Thursday, June 15, 2006

FLOYD, NIKKI & DLJ TAKE ON THE LOT OF THEM

This week's program is a round table discussion hosted by Floyd Cochran with Nikki from Citizens Against Hate and DLJ from One Peoples Project, we discuss Ann Coulter, racist rallies in Maryland and Buffalo, Pennsylvania KKK forming secret army, Nazi builds museum in Wisconsin, terrorist Hal Turner, plus a lot more. Be sure to read full texts articles on the Citizens Against Hate website and One Peoples Project website.

TO THE SHOW

79 comments:

  1. Great Broadcast but...

    Why do you guys always bash conservatives? Sure Coulter is annoying and over opinionated, but is it really fare to compare her to the Bill Whites and Hal Turners of this world? Isnt Michael Moore just as obnoxious and moronic? Why isnt he on that list? Or those Jew haters in the Nation of Islam and the New Black Panther Movement? Isnt OPP an organization that combats racists? Why does it have prominent conservatives (including some fairly moderate ones) listed on the same pages as Matt Hale and David Duke. Cant conservatives be part of the resistance to bigotry?

    I am conservative and I am also very much antiracist. Are the two mutually exclusive? Would I be able to join or contribute to OPP if I happened to be a republican?

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  2. You don't get it anonymous these are the left-wingers and they aren't battling racism, they are only concerned with attacking White people. They should be caled anti-whites not anti-racists. They never will cover black hate crimes, they are only out to slander Whites.

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  3. anonymous said..."Why do you guys always bash conservatives? Sure Coulter is annoying and over opinionated, but is it really fare to compare her to the Bill Whites and Hal Turners of this world? Isnt Michael Moore just as obnoxious and moronic?"

    Sorry - but in my opinion, Ann Coulter is a self-serving opportunist just like Bill White. I don't believe that has anything to do with being conservative or a republican - I think it's about Ann Coulter and Bill White.

    I can't speak for OPP - but what I can tell you is that I don't care what your political bias is - as long as we all pull together on the issue of racism.

    As far as Michael Moore is concerned, I would imagine that there are some who find him obnoxious. Personally, I love the man and plan on marrying him when I grow up.

    I really hate labels - and this whole "conservative" vs "liberal" thing or the dem vs rep is just a waste of time and energy that could be much better spent doing positive things.

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  4. Well, we work with Republicans, and yes, you would be able to work with us, but I have to be real about this. If you are a conservative, you are aligning yourself with an ideology that is indeed a racist one. There is no way around it, no matter how upset at the charge conservatives get. How many times does that charge has to be levied before someone says there might be a problem with that crowd? It's doesn't help when various indiviuals who call themselves conservatives hook up with white supremacist groups, as evidenced with the Minuteman Project and those who are a part of the Council of CONSERVATIVE Citizens, who are having their conference as of right now at the Holiday Inn in Clarksville, Indiana. Now having said that, it does not mean that all conservatives are racists, and yes, if there are conservatives that want to put their racist comrades down, we are more than happy to work with them. Note that not all conservatives or racists for that matter are spotlighted by OPP, just the ones that want to cause some problems.

    You know what is the most important thing a conservative can do? Put your money where your mouth is. That's not directed at you per se, but conservatives rarely do so. If they do, depending on the individual in question they either prove themselves the asset they say they are or the asshole we say they are.

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  6. And, damnit...kill this anonymous thing. We are not going to kill you are anything. I can understand the second anon post but you have nothing to worry about. Who are you?

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  7. If you are a conservative, you are aligning yourself with an ideology that is indeed a racist one.--dlj

    LOL!!!!!!

    As opposed to liberals that support AA for Blacks, Latinos, and N. Americans but not for any other group (Asians are the notable exception).

    What do you label it when someone (or an institution) discriminates based on race?

    You guys are hilarious. I am sure Middle America would appreciate being called ‘racist’ by a disgruntled Black person.

    The Minute Man are far more mainstream than you people—most Americans actually want to stop the demographic ‘democide’ that is occurring in the Southwest.

    None of you are even remotely as potent as the Minute Man. Hell, even the CoCC wins elections in Mississippi.

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  8. Floyd really has a distinct lisp.

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  9. I believe that our anonymous friend is none other than EB. His love of Jews gave him away quite easily.

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  10. Blacks are by far the most racist population in America. The Black panthers draw far more supporters than any WN protest even though they have a far smaller pool to draw from.

    Look what is happening in the Duke ‘rape’ case…. Convict them because they said ‘nigger’ is the attitude among Blacks.

    If you ‘anti-racists’ were genuine, you would focus on Black America far more than White America.

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  11. Stefan:

    Rush Limbaugh tackles the black racists everyday and has 20,000,000 million listeners.

    Rush Limbaugh never attacks white supremacy.

    OPP and CAH combined maybe get 1/10,000 of the audience that Rush Limbaugh has.

    And yet Stefan complains about the CAH and OPP not giving black racism attention.

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  12. Stefan is not mad because we are pulling some nonexistant double standard. He is mad because we go after the people he likes. Wah, wah, wah.

