“You nigger beasts are going to get such a comeuppance this year, you have no fucking idea. We white people are going to come to city after city and take care of fucking business. Warning to liberals, left wingers and law enforcement that has dismally failed to reign in these animals for years: Stay out of our way or you can get it too. You can come in when its over to clean up the debris; we're gonna "clean house.".(Hal Turner, 2005)
Time is running out for Black Americans to reign-in the wild beasts they have loosed upon America. Your ancestors were brought to this country, against their will and in chains. YOU can leave the same way . . . . . and you WILL if you don't get your people to behave. (Hal Turner, 2005)
I have paid little attention to the little man with the big mouth known as Hal Turner for a couple of reasons; 1) Until recently he has never been anything more than a bit player in a B-movie; and 2) he has always appeared totally ineffectual when it comes to recruiting or attracting anyone to the racist right. While both of those things still stand, his recent thrust of himself into the racist limelight via Kingston, New York and Toledo, Ohio, has caused him to get on my last nerve.
Turner has always been the “shock-jock” of racist talk radio – even though Michael Blevins tries to best him every chance he gets. Like Bill White, Michael Blevins, and the whole of the National Socialist Movement, Turner is just another pariah among other Nazi’s. Lately, however, he seems to think that he is at the top of the heap. Admittedly, that “heap” is nothing more than a pile of compost composed of human detritus, but being on top of anything appeals to the base impulses of many on the racist right.
In an effort to bring Turner back to the realm of reality and out of his delusional state where he believes himself to be important to the movement, I went back to see what others have to say about him. Once I checked it all out, I realized that I wouldn’t have to spend too much time on this little man – his “friends” seem to have done all of the abasing for me. Here is what they have to say:
“Hal Turner runs his mouth PLENTY... More than enough to get anyone else arrested and convicted and imprisoned for life.
How is it that Hal Turner avoids this? Simple. He a federal troll for uncle ZOG, he draws out the mentally ill from dark basements into the light for easy arrest.”
“Hal Turner is a federal informant. He's a ZOG Troll that spews insane BS on an
internet "radio" show, he make LOTS of death threats against federal judges, politicians and other people and never gets arrested for it.
He used to publish bomb making instructions on his website and was telling his listeners to make bombs and blow up SIN-a-gogs and assassinate political figures with guns and bombs.
No normal individual could ever spew such nonsense and stay out of jail. Matt Hale didn't even come remotely close to saying a fraction of what Hal Turner says and he's rotting away in a hell hole for the rest of his life.. “
“…permanently banned him. I can't afford obvious provocateurs anymore. Never could, actually.”
“I probably shouldn't be so hot. I'm just imagining that for now on SF, the NA, WNs will have to carry the Hal Turner albatross around our necks”
“Obviously, Hal and I aren't on good terms. He's a caricature. He's everything that we don't want to be. He should be shunned, ostracized, and ignored.
Do you think maybe he's just a little egomaniacal? Just a tad? He speaks for no one, represents no one, he's just another psychotic loser with a website. He's a pariah, a persona non grata, a leper, and he should be treated as such.
Hal who? To the supporters of Hal Turner...he has no supporters. According to recent revelations on another popular website even his own mother has disowned him! Avoid him like the plague that he is.”
“As far as Hal Turner goes, I've turned my back on him and will no longer give him the satisfaction of acknowledging his existence.
“Whatever Turner is doing he just alluded on Fox News and on his website three additional Federal Judges are to be targeted for "Pro-White Public Scorn over the Hale Case!" This is just unbelievable and has me reassessing my future public participation in Pro-White causes.”
“This man is a trainwreck.
Filtering through his rants, I think -- "Is he merely a dangerously self-absorbed sociopath, or is he veritably working to discredit us?" Perhaps he thinks he's helping; but on balance he's extremely destructive. He does not have the charisma, the communications skills nor the presence of mind to represent himself well. He will hurt us.”
LabRat (Tina Edwards)
I have met Hal in person. Like many other people who rise to become infamous among WNists I have no idea why or how he got that way.
The nicest way I can find to put my opinion of Hal is that he is flakey at best. Many other things spring to mind when I recall the time I spent around him and none of it is that I thought he was an upstanding guy or even a WN.
“Ahh yes, that was truly entertainment at its finest. I was hoping he would have stayed on a bit longer. I enjoyed those long, manic and practically incomprehensible tirades.
I recall that show where he started yelling at his wife, it was so surreal. After I picked my jaw off of the floor I could not stop laughing for nearly an hour.
I also enjoyed every new and exotic medical condition he allegedly would come down with from time to time. Whether it was him suffering from a horrible life threatening fever, severe nasal problems, rare allergies etc. there was always something new and exciting with Hal Turner.
And it always involved needing more money.”
Hal Turner ...
is obviously psychotic;
A more truer statement was never made.
But really for the "abuser"** he is, I'd call him surprisingly stable.
The man is a maniac.
And before anyone goes trying to attack me I have met him on more than one occasion and they were not public WN rendezvous. In public the man is - yes reasonably intelligent (not the kind of reasonably Reason(ref. definition 3.) has anythig to do with) and articulate and somewhat effectual considering the amount of Hal lovers that seem to be looming...
However he is a deep dark hipocrite in his choice of lifesytle... The life he doesn't publicise.
He is by no means what so ever a model white man... nor is he the kind of "psychotic" we need promoting our cause. Especially considering the publicity he gives himself.
Another lunitic making us all look bad. Without a doubt.
