double standard present in American society.

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    If that is the case than where is the cut off point? At what IQ level does humanity begin?
    According to Bill White more than 95% of the population in this country is subhuman because only a fraction as he claims measures up to his level of intellect.

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    I will be surprised if Bill has an IQ greater than 120. Anyways, I am not advocating Euthanasia, simply more prefect children in the future.

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    And don't even try to compare Black folks to chimps and apes. That just goes to shows you've never seen one with the fur shaved off their faces.

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    I do not know if you meant that last sentence to be a joke (especially about shaved ‘chimps’) or are highly defensive about your appearance. Come on ROH, Chimps have feelings too!

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  17. Nikki,

    I try to divorce myself from my emotions as much as possible. Emotion has and continues to hurt to me.

    I would be constantly depressed and most probably not existent if I embraced my emotions.

    In addition, I have never obtained so many interesting perspectives when empathy is replaced with apathy towards all livings form that coexist with me. I have to say I am not entirely successful as of yet but I am slowly reaching my utopian state.

    The world has no place for emotions since your conscience will tear you apart with all the inconsistencies and hypocrisies that are present in your fellow man.

    The only way to a carefree existence is to rationalize away your conscience and finally to exist with out such a burden.

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  18. Nikki,

    Sterilization is the most humane solution to rid ourselves of genetic deficiencies.

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  19. Stefan, I am deeply sorry that you have experienced so much pain in your life. I fear that the state that you refer to as "Utopian" will be one, not of bliss, but of coldness and catatonic existence. To be alive is to feel...to sense...to laugh, cry, and groan with your pain. I cannot imagine life without emotion. The same Utopia that you seek can be induced with Thorazine or one of the deriviatives.

    You said...

    The world has no place for emotions since your conscience will tear you apart with all the inconsistencies and hypocrisies that are present in your fellow man.

    I find that sad and at the same time telling. When did you become involved in this whole racist movement? Why?

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  20. Stefan, let me clue you in on something--the world will NEVER be perfect.
    The human body will ALWAYS, in the end, sicken and die.
    Everyone who was ever born, has died--soem tragically, some young, some old. Most didn't see it coming, or welcomed the release.
    No human body is perfect. The most fascinating people in history, I find, are those "misfits" who, despite being born with a seemingly-insurmountable social handicap, manage to survive nonetheless,a nd even prosper. Among my favorite reading is book by a man named Frederick Drimmer called VERY SPECIAL PEOPLE--about the historu of deformity, and the sideshow. There have been people who walked this earth that dared not show their face in public due to shock, outrage, and mockery. And yet they SURVIVED, lived, and prospered.

    We are not here to achieve PERFECTION. We didn't start with it, don't live with it, and won't die having attained it. We are here because Spirit could not accept us--our souls--the way we are. So here we remain, until, finally, we can go back into that Great Oneness again.

    I don't know, specifically, what your condition (PDD) is, but I know this: someone is suffering something worse, somewhere. I am often embittered because I stand too short for my own liking, but alas...Life is not cooked up to fit a particular mold. It is given to us to make the best that we can of it.

    The only solution for feeling so troubled, as you seem to (you suggested you wished you were never born), is to look at the greater picture of things. In the end, nothing, not even material existence, will last,a nd everything returns to the same source.

    So I don't look at a mentally-handicapped person, or a deformed person, and scoff. Instread, I realize (and you should too) that they are simply living out their own personal walk on this earth, and, finally, we all will return to the same place anyway.

    The ONLY SIN is hating and mis-treating your fellow man, and giving into the dark or negative energy that comprises this living world.

    Sigh.

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  21. The World of Matter is evil, transitory, and in a constant state of decay; the World of Spirit is pure, perfect, eternal, and wholley good.

    The flesh WILL fail you, but Spirit will NEVER fail you; only YOU can fail to fully embrace Spirit.

    The alternative is the never-ending cycle of Illusion, death, pain, rebirth, suffering, hatred, and torment.

    That is why the "Peddlers of Hate" must be stopped. They continue to create the illusion of division amongst people, when, in reality, as Paul stated, we are "..Of the same Spirit".

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  22. Everretts,

    I don't know, specifically, what your condition (PDD) is
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    PDD is a minor form of Autism. Besides being socially dysfunctional it carries really no adverse effects.

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    you suggested you wished you were never born
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    Not really, I suggested that society should rid the world of people like me. But, the fact that I have not committed suicide is an indicator that I am content with my life.

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    The ONLY SIN is hating and mis-treating your fellow man, and giving into the dark or negative energy that comprises this living world.
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    Divorcing myself of emotionality means divorcing myself of hate.

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  23. Mr. Shmidt,

    "Divorcing" yourself from emotionality does not mean you divorce yourself from hate; you simply substitute humane feelings for cold-blooded ones.