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  13. And that, my friend, is a FACT!

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  14. And yet Stefan complains about the CAH and OPP not giving black racism attention.--unit 9

    I have seen Bill O’Reilly go after the NSM before (during the Toledo riots—he even said that they should not have been allowed to protest in the Black neighborhoods) and he has attacked others that you would most certainly label as ‘White Supremacists.’

    Considering their potency (in relation to the Black Nationalistic organizations) this coverage is already over embellishing the situation.

    I don’t listen to Rush Limbaugh so I cannot comment on that assertion.

    Interestingly, I went to the OPP’s website and searched their Rogue’s Gallery (under ‘F’) and this is what I got:

    Tuesday, 04 May 2004
    ERIC FAIRBURN Administrator 1187 Saturday, 13 March 2004
    AUGUST KREIS Administrator 1693 Saturday, 13 March 2004
    MARK FUHRMAN Administrator 1195 Saturday, 13 March 2004
    PAUL FROMM Administrator 757 Saturday, 13 March 2004
    ROB FREEMAN Administrator 878 Saturday, 13 March 2004
    ROY FRANKHOUSER Administrator 634 Saturday, 13 March 2004
    SAM FRANCIS (DECEASED) Administrator 1288 Saturday, 13 March 2004
    EZOLA FOSTER Administrator 1529 Saturday, 13 March 2004
    JULES FETTU Administrator 669 Saturday, 13 March 2004
    DON FEDER Administrator 534 Saturday, 13 March 2004
    JERRY FALWELL Administrator 1585

    Is something missing from this list? Hmm? Try ‘Louis Farrakhan’—last I checked he can draw almost a million to his rallies where he plays footsy with genocidal rhetoric.

    But as ‘anti-racists’ you don’t even include him on your list…….

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  15. We go after those you like, Stefan! That's the blueprint! I can assure you though that race doesn't play into the decision. Notice that Ezola Foster is included?

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  16. ^^^

    Daryl, you put her on the list because she was Buchanan’s running mate.

    I have yet to see a Black National on the list—Farrakhan would be a nice place to start.

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  17. Jeezus, kid, you're obsessed with me. Time to check your orientation?

    I haven't even been to this blog in a few weeks, and I get on here to download the new podcast, and you're still foaming about little 'ol me. LOL!

    Get a life.

    BTW, Mr. Jenkins, Nazism IS a "Left-wing movement". Notice Bill White fit right in?

    Hence: National Socialists

    Well, I'm gonna disappear again. Toodleoo!

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  18. Whatever, Hoyt, but that still doesn't change the fact that Floyd has a lisp.

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  19. Original anonymous poster here (my e-mail is busted so I cant register), some of the responses are really disheartening.

    DLJ - I think you are wrong. There is nothing racist about being conservative, and racists come from both sides of the political spectrum. Is it racist to believe in low taxes and small government? Is it racist to be a church going Chrisitian? Is it racist to believe in an aggresive foreign policy?

    I have been a member of half a dozen right wing groups and publications, and have never in my life encountered a single racist. I did meet one antisemite who said Jews control America, and that Israel should be destroyed, and he was a liberal.

    Nikki - Its your right to like or dislike Michael Moore, but he is a mirror image of Coulter. He as much as Coulter is a self promoter, partisan hack, and liar. I happened to think that Coulter makes alot of good points and am not surprised her books are bestsellers, I dont see how this is any worst than you liking Moore.

    Basically if you are against conservatives you put half the country in the racists camp. it is sad but the person most on my side here is schimdt. I think it would be better to remove conservatives from the list and focus on combating racism, something everyone can agree on.

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  20. All about Vonbluvens.

    Michael Blevins suffers from bi-polar disorder, schizophrenia, and past substance abuse. He currently is on Depakote, Seroquel and Lamitica to control his mental status. Blevins draws a social security check each month for being serverely mentally ill.

    Michael Blevins is also prohibited by a Roanoke COunty judge from seeing his own children. According to his divorce documents, his ex-wife Suzanne, Blevins would beat her and she suspected he was abusing his own children. While charges were never filed, a Roanoke county judge believed her and ordered Michael Blevins never to have unsupervised contact with his own biological children ever again.

    Blevins has had many psychatric hospitalizations in short-term units. He still owes $1,000s of dollars in unpaid medical bills. The City of Roanoke placed Blevins in a halfway house that caters to criminals and the mentally ill, 1529 Patterson Ave in Roanoke where BLevins stayed until he was thrown out for his irrational emotional behavior.

    His sidekick, Kenneth Michael Schneider aka Doc is a wanted fugitive in the City of Roanoke. Schneider has a violent history including several arrest and convictions for

    petty larceny
    theft
    telephone harassment
    assault
    battery

    and that just covers the City of Roanoke & Suffolk County Virginia.

    But when you are severely disabled like Michael Blevins & a racist, he doesn't have much choice when it comes to friends.

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  21. Oh, so in other words, I put her on the list based on her ideology, eh? Should I take her down?

