Sunday, January 15, 2006

Uh...The Demo That Wasn't?

I have no idea where Bill White's mind has flown, or how he comes up with some of the things that he does. As I have said before - if he doesn't know something, he just makes it up. On Friday, the following article was posted in the Boston Herald:

Museum to stay open while bigots slam MLK


By Brian Ballou and O’Ryan Johnson
Friday, January 13, 2006 - Updated: 11:48 AM EST

A white supremacist group is planning to visit the Museum of Afro-American History on Beacon Hill tomorrow to protest MLK Day, the first such demonstration at the museum since it opened to the public 20 years ago.

“Our concern is to make the building accessible during the time they plan to protest,” said Tracy Gibbs, museum spokeswoman.

A representative of the group, North East White Pride, replied to the Herald yesterday in an e-mail message, saying its representatives will be joined tomorrow by several similar groups.

“We are entirely peaceful and seek only to alert the public to the truth behind the fraud known as Martin Luther King Jr.,” wrote Rob O’Donovan, who runs the group’s Web site.

“We have a history of working with the Boston Police Department, and respect all law enforcement,” he added.

The museum will be open from 10 to 4 tomorrow and the group has indicated it will protest from 1 to 4, creating a three-hour overlap during which visitors may come face-to-face with the hate group.

Boston police and other law enforcement agencies have been in contact with museum officials.

The people who post on the White Pride Web site talk about exterminating certain races. One member posted pictures of his MAC-10 submachine gun, as well as a picture of his toddler holding the gun. In general they oppose integration, immigration and interracial couples.

“Any white blood that is crossed with a lesser race becomes lesser blood and must be destroyed,” O’Donovan wrote in one posting.

Martin Luther King Jr.’s birthday is Sunday and the holiday is recognized Monday. The museum is organizing an event Monday at the Old West Church at 131 Cambridge St.

Gibbs said the focus this weekend should be kept on the civil rights icon and the museum.

“A lot of people don’t know it’s here,” she said. “So the holiday is a great way to get the message out.”




Now, the "demonstration" never got off the ground. However, White's accounting runs on and on about "Jews" trying to attack and the police holding them back. Yet, coming from someone who was there, we get the following:

By "sbrocker8", North East White "Pride" Forum

The protest was a total joke. We weren't able to get any signs printed up cause evidently I'm the only person who ever keeps cash on him and Rob's wife decided to take his ATM card, we were an hour and a half late, and like, 5 minutes after showing up near the state house, the Boston cops crowded us into a paddy wagon saying they'd give us a ride wherever we wanted, Rob said "The museum" meaning the nigger history museum, so they dropped us off at the friggin Museum of Science which is a few miles away. After we got out, the cop driving was like "Free cab ride courtesy of the Boston Police Department" and they sped away. Bunch of friggin assholes, those god damn cops.

So we're all pretty pissed off. Seems like they just wanted us out of their hair. We DID run into a few pretty cool Transit Police who were in plain clothes, but the city pigs were total dicks and just wanted us out of their hair. What a friggin joke.

On a positive note now, the antis seem to get more and more degenerate looking and small every time we go into that shithole of a city...





So much for how this Northeast White Pride groups respects law enforcement. And, so much for their abilities to stage a demonstration. You have to hand it to them, though - they are talking about trying it all over again tomorrow. Maybe Rob can pry that ATM card loose and maybe this time the police will give them all a nice tour of the city as they drive them outside the city limits.

21 comments:

  1. Bill White is 28 years old yet has the imagination of a 5 year old child. Except a 5 year old child's imagination has some reality to it.

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  3. Thanks for getting the truth out, Nikki.

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  4. The legacy of MLK is one of increased violence and racial strife in America. Blacks today are either part of the criminal subculture, sing about it, or an unemployed. Mind you, that this is not solely due to their genetic shortcomings but also perpetuated by the liberal attitude toward race issues that is present in America.

    Blacks tend to blame all their problems on racism and not on themselves. They are juveniles in their level of maturity and cerebral abilities who when faced with failure blame it on racism and the white man.