    No Void was ever satisfied by occupying a finite space; emptiness, amazingly, tends to grow and increase exponentially, until, finally, it eats up everything in its path.

    Most of the sociopaths sitting on death row divorced themselves from emotionality as well; their need for emotional stimulation was, typically, met at someone else's expense.

    IT simply doesn't work that way; you are not a body occupied by a consciousness--you are CONSCIOUSNESS that happens to be imprisoned in a human shape.

    In the end, emotional nihilism leads to the same dead-end as overwhelming angst. You will never find satisfaction in eiher state.

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  24. Mr. Shmidt said:
    "Sterilization is the most humane solution to rid ourselves of genetic deficiencies."

    Mr Brevard replies:
    Inconsistent with the fubdamentally flawed nature of existence--you will NEVER weed out imperfection, deviation, and abnormality altogther. Even a seemingly-normal person can have a monster lurking within.

    But tell me: how would you go about deciding who is a fit candidate to procreate? Who would make these decisions?

    On what specific criteria would this decision be based?

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  25. Nikki,

    I am afraid I can not define a ‘static’ point in history for you. I do not feel myself to be a racist but alas you will disagree.

    There is a form of resignation, however, when you see the truth (Just like people who come to the realization of their own mortality).

    The realization, that when I look in the mirror I do not see a human being anymore. I have metamorphosed into something else entirely. Much of the time I have to stare and squint before I can see the human instead of a blob of flesh anymore. All human beings souls can be simplified into a binary program of self preservation and self gratification. To an extent, I believe that human emotions that pertain to their fellow man are a social versus a biological construct.

    We, the egomaniacs, believe that there is some creator out (in our appearance off course) there who will invite our ‘souls’ to a place of cloudy bliss.

    All reality comes from within the brain, and not from without. I cannot be positive that you exist, that I am typing this right now. Maybe I am hallucinating. We all live within ourselves, and not outside of ourselves.

    Do I have a purpose in life? Probably not, except if you count using up oxygen and energy as a purpose. If, there is a purpose to my existence, then I am almost afraid of what that could be.

    Going back to WN, I can not tell you why for that I do not know myself. There are invisible forces pulling me in some direction and so I have decided to ‘let go’ and let them lead me down a ‘yellow brick road.’

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  26. Uh-huh, well. I would be cautious. Those "invisible forces" may simply be taking you for a helluva ride.

    Otherwise, you must realize your personal philosophy is DIAMETRICALLY opposed to your racial viewpoint. I, too, believe in the illusory nature of reality, that instead it is a trap, or prison, for consciousness. But,you see, this NEGATES the importance of racial differences, as we are all simply manifestations of the same Universal Consciousnes to which we all, in the end, return.

    How can you be a racist and believe THAT at the same time?

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  27. Everrets,

    Human beings are a machine, and souls are inexistent. Then it becomes a game, which machine is more fit to use the resources and which ones should be removed so the better fit machines can use the resources. Races are different machines, and ultimately one machine will triumph.

    As for me, I was created to be a faulty machine to begin with. Whether or not my short comings can be used to my advantage have yet to be seen.

    Where do I draw the line? That question should not be directed at me but someone else. I would select everyone who is the bottom quarter of the population and prevent them from breeding. This will be done continuously, so as the race becomes more genetically fit then the guidelines themselves will become more stringent.

    Again, I am not a racist, and WN to me is more of a politically party that I subscribe to rather than an ideology (if that makes any sense, it does to me).

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  28. "Human beings are a machine, and souls are inexistent."--Mr. Smidt

    "Absolute stuffing nonsense. The SOUL IS the ABSOLUTE reality of existence. All energy is permanent. Energy cannot be destroyed, only transmitted to a different form.

    "Matter is perpetually in a state of entropy; nothing remains static, or stationary; even a coastline or mountain may crumble. Even this planet may one day cease to be. But SPIRIT never dies...consciousness is eternal.

    " Only the individualized ego of sentient beings prevents them from flowing back into the Universal Consciousness of which we were all formulated,and which we are all a part of.

    "If life is simply birth-sex-work-death, then how do you explain the wealth of supernormal experiences and documented cases of near-death experiences that verify that consciousness is, indeed, seperate from and superior to the physical being?"--Mr. Brevard

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  29. Also, what, ultimately, would be the purpose of your sterilization program, anyway? If life is nothing more than a one-way trip to the boneyard, why the hell would you worry about the state of things in the world (or how genetically "fit" everyone was), as long as you got yours?

    I have encountered this line of thinking before, and never cease to find it ridiculous.