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  22. Everrets Brevard, Nazism is not a left wing movement. That's what conservatives say to absolve themselves of any sin. If is was a left wing movement, it is the only left wing movement that conservatives never seem to want to do anything about! Notice that it is the left that the Nazis hate the most? Sorry, I don't play political spin games.

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  23. Anon, sorry, but I have been doing this too long and have seen who's who in too many of these groups to disconnect conservatives with the racists. It is not always the case, but more often than not the conservative and the racist is one and the same.

    Now in one of the other posts to you, I noted specific groups and people that raise that particular flag. Seems like when THEY are about "low taxes and small government", being a "church going Chrisitian" and in believing in "an aggresive foreign policy" we have to get eugenics and social engineering with it. If you discount those racists among you, you will do yourself a disservice. You even say Schmidt is the person most on your side. Hello!

    We know what we are doing. I am not going to make like Alan Colmes and pretend not to see what's up. Most importantly, I expect responses such as yours. Hell, it was responses such as yours that prompted us to start OPP in the first place. We had to show what in particular we were reacting to as it stood with conservatism. Oh, a good thing to point to by the way. Check out those old National Reviews from back in the sixties and see who was supporting segregation. Wasn't the left, that's for damn sure. And I say check out the National Reviews, because the usual response to that is how the Democrats pushed Jim Crow, and for the record, I didn't say Democrat or Republican, I am on the lines of conservatism and liberalism. Those Democrats were conservative, and many bolted for the Republicans after the Civil Rights Bill was passed.

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  24. DLJ, If you want to include all the conservatives as Neo-Nazis and paint them with the broad brush then you have to include the liberal democrats with the communist/marxist socialist movement.

    By this standard you are admitting your own affiliations with the pro-communist left, no surprise here. Just keeping it real nigga. I think the blacks running for office as Republicans would disagree with your assessment because often times the falshood is promoted that only Whites cna be racists. If only Whites can be racists, and Blacks are also conservative Republicans then your argument is contradictory and has no logic behind it at all. I think your efforts are motivated by your hatred of Whites, and your own personal racism.

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  25. Also, if you wanted to be taken seriously as an anti-hate group instead of a disgruntled minority hating on Whites then you would atleast for propaganda purposes list some non-whites and acknowledge their ability to hate.

    I've always been surprised that the leftists have not figured this out. In a time when it is so easy to spot Arab haters and the public opinion would support that. Are not asians haters too ? It was the Japanese who attacked Pearl harbor not Germans. Shouldn't Imperialism be held responsible as much as National Socialism ? Even still the anti-Whites seem determined to carry on the myth that only Whites are haters.

    How they can expect their policy of omitting non-whites from their hate lists to be taken as anything but racist I don't know. Hate is a natural emotion. Are non-whites so different that they do not even share basic emotions as Whites ? In my opinion their policy of excluding non-whites is the most telling of their true agenda being anti-white, and it is much more racist in it's intent than anything from the conservatives.

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  26. "... If you want to include all the conservatives as Neo-Nazis and paint them with the broad brush then you have to include the liberal democrats with the communist/marxist socialist movement..."

    And I do.

    "...Also, if you wanted to be taken seriously as an anti-hate group instead of a disgruntled minority hating on Whites then you would atleast for propaganda purposes list some non-whites and acknowledge their ability to hate."

    And I have.

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  27. Ann Coulter = Michael Moore???????

    Where do you people come up with this stuff?

    When has Michael Moore used racial slurs and defamed entire cultures? Never.

    Yes both shock jocks but Coulter is a straight up racist and I am of the opinion that her fans have similar leanings.

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  28. I'm leftist and I generally don't care for the "right wing." I'm a National Socialist until death, through and through. National Socialism is a left-wing philosphy. Left doesn't mean pro-jewish and shouldn't mean anti-white. Am I racist? Certainly. Everyone is.

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  29. On conservatives:

    I think 95% of them are racist but pro-zionist. You can't be openly racist and be pro-jewish, that is, unless you are just racist towards arabic people (which is ok in the jewish playbook). Generally conservatives are generally that way because of class reasons. They can slap blacks on the back and report to love Tiger Woods all they want safely from their all-white gated communities. More lower-class whites are identified as "openly racist" because A. they don't let their money convey their racism, B. they have nothing to get snatched away from them by declaring themselves racist.

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  30. Agreed, National Socialism is a left-wing philosophy, and Hitler and Stalin were two rats cut from the same cloth.

    Both ideologies, communism and nazism, have been responsible for massive death, genocide, and suffering since their unfortunate inceptions.

    The Holocaust aside, the Nazis killed millions of non-Jewish Europeans, including hundreds of Catholic priests and clergy, as well as Jehova's Witness, the mentally handicapped, political opponents, Soviet POWS, and upwards of several million Soviet citizens.

    And, of course, six million Jewish civilians from all over Europe (probably a conservative estimate,BTW).

    The Bolsheviks and Stalin, likewise, killed millions in their wake (they had a bit longer time-period in which to work, compared to the twelve years of the Nazi era).