    To everrets, I will respond to your comments and others that you made to Matt and Steve here:


    For a guy who promotes ‘tolerance’, you seem to have little yourself.

    Hypothesis 1 (yours): Jews are smarter than Whites on average because of their almost unilateral control of the media.

    This would be true if stated this way: American Jews are smarter than American Whites on.

    The reason that there is such a disparage between Jews and Whites in America is due to the strict immigration laws banning Jews who were all already smart and well educated (same reason for Asians).

    The major reason why the Jews have been able to exert a disproportionate influence on our government is due to their ethnocentric culture. The Asians, while smarter than the overall population have no such control, as can be and should be expected for immigrant races.

    Hypothesis 2: The NAZIS were ‘evil’

    The NAZIS fought for their country and their heritage as should be expected from any race or peoples. The so called Holocaust was greatly embellished for the purposes of the creation of a Jewish state and an explanation to the American people for the Americas involvement in the European theatre (There was a lot of controversy among the sizable German and Irish communities, if you remember. While ‘human lampshades’ could have occurred as isolated instances, this was by no means the norm in German policy as neither was complete extermination of the Jewish race. The policy was forced labor rather than extermination (remember, food was brought to these camps) since the general consensus among the German people was that Jews were not pulling their ‘weight’ so to speak.

    Hypothesis 3: I support Al Qaeda

    -----------(ROFLMAO)-----------

    I do not advocate supporting Israel however, which is what incurred 9-11 in the first place but I would advocate the extermination of any known Al Qaeda member that enters the USA.

    Hypothesis 4: People care about the MLK holiday

    Correct, I got a chance to sleep in and go on a skiing trip this weekend. : D

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  5. Dear Mr. Smidt,

    I have never claimed to be "tolerant". Quite the contrary, I DESPISE shit-disturbers and people who upset the social equilibrium. Such folks are little better than party-poops, and this IS the greatest country on the face of the Earth.

    I never claimed that Jewish People were smarter. I claimed that they were HUMAN--a classification denied them by folks on the Racist Right.

    If there is a disproportionate amount of Jewish People in the Media, it does me no wrong, nor do I especially care.

    The Jewish People have a legitimate claim to their own homeland. As being a minority, surrounded on all sides by enemies, they have proven time and again that they are capable and willing to defend themselves and their interests.

    Supporting our ONLY democratic ally in the Middle east is a matter of paramount importance in the struggle against militant Islamicists who would see every one that does not wish to be converted to Sharia Law exterminated.

    Much of your reply makes little sense to me, however, let me hasten to assert that EVERY SINGLE piece of "Holocaust Revisionism" has been satisfactorily debunked time and again. The true goal of "revisionism" is not to come to a true, objective understanding of history, but to make National Socialism a legitimate political alternative again.

    Yes, there was slave labor going alongside of extermination--should the existence of one disprove the reality of another? We already know that Mengele himself use to seperate those that could work from those that couldn't. The unfortunate souls that could not work were exterminated, or lent out to his "medical" horror facility, and treated as guinea pigs.

    Nice that those wonderful Nazis did this to children, eh Mr. Shmidt?

    So yes, given that-- and the fact that Trevor Ravenscroft proved conclusively the occult roots of Nazi Philosophy-- I say, indeed, that they were and are a manifestation of the Satanic.

    Also, if Jewish People are "ethnocentric" it should come as little surprise, since they have been unfairly persecuted down through the ages. Such a comittment to family and folkways is what would be expected of a group of people who have to form close common bonds in the name of survival.

    As for the African American situation, I have known many African Americans, and there are generations of them coming up that are going to be the doctors, lawyers, policemen, teachers, ministers, soldiers, ect. of tommorow. These kids are bright and motivated, and they are going to succeed. I know. I am around them ALL the time.

    A nation such as ours cannot afford to divide people up into little fighting factions. We are a culturally diverse, capitalistic country that thrives on independence, opportunity, and fair treatment to ALL.


    But, if you think that the Holocaust was some kind of bloody joke, tell me: how would you feel if someone killed YOUR entire family because they were not the "right" race?

    And yes, if you continue to support the Racist Right, I will continue to call you a TRAITOR.