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  30. Stephen said:
    You can protest violence as well, but what I am pointing out is your hypocrisy. You denied the notion that the beating of Robby could be race related but now in this incident you claim it to be definitely so. Thanks for proving my point for me about the double standard present in American society.

    I never denied anything but the neccessity of Bill White and crew going to stir up some mess for their own goals. The only people who has even sugested it was a racist issue as far as I know are Bill White and company. And the mother never even mentioned race until after she had been bombarded with that mess from one of Hal Turners crew.

    Those idiots basically tried to pimp the boys mother while she was trying to make some sense out of the senseless conflict that severly injured her son. The fact that she didn't stand with or support Hal Bill and the crew speaks volumns.

    As of late these nuts have been combing the wires looking for any incidents that involve violence between ethnic groups in which they can exploit.

    Stephen said
    Again I feel sorry for the guy. If I was on the Jury I would have pressed for 10 to 20 years in jail. I was suggesting, however, for us to closely evaluate our priorities. Maybe punishing the perpetuators will not be beneficial for society since the victim was a drain on society in the first place. I also would advocate couples to produce offspring with the aid of a geneticist so no children like him or me have to be born ever again.

    One of the biggest drains on society is the hate movement if anything.

    What you call a drain on society is one of the most important things that separates humanity from the animals. Compassion. Caring for those less fortunate is not a drain but an exercise in humanity. And not to mention that a wise man can still learn much from the intellectually challenged.

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  31. Furthermore, Stefan--I really don't know how much to believe of what you say. You seem to be either riding two sides of the fence, or are simply making statements to elicit a response. Your blog suggests this, as it seems more like the rantings of a juvenile shock-artist tahn a serious representation of WP ideaology.

    Are you just having us all on?

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  32. Everretts,

    Individual life is pointless but the race is a concept and therefore can exist forever. You can destroy something made from flesh and blood but you cannot destroy something that is not tangible.

    So, the improvement of the race, the purification of your race is equivalent to you securing a page in one of those history books. You live on as a concept, the only way you can secure an existence that is one independent of ‘time’ (I do not believe in the concept of time, but I will reserve this for another day).

    Your race will become you, what is left of you, and the extinction of your race is hence forth the extinction of your ‘soul’ (This will be my definition, yours I will get to later) and all the achievements that have long lived with you now precedes you. An attack on ones race is really an attack on that one individual and his right for a existence in the afterlife.

    The soul in the traditional sense I do not believe in. A neuron can only be stimulated or not stimulated to begin with. This has dire implications on the human ‘soul.’ This makes our brain subject to binary law (0’s and 1’s) and thus can be modeled accurately with only two numbers in repetitious form. I suggest you read on the science of Artificial Intelligence (more specifically on Kernel Machines), it can be a bit mathematical but it is intriguing nonetheless.

    Energy is preserved; it usually lives on in the form of your offspring, and more generally your race.

    We are in a race war, and I cannot see the end result.

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  33. you suggested you wished you were never born
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    Not really, I suggested that society should rid the world of people like me. But, the fact that I have not committed suicide is an indicator that I am content with my life.

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    Yet you would deny those who are yet to be born in a state simular to yours to ever even have the chance to become content with their lives.

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  34. ROH,

    Life is cruel. The lion will eat the Zebra and will think nothing of it but when a Hunter shoots a metallic slug through his body then suddenly he develops a sense of humility, the lion cowers for his life just like the Zebra did when he mangled it to shreds.

    You had the chance to destroy me. As an infant extinguishing the life from me would be easy, now the task is much more difficult. I invite you to try, ROH, you still have a shot. Corner me, shoot me, and show yourself just how rewarding it is to be a creator and a destroyer at the same time. Life is in constant harmony, destroying one life force allows another to exist.

    When you destroy you get to create. The world is already painted in blood, and out of that blood a flower grows on its nourishment.

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  35. Balderdash. Every single bloody slovo you just miserably typed out is--balderdash.

    You live on through your race? Highfalutin, sentimentalist nonsense. I am talking about the existence of CONSCIOUSNESS, that moment AFTER you take your final breath.


    Nobody gives a damn about their progeny eight generations into what we consider the future. Not if they believe that once they shut their eyes--that's it. What, are you telling me there is a "group soul" for every race?

    Well, I'm telling you there is a "group soul" for EVERY LIVING THING.

    If death is the end, it follows that, when you die you won't give a damn about your race, my race, a race of Martians, or a stock-car race. Your race would be over--the finish-line crossed.

    You are HEAVILY contradicting yourself--nihilism + ANYTHING = NIHILISM.

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  36. No, Everrets,

    Just like in the pages of a history book, your achievements live on to be read by future generations, so can be said for your own race.