    Both ideologies are cut fromt he same cloth, both are totalitarian, genocidal, and unworthy of mankind in the modern era.

    The best system, the most fair, equtiable, and humane system--although not perfect--is what we have now.

    So Chris Drake, by proclaiming yourself a "National Socialist"
    you aren't being "loyal" to the white race--you're being a traitor. National Socialism killed millions of non-Jews during WW2, including women and children, and this is a historical fact.

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  31. Who said we loved all white people? The jews would be nothing without some of them. I'll get into all that later on.

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  32. Oh, brother. You guys and this Hitler was a leftist crap. I guess it doesn't matter that if you was a Bolshevik, you would have been shot in Nazi Germany, but why don't we ask the man himself what he thought of Marxism? This was in Mein Kampf:

    "...The Jewish doctrine of Marxism rejects the aristocratic principle of Nature and replaces the eternal privilege of power and strength by the mass of numbers and their dead weight. Thus it denies the value of personality in man, contests the significance of nationality and race, and thereby withdraws from humanity the premise of its existence and its culture. As a foundation of the universe, this doctrine would bring about the end of any order intellectually conceivable to man. And as, in this greatest of all recognizable organisms, the result of an application of such a law could only be chaos, on earth it could only be destruction for the inhabitants of this planet.

    If, with the help of his Marxist creed, the Jew is victorious over the other peoples of the world, his crown will be the funeral wreath of humanity and this planet will, as it did thousands of years ago, move through the ether devoid of men.

    Eternal Nature inexorably avenges the infringement of her commands.

    Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord"

    You keep forgetting an important trait of leftists: We are not Nationalists! That discounts Chris as a leftist. And if you STILL want to insist otherwise after all of this, it confuses me considering I seldom see right-wingers opposing them with us either at rallies or otherwise, and if they do more often than not they are Jewish!

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  33. Dum-dum, we're not marxist and we hate communism on equal footing with world jewery. How is it that I know more about what you believe than you, me and I'm not after you all the time? There's several books you can read on it.

    I'm a National Socialist, not a National Capitalist. I don't claim to be on any common ground with you, but true National Socialism isn't right wing, by definition.

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  34. Here's a good question to bug you while I'm gone, Daryle: how can you be truely left wing and be pro-jewish? Going back to Stalin I've even wondered how they sold people that one. Sure jews promote the left, but only as long as it promotes jews. You're fine as wine in their book until you oppose some other enterprise of theirs such as say...the war in Iraq. Remember your formula:

    War against whites, good.
    War against any non-whites except Arabs, bad.

    Let's have a quiz!

    WW2---A. good (hint: jews got what they wanted)
    ------B. bad

    Vietnam--A. good
    ---------B. bad (hint: they weren't white and were communist)

    Serbia--A. good (white, non-jews)
    --------B. bad

    Iraq---A. good (remember Arabs)
    -------B. bad (this is tricky because we're losing, jews are never for a war someone lost for them)

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  35. Nazis=Genocidal maniacs, oppressors, murderers.

    Bolsheviks=Genocidal maniacs, oppressors, murderers.

    Daryl and Chris: WHAT'S THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE?


    Democracy and capitalism=THE ONLY SYSTEMS THAT HAVE EVER HALFWAY "WORKED" WELL.

    Our system ain't perfect, but it's the best so far.

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  36. anon, the system isn't perfect because capitalists=Genocidal maniacs, oppressors, murderers as well. Refer to this stupid war in South West Asia for that one. And let's not stop there:

    Christians=Genocidal maniacs, oppressors, murderers.

    Conservatives=Genocidal maniacs, oppressors, murderers.

    Scientists=Genocidal maniacs, oppressors, murderers.

    On the other hand, none of these do not have to go down the road of any one involved in the above being Genocidal maniacs, oppressors or murderers. I can be the biggest Genocidal maniac, oppressor and murdererer in the world without having the slightest political line. In other words, you are pulling the same stunt I see conservatives pull all the time. You throw out red herrings like this to distract from the fact that a lot of people within the conservative circles have been proven culpable regarding the concerns we address here. Here we are 30+ posts into this thread, and I notice no one wants to talk about the groups and individuals I mentioned earlier that generate the concern.

    But I am not one to keep going back and forth on this without looking for some way to break the stalemate. You know the charge is levied at conservative regularly, and you can never beat the charge. One of those reasons is because when you are given the opportunity to do so, you give some lame excuse as to why you can't and you run the other way. Question: what have you done to beat back the Nazis that we discuss? You think they are leftist, and you don't like leftists all that much, so did you do more than talk trash on a computer? If not, it goes back to another thing I said earlier. If they are leftists, they are the only ones conservatives would not try to do a damn thing about.

    And Chris, I so want to hear what you are terming as left wing, because I am willing to bet mine's disagrees with yours, and mine's the right one.

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  37. Red Herrings, huh, Daryle? You've been listening to my show! Good job! I'll talk to you tommorow. 10:30 is as late as I want to be political.

    Oh yeah, btw, I'm right, you're wrong.

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  38. No, I'M right YOU'RE wrong!