    So. Tell me a better one, old bean.

    www.nizkor.org

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  6. However, let me also add that, there are times when being a "shit-disturber" is justified. As when confronting injustices and unfair persecution, such as what was suffered by African American people during the early decades of the last century.

    My objection to troublemakers is aimed squarely at those who DO NOT APPRECIATE what they have here in the U.S. Neo-Nazis, Communists, and Anarchists do not appreciate this country, nor the amazing strides in peace, social justice, and equality of opportunity for all thta we have made in this country. Nor do the Anti-War, Anti-Israel crowd fully appreciate just how severe the threat of Islamic Militancy is...No, I have nothing at all against Arab people, and yes, I realize that the vast majority of them are good, decent, and peaceful people. But for the Western Democratic Experiment to survive, we are going to have to make a strong showing against fanaticism and militancy, or we will be overrun.

    The same thing goes for ALL home-grown terrorists, as well.

    Sigh.

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  7. PS:

    Mr. Shmidt, ethnicity is morally NEUTRAL. Politics is NOT.

    A baby cannot help being born a black, white, Jewish, Hispanic, or Asian baby. This is not a choice for the baby, and so we say the baby is morally NEUTRAL.

    A person makes a conscious decision to be a Republican, Democrat, Independent, Communist, or Nazi pig.

    Now, three of these above choices are socially acceptable. The other two are NOT. Hence, since a person makes a conscious choice to advocate these two unacceptable positions, he/she has ceased to be morally neutral, and has become, instead, morally LIABLE.

    Moral Liability is divorced from RACE. Moral LIABILITY IS NOT DIVORCED FROM POLITICAL CHOICE.

    Hence, I do not have to tolerate Nazis, and will not, ever. Hence--Tolerance is NOT the right term to use in this situation.

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  8. Everretts,

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    I never claimed that Jewish People were smarter. I claimed that they were HUMAN--a classification denied them by folks on the Racist Right.

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    Your quote:

    All of which proves--what, exactly? That Jewish People are fairly successful, bright, enterprising, and have a general desire to achieve and be part of our culture?

    My, what a crime against humanity.

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    If there is a disproportionate amount of Jewish People in the Media, it does me no wrong, nor do I especially care.
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    Allowing a group as ethnocentric as the Jews to control the media is equivalent to allowing and supporting this group to freely air propaganda which suits this group in particular.

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    The Jewish People have a legitimate claim to their own homeland. As being a minority, surrounded on all sides by enemies, they have proven time and again that they are capable and willing to defend themselves and their interests.
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    They are capable of defending their ‘homeland’ only with our technology and our dollars.

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    Supporting our ONLY democratic ally in the Middle east is a matter of paramount importance in the struggle against militant Islamicists who would see every one that does not wish to be converted to Sharia Law exterminated.
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    So you support the genocide of the Palestinians?

    BTW, Hitler was democratically elected and his powers were democratically attained; which makes the Third Reich a democracy (Yet, you would never advocate supporting Hitler). More importantly, removing our support for Israel will remove the primary motive of the ‘Islamo-Terrorist’ movement.

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    Yes, there was slave labor going alongside of extermination--should the existence of one disprove the reality of another?
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    The Jews were supplied food by the German people who themselves were starving in their own homeland. Tell me, why would the Germans want to feed the Jews if their goal was to exterminate them?

    Most of the Jews who died did so from malnutrition and disease (hence the reason the Germans cremated Jewish bodies); these deaths occurred in the later years of the war because Germany was lacking basic supplies (attributed to Allied blockades).

    It does not take years for a country like Germany to exterminate a group of people, and so the reason that there were survivors is a testament to German policy not being one of extermination.

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    Nice that those wonderful Nazis did this to children, eh Mr. Shmidt?
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    Nice that those wonderful Israelis are doing this to Palestinian children, eh Mr. Brevard?

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    As for the African American situation, I have known many African Americans, and there are generations of them coming up that are going to be the doctors, lawyers, policemen, teachers, ministers, soldiers, ect. of tommorow.
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    There are exceptions to every rule (outliers).