    --Altruism

    Most bees will never mate, will defend the queen with their life, all because if that queen exists, survives, and reproduces their genes exist and continue to exist. You live through your genes, your accomplishments to the improvement of the allele pool are hence represented, recorded, and remain to be ‘read’ by future generations.

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  37. "Life is cruel."

    It has been far crueler to others.

    "The lion will eat the Zebra and will think nothing of it but when a Hunter shoots a metallic slug through his body then suddenly he develops a sense of humility, the lion cowers for his life just like the Zebra did when he mangled it to shreds."

    Okay, so now you advocate Social Darwinism. Racism would be inconsistant with Social Darwinism though, would it not? After all, I can assure you there alot of Jewish people who are far more successful than, say, You.


    "You had the chance to destroy me. As an infant extinguishing the life from me would be easy, now the task is much more difficult."

    As an infant, you were not morally liable. Therefore, destroying you at that point would have been murder.

    "I invite you to try, ROH, you still have a shot. Corner me, shoot me, and show yourself just how rewarding it is to be a creator and a destroyer at the same time. Life is in constant harmony, destroying one life force allows another to exist."

    This is a bizarre exhortation--when did Roh threaten to destroy you? Also, since consciousness is permanent and everlasting, destroying the body only kills the BODY--not the "LIFE FORCE".

    "When you destroy you get to create. The world is already painted in blood, and out of that blood a flower grows on its nourishment."

    Ah, now we have a reference to Nietzsche--"There is no birth without blood." Yes, he was a good one to ask: a crippled, dwarfish man with severe breathing ailments who died in an insane asylum. Perhaps someone should have sterilized his mother.
    I find that the people who proffer this sort of nonsense are, for the most part, cowards lacking a real sense of self-image. Believe it or not, it takes confidence to be kind, and tolerance to be happy.



    I suppose you read The Satanic Bible too, hmmm?

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  38. No,

    Everrets,

    I never even read Nietzsche or knew any iota of his philosophies.

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    Okay, so now you advocate Social Darwinism. Racism would be inconsistant with Social Darwinism though, would it not? After all, I can assure you there alot of Jewish people who are far more successful than, say, You.
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    That excerpt was not advocating Social Darwinism, it was exposing the true nature of a human being. They abuse and use others but when it is their time they to receive what they have ‘planted’ they act stunned, and cowardly. This has nothing to do with WN, more to do with human nature.

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    This is a bizarre exhortation--when did Roh threaten to destroy you?
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    ROH wants to destroy me metaphorically: My ideology, culture, and eventually race.

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    find that the people who proffer this sort of nonsense are, for the most part, cowards lacking a real sense of self-image. Believe it or not, it takes confidence to be kind, and tolerance to be happy.
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    You are right, I am a train wreck, so was Hitler, and so did his enemies experience the nature of ‘karma.’

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  39. "You are right, I am a train wreck, so was Hitler, and so did his enemies experience the nature of ‘karma.’"--Mr. Shmidt

    Define what you mean by "train wreck". Why are you telling us this?

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  40. I am a coward. You hit the nail on the head. This is one reason I am divorcing myself from my emotions.

    I talk big, tough, to a bunch of people I do not even know, and will never meet but when a Black person outstretches his hand, I do not refuse it, I smile at him, and I take his hand, even though it repulses me to the core.

    I do not know how this started, but it spiraled out of control. One voice wants to scream out to the world, exposing what I am becoming and the other wants to ‘knock the other voice unconscious.” I think the first voice won this time.

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  41. Well, Mr. Shmidt, I am genuinely perplexed--what do you think qualifies as "bravery"?

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  42. Why should it repulse you to shake a black man's hand?

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  43. I think you are having me on. I think, perhaps, you are simply trying to engage in a made-up conversation, and don't really believe anything you're typing.

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  44. LOL,

    Everrets,

    Okay, Good night.

    No harsh feelings.

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  45. It seems that our friend, Stefan, is a walking contradiction and a very confused young man. I too would like to know why it "repulses" him to shake the hand of a black person and what his definition of bravery is.

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  46. Mr. Shmidt,

    There is NOTHING brave about being an outspoken hatemonger--our culture today is replete with such folks, from the entertainment industry to the internet. I've even met people who think such nihilism to be "chic".

    It takes a far greater, more courageous man, to stand up against injustice and hatred and say "enough!" It takes alot more courage to love someone, and be open and vulnerable and in danger of losing, then to close a wall around yourself, and become a "misanthrope".

    I should know--I use to be alot like that myself. And I was always miserable.

    It occured to me, finally, that all of my misery was self-induced, and that I loathed others, but that the real hate I carried was for myself. I am still not perfect--but I don't want to ever experience that level of hatred again.

    Hope that helps. My sominex is kickng-in, and I may get called to work tomorrow.

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