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  39. DlJ, I respect the hell out of what you do, and I think you are great to listen to (you should do your own show), but I guess, politically, we are always gonna be at loggerheads.

    Chris Drake, on the other hand, is just disgusting.

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  40. Not always, but even if we agree to disagree, I hope we still hear each other out.

    As for me doing my own show, give it time. I am a media guy, so who knows?

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  41. Hey, anon, you've got a little something brown on your nose! I can't say I'm suprised at seeing a conservative back down so easily.

    Got anything to support your arguement against white people? I'd like to hear how I'm "disgusting." What I don't care to hear is another one of your made up fairy tales about the NS killing Catholics, babies, puppies and kittens, etc. Is that how you validate yourself? Yeah, everyone has been nearly killed off by the Nazis, right? Sorry, the jews have officially cornered the market on that, my friend. Let's hear all about what your wonderful, conservative, chicken-shit government turned its back on during the days of the USSR! Let's here how the compasionate-push-over conservatives let millions die at the hands of the jews in the Ukraine and Russia. Let's talk about how they were too afraid of what there domestic jewish masters would think if they so much as raised a hand against it. Let's hear about how they sold out the American people in WW2 the same way Bush did in Iraq! (hint: get elected BEFORE you ignore the voters and follow the jews).

    Conservatism IS based in racism but not open racism like the kind that will get you in trouble. Conservatism of this era is a way to fencewalk between the jews and wealthy whites and get into office at the same time. You can preport to love non-whites but hate immigration, black crime etc. all you want. Conservatism is just right wing, well funded, although, closet racism. Nobody is fooling anyone, no matter how many token non-whites you surround yourself with. Hey, pal, it takes one to know one. I'm racist and I'm man enough to say it.

    You see, I haven't always been well off money wise. I've had to really fight my way to the top. In doing so, I realize that the problems aren't just jews and non-whites. The problems are also right wing conservatives that leave icky, street racism to the unwashed, working class whites. They are just as racist, if not more so. They can just afford to side-step issues by writing a check. They do more to hold whites down than the jews do (mainly out of fear of the jews and their power). I put guys like you, the kiss-up conservative right winger, right up there with the jews. They couldn't exist without you and you think you would cease to exist without them.

    I'll be damned, I'm half-way into answering DLJ's question! I'll be back!

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  42. Oh, this is the answer to my question? Better shoot out the other half, because so far nothing you are talking sounds even remotely left wing.

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  43. I was starting to get into it, sure. Let's here what you think being left wing is. Its not about all that hippy-love stuff like people assosiate it with here in the US. Its anything from the workers up, instead of the money down. Of course in National Socialism, its based in Nationalism, nature, self-preservation and yes, at the helm is the struggle of the white worker. Don't get me wrong, there is zero common ground between you and I. I'm not necessarily saying I'm leftist and you aren't or we both are. I could care less what you define yourself as. What you say and do is what writes the lable.

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  44. I have to agree with Stefan as to the identity of the anonymous judeo-kahnservative poster.

    If this is how he's going to "hide" his identity when he "comes back" he might as well just keep posting as "EB".

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  45. Anything from the workers up instead of the money down. Okay, I will accept that. Everything else you said is BS. From your definition, you know that in the end it is class, not nationality that figures in the most with leftists. There cannot be any real concentration with nationalism, because we recognize that all of this is a class struggle. Nationalism is a defense mechanism for people who for one reason or another feel weak and need the collective strength of others to stay on their feet, so to speak. What better way to rally people than around a flag? The problem is, Nationalism is a false strength, and it encourages weak-minded people to act negatively towards those whom they would have no argument with if the recognized the class struggle first.

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  46. Ok, where were we? Class is the issue, not race. Nationalism is for stupid people who are weak. Ok. There are class issues but they stem from racial issues. Everything is about race when more than once race are forced to share anything. You'd sooner keep the sun from rising than change that. Its nature and no more than putting on a dress and a wig makes you a regular woman, mental constructs like equality won't fly long in the natural world.

    Nationalism is for the weak. Nationalism is the only reason you have a well off country to live in. I guess every bit of nationalism is from weak minded people, huh? Let's see you say jews are weak minded for demanding a jewish homeland. The whole state of israel is all about people being weak minded, huh? Go ahead, Daryle, bite the hand that feeds. Do it right here on this blog. Call the jews and their nationalism a sign they are weak minded. That will make my Friday right here.

    Class is a problem in the white community as I've stated before. Its a problem because more wealthy whites pretend not to be racist. The overwhealming majority of whites are racist. ALL whites are racist on some level or another. Heck, Daryle, you're racist yourself but remember in the words of South Park "Its not facist because we don't call it that." Being a fan of the grey-race or monoracial world is more racist in itself than any one person thinking he'd rather be around his own.