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    But, if you think that the Holocaust was some kind of bloody joke, tell me: how would you feel if someone killed YOUR entire family because they were not the "right" race?
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    If my race ever invaded a country (like the Jews did to Germany and then Palestine) where it did not belong to, then yes, me and my family would deserve it.

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    And yes, if you continue to support the Racist Right, I will continue to call you a TRAITOR.
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    Who said I supported the ‘Racist Right?’

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  9. Mr. Shmidt,

    Your answers are trite. You compare apples to oranges and say, "see, they are both alike!"

    The policy of Nazi Germany as it relates to the extermination of Jews, Homosexuals, Gypsys, ect. is one of the most well-documented historical facts in all of human history.

    Comparing the present situation in Israel as it relates to the Palestinians is a gross exaggeration and intellectualy, a lewd and untenable position. Your "poisoning the well" tactic in asserting that, because "food" was being supplied, there was no extermination occuring is nearly laughable in it's childishly simplistic reasoning. Obviously, since we already established that the healthier prisoners were going to be worked to death, the Nazis were going to feed their slaves as long as they were usefull.

    Of course, when they could no longer muster the strength to work they died--by gunfire, gas, or whatever other means the Nazis had at their disposal. Even the most conservative estimates, estimate that there were 1, 100, 000 people killed at Auschwitz alone--and this was one of numerous camps.

    Also, if there had been no policy of deportation to camps to begin with, one might well be able to argue that many of those that died of typhus and starvation, had they been allowed to remain in their various locations, would not have died at all. Regardless of gas chambers, mass-executions, and barbaric cruelty--which are fact--can we not argue that rounding millions up in filthy, inhumane conditions, and starving them to death, is not also a form of murder?

    I know that Anne Frank died of typhus and starvation at Bergen-Belsen concentration camp. There can be little doubt, had her family not been arrested, Anne Frank would have survived the war.

    So, much of "revisionism" is going to fall on cold ears for those of us who still harbor some affection for humanity.

    PS: Just admit it, damnit, you don't give a damn about the Palestinians any more than Hal Turner, Blevins, or Bill White does. You simply hate Jews. Quit hiding behind your "bleeding heart" affections for the Palestinians, because you are simply all liars.

    You folks really are a bunch of two-faced meally cowards.

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    The policy of Nazi Germany as it relates to the extermination of Jews, Homosexuals, Gypsys, ect. is one of the most well-documented historical facts in all of human history.
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    It is well documented by the Jewish media and Jewish historians. Does it worry you that your knowledge of a historical event is acquired from one group of people who have a motive to slant the history regarding that event?

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    Your "poisoning the well" tactic in asserting that, because "food" was being supplied, there was no extermination occuring is nearly laughable in it's childishly simplistic reasoning.
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    Your logic is showing ‘cracks.’ If the NAZIS wanted slave labor then that would be hard to achieve if they executed their slaves. So which is it, slave labor or pre-meditated murder?

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    Also, if there had been no policy of deportation to camps to begin with, one might well be able to argue that many of those that died of typhus and starvation, had they been allowed to remain in their various locations, would not have died at all. Regardless of gas chambers, mass-executions, and barbaric cruelty--which are fact--can we not argue that rounding millions up in filthy, inhumane conditions, and starving them to death, is not also a form of murder?
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    This would be manslaughter.

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    PS: Just admit it, damnit, you don't give a damn about the Palestinians any more than Hal Turner, Blevins, or Bill White does. You simply hate Jews. Quit hiding behind your "bleeding heart" affections for the Palestinians, because you are simply all liars.

    You folks really are a bunch of two-faced meally cowards.
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    I love all human beings (including Jews) and unlike you (you, who seem to only love Jews) want to preserve all of these races in their present state (the only way that human diversity will continue to thrive in this world is if we stop miscegenation).