“Hal Turner is anything but retarded. He is actually a very bright and articulate man. The problem is that I and many others who met him have noted right off the bat that he is obviously psychotic; yet people, for whatever reason, continued to coddle him. Now, in one interview he has the potential to derail the great success we've made recently. When are we, as a cause, going to once and for all shun sensationalism and violence and build a serious movement? “
“I warned SF prior to the Liberty State Park rally not to have anything to do with this man.
I questioned his membership when he was in the NA the first time.
I resigned from that organization due, in part, to the renewal of his membership.
Now a man who has done nothing for the WNs cause except lie, cheat and call for violence claims to have an upcoming interview on Dateline NBC. God knows that this creep has no business representing our cause on a public forum and it it only because those of you who enabled him over the years that this is happening. You all ought to be ashamed of yourselves. I'm damn near done trying to promote this cause surrounded by so many stupid people. The question I have for Stormfront and WNs is do we intend to be a serious movement for qualified people or a bunch of hobbyist?”
“I am very angry. I just get angry when good decent people are subject to having to deal with "crap". Please excuse the word.
I have so called friends who have encouraged over the years to go to his website or listen to his show, I didn't go because I didn't want to deal with his drama. I finally went over there earlier tonight so that the next time they asked me if I had checked it out yet, I wouldn't hear a lecture. I saw his piece on SF and some good people here who I admire and respect, which really made me angry and confirmed I was right not to check out his website before this. I won't be back either as getting angry over this is not worth my time or energy when I can spend it on a more positive way in getting the truth out.
“Hal is a loose cannon and yes, Brian I agree there is no telling what Hal will say on the TV show. Saying that, we must never give up what we know is the truth for this loser. Our cause is bigger than Hal or anyone else!!!!! I believe that what people dish out comes back to them three fold and Hal will get it back in spades for his lies and slander that he has told about good decent people.
I am not going to waste anymore time on this loser, but am going to continue to work on what I need to work on. Hal does not represent us, but there are people who do and they and us can make a good impression and we can make a difference and bring our message to the people in a postive way. Our people need our message and we can't let Hal or anyone else stand in our way of doing what we know has to be done. We need you Brian to continue to work for our cause!!!!!”
“Hal Turner is a menace to decent white people.”
“Hal Turner is a complete menace. He is completely out of control. It's like Abe Foxman is writing his script for him.
“I agree, he is a freakin parasite and i'll hold him partially to blame for whatever sentance Hale gets, i hope he rots in hell!!!”
“That sounds like "Threatening" a Judge to me.
It doesn't fly. If Hal Turner doesn't get pulled in
and taken to task over
this stuff, he's an agent provacateur....”
“As I have mentioned before, I have heard the name Hal Turner for years, but did not know much about the guy.
“I now undersrtand why so many WNs, that I respect, talk out against him. After watching the Dateline segment, I have no doubts that Hal Turner is over the top, and will bring negative publicity and heat to our movement.”
“I last spoke with him in person about two years ago at a Klansman's house in Alabama. He was never another Jared Taylor that is for sure. But it seemed he wasn't quite as radical then as he has become since. We sat at a table and shared a few beers and good conversation that night. The guy seemed then just as he said he was, simply a pissed off white guy who is beginning to see the truth and the origin behind the destruction. But I agree with Jay, there are too many things that has evolved around him that I dislike. I would never support him as I feel he has become way more of a liability than an asset.
“My negative opinion of him started later that night when he failed to pass the Klan naturalization ceremony and he sped off saying he thought Morris Dees was right. I have been pissed at my fellow activist many times over the years. But would I ever even think, much less say out loud that Dees the Sleaze was ever right on anything? Not on your life.”
“Why would anyone want to snuff a fed-judge (or their familly)?? It just stirs up more heat and gives the FBI an excuse to cozy up with ADL and their ilk. Stuff like this will lead to revocation of free-speach in America, like it has around the world. Hal is not helping by saying stuff like that.
The party line for the lemmings is "You can't yell 'FIRE' in a movie theater, someone will get hurt. Preaching hatred gets people killed. Neither are free-speech issues", and Hal Turner is playing right into their hands. Not only is that stuff illegal and not smart, it scares off those who could have been an asset to the community.”
“This guy should be pulling a fat salary from ADL!”
“He is poison to the White racialist cause - here he is being quoted in today's newspaper:
"She was immediately vilified -- Hal Turner, an underground radio personality, said on his show that she was 'worthy of being killed,' adding that 'it wouldn't be legal, but in my opinion it wouldn't be wrong.'"
“I read that and was aghast. And he is upset that Stormfront has cancelled his posting ability. Also he talks about the coming SH.. STORM against American White Nationalists. Why is he using the word STORM?
If Hal Turner has ever helped our cause he is doing more to undo it! To ban him permanently from posting here was the only thing that could be done.”
And there are more – lots more. As one can readily see, Hal Turner is almost as
outcast as the infamous Bill White. Yet Turner operates under the assumption that he is, somehow, leading a movement and that his followers hang on his every word. In reality, Hal is just another whacko spawned by the racist right and bastardized by the same.
Hal Turner is the epitome of sleaze. He has no saving graces and he has become persona non gratis in all of the racist circles. Generally speaking, he is surrounded by the dregs of the movement and that might be what makes him so dangerous. The goons that frequent his message boards and listen to his broadcast are lacking in the area of cognizant abilities. They are easily influenced and manipulated. Turner’s calls for murder and mayhem are pointed right at those who seek his recognition. One mad-hatter may very well result in a bevy of violence.