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  47. Well for one thing, I didn't say "Nationalism is for stupid people who are weak." It's not about being stupid, it's about being afraid, and we have all been that. Nationalism helps alleviate fears of going through things alone, and damned if your most hardcore Nationalists are the most lonely and scared people in the world. It's not a dis, hell I don't think ill of anyone because of it. I am just stating a fact. And is it weak-minded, yes. Every last bit of it. Is it weak-minded for the Jews to demand a Jewish homeland. No more or no less than it is of you or I to demand a homeland that caters to our respective cultures. Let's be real, you have a world of weak-mindedness there! And that lends creedence to where you said, "Everything is about race when more than once race are forced to share anything." That is not because of how things work, but rather how we made things work. In truth, everything being about race is a smokescreen, when it gets lifted, a lot of elitists freak out. Malcolm X wasn't killed until after he started embracing Muslims from other nationalities. Martin Luther King was killed after he started addressing class issues. Both these men were responsible in uprooting and remaking the blueprint of society by killing the racial caste system we had in this nation, and when they were getting ready to apply their efforts to the economic caste system, that was a real problem. Sorry, I didn't make your Friday as I wrote this Sunday morning, but I hope I didn't disappoint.

    But tell me, what makes me racist, eh?

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  48. LIGHTENING RADIO WAS HARRASSED BY THE HAL TURNER SHOW AND BECAUSE OF HIM HE ALMOST LOST HIS FCC LICENSE BECAUSE HAL TURNER IS NOT FCC LICENSED UNLIKE YOU AND ME I PAY $305.00 A YR FOR MY LICENSE AND ALL THE OTHER FEES SO HAL TURNER IS A JOKE AND A DISGRACE AND FLOYD I REALLY DO HOPE YOU CAN SHUT THAT IDIOT DOWN

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  49. FLOYD WAS RIGHT BOUT HAL TURNER
    HAL TURNER IS A LIAR AND A CHEAT AND DOESNT PAY TAXES ON HIS DONATION AND FURTHERMORE HAL TURNER DOES NOT HAVE A FCC LICENSE AND IS NOT PATING ROAYILITY FEES LIKE I DO AND I BROADCAST LEGALLY UNLIKE HIM AND I DONT HARRASS OR THREATEN BLACKS OR HISPANICS LIKE HIS DOES AND I DONT THREATENING GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS LIKE HIS DOES AND HAL TURNER AND HIS LITTLE BUTTHEADS WHO HAVE BEEN THREATENING THIS RADIO STATION BECAUSE ITS BEING RAN BY A CHEROKEE INDIAN WHO SAID TO US IN AN EMAIL YOU INDIANS MUST BE REMOVED FROM THIS COUNTRY

    I KNOW HAL READS THESE SO HAL TURNER GO BLOW

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  50. Hello Lightening. So, you say that Mr. Turner tried to harass someone? Where is this radio station based?

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  51. HAL TURNER HAS HARRASSED ME ALSO AND WAS HAVING HIS FRIENDS PINGING MY COMPUTER WITH PACKETS SENT AND DAMAGED MY COMPUTER I JUST GOT ANOTHER SYSTEM SO LIGHTENING RADIO ISNT THE ONLY ONE HE BEEN HARRASSING AND IM USING PIRATE RADIO AND LIGHTENING RADIO WAS ON PIRATE RADIO BUT NOW HE OFF THE AIR BECAUSE OF HAL TURNER AND HE IS REALLY PISSED AND IM REALLY PISSED AND A FEW OTHERS ARE GETTING PISSED ON SHOUTCAST ALSO

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  52. i was based on pirate radio now were switching to live 365 sometime in August if things work out and we are changing the station name also so hal turner cant harrass me anymore

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  53. here is what he wrote us
    From: Hal Turner halturnershow@optonline.net
    Subject:[spam] get off the air
    To: lightening radiolrn2@rochester.rr.com
    Message-id: 44A0530A.7030508@optonline.net
    MIME-version: 1.0
    Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
    Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
    User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516)
    Original-recipient: rfc822;lrn2@rochester.rr.com
    X-BitDefenderWKS-Flags:H_SPAMMY_HEADER_MAILS;
    X-BitDefenderWKS-Spam: Yes - 888 [spam]

    FUCK YOU AND THE KIKE THAT YOU ARE YOUR A NIGGER A JEW AND A MUSLIM SANDNIGGER stay off the radio and use your welfare check for food looser

    Hal Turner

    the ips are listed below for you all to see

    68.193.56.141
    167.206.4.197

    NUMBER 1 I DONT GET WELFARE AND 2 I WORK I DONT SIT HOME ALL DAY AND PLAY KIDS GAMES LIKE HE DOES AND NIKKI MY RADIO IS BASED OUT OF UPSTATE N.Y BUFFALO AREA

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  55. hey nikki here an ideal get a rallt in front of hal turners house . get the latinos african americans and the italians and other groups and really get hal turner upset that guy will loose it and start crying on his webpage and on his radio and expose him for who his is with news media present. lets harrass him

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  56. Lightening - how did you manage to piss Hal Turner off - I mean, did you broadcast something about him? What did you do to incur his wrath?