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  11. Mr. Smidt said,

    "It is well documented by the Jewish media and Jewish historians. Does it worry you that your knowledge of a historical event is acquired from one group of people who have a motive to slant the history regarding that event?"
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    To which Mr. Brevard replies:

    No, it bothers me that there are those who are stupid enough to swallow the confabulated nonsense proffered by crypto-Nazi revisionists like Zundel, Hoffman, Germar Rudolph, ect. Are you trying to tell me Herr Zundel isn't working toward an agenda too? Oh do come on!
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    Mr. Shmidt said,

    "Your logic is showing ‘cracks.’ If the NAZIS wanted slave labor then that would be hard to achieve if they executed their slaves. So which is it, slave labor or pre-meditated murder?"
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    To which Mr. Brevard replies:

    It was a combination of both. The Final Solution however, was to remain the same, regardless of whether or not some Jews were used in slave labor before they were gassed.
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    Mr. Shmidt said:

    "This would be manslaughter."
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    To which Mr. Brevard replies:

    Mr. Shmidt's penchant for triviality when confounded is duly noted. Regardless, those people, their families and children, would have survived had it not been for a policy of ethnic "cleansing". Mr. Shmidt is now a District Attorney, as well as a qualified historian?
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    Mr. Shmidt said:

    "I love all human beings (including Jews) and unlike you (you, who seem to only love Jews) want to preserve all of these races in their present state (the only way that human diversity will continue to thrive in this world is if we stop miscegenation)."
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    To which Mr. Brevard replies:

    Anyone can make a profuse confession of his great love for humanity. Even Hitler did this. Actions speak louder than words.
    I am not Jewish myself, although as a religious studies student I garnered quite an affction for Judaism, as well as Hinduism. I am a Christian Spiritualist, which means, quite simply, that I realize that the body is simply a vehicle for the growth of the Spirit.

    Miscegenation has been occuring since the beggining of time, and is no great threat to Man, his development, or any specific culture. Or, at best, it is an unfounded threat. And, if we end up with various combinations of races--who cares? Who really cares what color a child is? Or a very pretty woman?

    I've seen many attractive racially-mixed people who were good Christian believers, as decent people. Cultures evolve, Mr. Shmidt. Nothing remains "static".

    No matter the race, we are all human beings, and worthy of love and life.

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  12. I just want everybody to know I am gay and have a strong obsession with sucking dick.

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  13. Mr Shmidt,

    It is said that, "You will know a tree by the fruit that it bears". So, ask yourself: what fruit has the White Power movement born in this country?

    Racially-motivated killings? Hate crimes? Harassment? Rioting? Stiff prison sentences for its "true believers"? Oklahoma City? Church bombings? Lynchings? Ruined lives?

    What about Nazism in Germany?

    Millions dead. War. Despair. The division of the country for decades. A black mark in history that may not be outlived for a thousand years.

    It seems to me, that the fruit borne of this particular tree is almost entirely rotten.

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  14. Mr. Frazier,

    Once again you manage to come off like a fart in a French Restaurant.
    Please go away!

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    No, it bothers me that there are those who are stupid enough to swallow the confabulated nonsense proffered by crypto-Nazi revisionists like Zundel, Hoffman, Germar Rudolph, ect. Are you trying to tell me Herr Zundel isn't working toward an agenda too? Oh do come on!
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    Aside from your attack on my intellectual aptitude, your point was a good one. I have been exposed to both sides and have formulated my conclusions, and I suspect you have yourself (that is if you have read both sides with an ‘open’ mind).

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    It was a combination of both. The Final Solution however, was to remain the same, regardless of whether or not some Jews were used in slave labor before they were gassed.
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    If Germany’s primary goal was to execute the Jews then they would have done so; no food would have been necessary if this was their goal. The use of slave labor, delivering food, and allowing certain Jews (ones with a history of military service are an example) to go free disputes your point that Germany wanted to rid Europe of Jews entirely. Their intentions were not benevolent, but at the same time these intentions were not as ‘wicked’ as traditional media would like for you to believe.

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    Mr. Shmidt's penchant for triviality when confounded is duly noted. Regardless, those people, their families and children, would have survived had it not been for a policy of ethnic "cleansing". Mr. Shmidt is now a District Attorney, as well as a qualified historian?
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    Death through disease that is a result of unsanitary conditions would be equivalent to manslaughter and not murder. As for your snide remark, are you a ‘qualified’ historian?

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    I've seen many attractive racially-mixed people who were good Christian believers, as decent people. Cultures evolve, Mr. Shmidt. Nothing remains "static".
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    Why brush your teeth since they will eventually rot and decay anyway?

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    No matter the race, we are all human beings, and worthy of love and life.
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    Different races and genders of the Human specie are inherently different and so I love them each uniquely, but not equally since as you stated before- apples and oranges.

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  16. I would also hasten to add, Mr. Shmidt, that you most certainly DO NOT come off as a hardcore Nazi. If you are a simple racist, that is a matter of personal opinion, I suppose, as long as you aren't out somewhere stockpiling guns and hoping to overthrow the government.

    You do have alot going on upstairs--much more than most of the Nazi's I've been on these boards with (much more than, say, Bill White the "smartest man o' live!"lol!).

    I doubt I will change your mind very much. But, if you are curious, you can go to Nizkor.org, or some of the other sites for documentation.

    Take care,

    EB

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  17. The WN movement has been hijacked by a few opportunists who want the movement to exist as a fringe element (so they can wield more influence).

    As for your challenge: The WN has a few worthy goals like reducing illegal immigration and crime.

    These stances on issues as well as a more moderate voice like a young David Duke is what I continue to hope for. I am ashamed to admit that I cannot give an example on a national level but that only justifies why WNs have to change their image, rhetoric, and approach if they are to remain relevant in the future.

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  18. EB,

    I have thoroughly enjoyed the debate. I believe in the American ideal also, and have no problem with your viewpoints as such.

    I do not believe I am a WS. I have never advocated genocide, deportation, segregation, or slavery. I believe that each race has its own unique talents and shortcomings and just like ‘endangered’ species should be preserved as long as possible, so should the individual human races (for a world with only one type of ‘human’ being would be a bland one indeed).

    Good luck pursuing your teaching career, your students are lucky to have such an articulate and intelligent teacher.

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  19. Yes, well, you must understand, I am more conservative than most of the people you will find supporting Anti-Racism. I certainly do not believe in communism, as this killed MILLIONS last century, as well. I rather find that Nazism and Communism are two sides of the same coin, with the exception that Communism will always draw in a greater number, as it is not a racial faction.

    I suppose , maybe I am probably a dreaded "Neo-Con" in outlook, which also pits me--politically, at least--against most of the Antifa, although we are both opposed to racism and persecution of others based on ethnic reasons.

    I do NOT oppose the war, or the present U.S. policies in the Middle East.

    But, as I specified earlier, for religious reasons, racism cannot be a part of my philosophical outlook. And Nazism is repugnant, through and through.

    But, yes, crime does need to come down in this country--but I don't think that has anything to do with race but instead with re-asserting BASIC PRINCIPLES OF BEHAVIOR, starting with schoolchildren. Instilling values, discouraging unwed pregnancy, banning degrading and abusive forms of pornography, setting-up institutions of Mandatory Therepeutic Re-Education for violent and repeat offenders, offering incentives for couples to marry, and re-introducing a Religious Curriculum in the public schools is the answer--not persecuting anyone's race or ethnicity, or forcing anyone out the door.

    There are, after all, more white serial killers than there are black. There are just as many white rapists, pedophiles, ect., as there are black, or any other race...

    No. It is a lack of VALUES that this culture suffers from. It is NOT suffering from its diversity, which, I believe, is only one of its great strengths.

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  20. And good luck to you too, Sir. You are the worthiest opponent I have yet met in this forum.

    Take care,

    "Everrets Brevard"

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  21. The WN has been hijacked by the nutjobs because all of their leaders who actually did accomplish stuff in real life are now dead. Richard Butler & William Pierce are two that come to mind. Both had doctorates and before their racist careers, actually contributed to human society.

    Today you've got dozens of WN groups with no more than a few dozen members and dozens of nutjobs calling themsleves leaders.

    The internet has allowed almost every nutjob that wouldn't be accepted in real life to become

    20 years ago, the Bill White's and Hal Turner's would have long been excluded from WN ranks. Now, those kinds are the norm. As their ranks dwindle, nutjobs have become welcomed and the standard.

    The good thing is all these splintered groups are totally powerless in the grand scheme of things.

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