    I like the idea of harassing him right back! That appeals to my sense of "fair play." LOL

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  57. yes we did we broadcasted a story about him on pirate radio and on shoutcast back in oct of last year and someone told him that we broadcasted the story and they contacted him and we also posted the story on our webpage and he got the acct banned by saying something about slander . also nikki im on inspeak voice chat under dr grumpy also so if you want to visit me and the rest of the people let me know ok

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  58. I would love to visit you guys! ;)

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  59. nikki the chat link is www.inspeak.com down load it im under dr grumpy im in the help lobby right now ill be on untill 1:30 am ok

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  60. lightening - that chat thing just doesn't want to do right on my computer. You can find me on yahoo under nicolenichols, or my email is nicolenichols@sbcglobal.net

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  61. http://newsreports.bravehost.com/index.html

    is our news storys main page which includes hal turner show story we have updated that pages for news in rochester thats where im from but moved here to get away from family member i dont want to associate with any longer

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  62. Daryle, ok, for the record, I've got you saying zionist jews are on the same page as white nationalists? I want to see just how much you know about how things work.

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  63. EMAIL RECEIVED
    Sir:
    This is to inform you that one of your web site is located at:
    http://lighteningradio.bravehost.com/ is once again infringing on our
    Copyright in violation of 17 United States Code 106 through 122. This
    latest violation takes the form of photographs and screen shots of
    material off of web sites owned by us. (i.e. www.HalTurnerShow.com)

    Pursuant to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DCMA), notice is
    hereby served upon you that this violation is taking place.
    We respectfully assert our Copyright and humbly but firmly demand
    immediate removal of the offending material or we will compel removal of
    such material via Court of competent Jurisdiction, and seek actual and
    punitive damages as allowed by law.
    This is NOT the first time that the offending web site has undertaken
    such violations and we are growing weary of having to undergo this
    removal process over and over. Please take steps to assure this type of
    violation, ceases forever.

    Thank you for your anticipated cooperation.

    TURNER RADIO NETWORK
    1906 Paterson Plank Road
    North Bergen, NJ 07047
    201-484-7809

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  64. our pest hal turner making threats on his website again

    Coming this Wednessay on "The Hal Turner Show:"

    LYNCHING CONGRESSWOMAN
    CYNTHIA MCKINNEY:
    SHOULD IT BE DONE BEFORE HER JULY 18 PRIMARY ELECTION?
    Tune-in to "The Hal Turner Show" this Wednesday evening from 9:00-11:00 PM eastern US time as we talk about this topic!

    Cynthia McKinney is a violent, black, racist, bitch whose official re-election campaign web site calls white people "crackers" (see story below .). As such, on this Wednesday evening's show I will ask the question "Given the prevalence of black crime in America, would it serve the public good to LYNCH Congresswoman McKinney within the next few weeks, while she's on the campaign trail, so as to send an unmistakable message to other blacks: "white people are tired of your bullshit, behave or die."

    That's just ONE of the topics we'll be talking about this Wednesday evening on The Hal Turner Show. Tune-in FREE by clicking the LISTEN LIVE logos at the top right of this page (when the show is airing) between 9:00 and 11:00 PM Eastern Time this Wednesday!
    Tuesday, June 27 2006 9:56 AM EDT

    OFFICIAL CONGRESSIONAL RE-ELECTION WEB SITE OF BLACK CONGRESSWOMAN CALLS WHITE PEOPLE "CRACKERS"!
    VERY FIRST SENTENCE OF CYNTHIA MCKINNEY'S SITE SPEWS RACISM!
    I don't know of any Republicans who refer to Ms. McKinney as a "nigger," so why is her official re-election web site referring to white folks as "crackers?"

    This conduct by Ms. McKinney is bringing disrepute upon the entire US House of Representatives. But Ms. McKinney is no stranger to disrepute: she is the same member of Congress who recently got away with punching a (white) U.S. Capitol Police Officer. Maybe McKinney should be exposed to some REAL white racism? I wonder how she would look swinging from the end of a rope?

    HMMMMM. I wonder what the reaction would be if an incumbant negress member of congress was LYNCHED on the campaign trail, in her home state of Georgia, before the July 18 Primary Election?

    I bet such a lynching would get an awful lot of coverage and send a powerful message to every uppity nigger in the country - "even the most powerful niggers can get lynched!!"

    Let's talk about this on my show this Wednesday night: "LYNCHING CONGRESSWOMAN CYNTHIA MCKINNEY - an idea whose time has come????"!

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  65. i see that on your webpage about the emails and the threast did you screen shot those for proof of what he doing which is a good ideal and id pass them to floyd and let him see them also

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  66. HAL TURNER WHINNING ON THE AIR TONIGHT FOR 15 MINS AND 6 SEC THATS WAS HIS SHOW TONIGHT I HAVE THE AUDIO OF IT ANYONE WANTS IT CONTACT ME AT Y2KRULESYOU@YAHOO.COM

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  67. hal turners trying a new tactic i see this was off his webpage today and also i will be on vacation monday tuesday for the holiday

    NEW:
    HAL TURNER
    "INNER CIRCLE!"
    If you live in the New Jersey, New York City Area . . . . .
    and would like to get together with me (and other like-minded folks) from time to time to socialize, talk about the radio show, web site or "other issues" please get in touch with me!!!
    Doing the radio show is fun for me, but socializing and enjoying the company of like-minded folks is better.
    If you live locally and would like to get together to forge friendships and create a sort of "inner circle" please e-mail me so we can arrange something.

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  68. FROM THE CONMAN HAL TURNER WEBSITE

    BAD NEWS FROM HIS SITE

    !!! $4,359 !!!
    . . . . the show will go on!

    MEANING THAT THIS JERK WILL STAY ON THE AIR DAM IM WONDERING IF FLOYD CAN CHECK TO SEE IF HE AYING TAXES ON HIS DONATIONS OR REPORT IT AND VERIFY THAT HE IS

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  69. TOP NEWS STORYS
    former lightening radio live 365

    HAL TURNER LIES ABOUT THE AGE CHANGE IN THE DRAFT FROM 18 YRS OLD TO 25 YRS OLD MAKES FAULSE CLAIMS IT WILL BE 18 YRS OLD TO 41 WE HAVE THE TOP STORY OF ALL THE LIES HE POSTED ON HIS WEBSITE
    FOR WEEKS RACIST MAD RADIO HOST HAL TURNER MAKES FAULSE STATEMENTS ON HIS WEBSITE CLAIMING THAT THE DRAFT AGE WILL CHANGE WE CONTACTED SELECTIVE SERVICE AND VERIFY THIS STORY . IT SEEMS HAL TURNER KNOWN RACIST CANT PROVIDE TRUTH TO ANY OF HIS STATEMENTS WE LEARN TO DAY FROM THE SELECTIVE SERVICE THERE IS NO DRAFT CHANGE INFACT WE ARE GOING TO POST THERE STATEMENT HERE AND PROVIDE YOU WITH INFORMATION ABOUT SIGNING UP ITS THE LAW

    Dear Sir:

    The age change you mentioned below is NOT true. Please carefully read the information provided below:

    WHO MUST REGISTER:

    Virtually all young men who are U.S. citizens and “immigrant” male aliens living in the U.S. (both documented and undocumented) between the ages of 18 through 25 years must register with Selective Service, in accordance with Federal law. We do accept late registrations, even though men are required to register within 30 days of their 18th birthday. However, once a man reaches age 26, we cannot, per law, accept his registration. Even men with handicaps, missing a limb, blind, etc., are required to register. There is no draft at present and therefore, no classifying being done. The last man was drafted in 1973, after which the U.S. converted to an all-volunteer military. However, Congress and the President still require men to register and the Selective Service System is kept in a standby status, just in case a future crisis necessitates a return to the draft. Only at that time would you receive an induction notice to report for mental, physical, and moral aptitude testing and being classified. By registering, a man complies with Federal law, and he also keeps himself eligible for programs and benefits Congress has connected to the registration requirement. A man must be registered to stay eligible for student loans and grants for college, most Federal employment, all background security clearances, many state jobs, vocational training under the Workforce Investment Act, and citizenship (if he is not yet a U.S. citizen). Several states have also now passed State Legislation requiring a man to be registered in order to obtain a new or renew an old State Driver’s License, or obtain an identification Card.
    HOW TO REGISTER:IF you are between the ages of 18 through 25 years and have a valid social security number, you may register on-line by visiting our web site: http://www.sss.gov, click on “Register on-line Now”, fill in the on-screen form that appears (using no punctuation), and click on “Submit.” If you have successfully registered and all your information matches our database, your Registration Number and date of registration will appear immediately. Print out this “official” on-line verification page to use as proof of your registration, until your new Registration Acknowledgment Card, listing you Registration Number, arrives in the mail within 4 to 6 weeks. When this card arrives, confirm that all the information listed is correct. Please keep this important document in a safe place, for future use throughout your entire life. You are not currently required to carry this document on your person; just keep it safe.

    IF you should receive a message on-line that your information does not match or is not yet listed in our database, you MUST obtain a Selective Service mail-back registration card from any U.S. Post Office (or just use the registration reminder card you may have received in the mail), fill it out (leaving the spaces for your Social Security Number blank, if you have not yet obtained one), sign, and return to the address provided on the card. You will receive your new Registration Acknowledgment Card, listing your Registration Number, in the mail within approximately 45 days. Confirm that all the information listed on this new card is correct. Please keep this important document in a safe place, for future use throughout your entire life. You are not currently required to carry this document on your person; just keep it safe. OR: Here is the link to the registration mail-back form: http://www4.sss.gov/regver/sssRegform.pdf Users should be directed to this form if on-line registration fails. Print out this form, complete it, using black ink and printing clearly (leaving the spaces for your Social Security Number blank, if you have not yet obtained one), sign, enclose in an envelope with appropriate postage attached, and mail to the address provided on the form.

    Thanks for writing, and I hope the above provided information proves helpful.

    Janice L. Hughes

    Public and Intergovernmental Affairs

    Selective Service System

    followup on this story

    if you dont register this is what happends

    Registration is the law. A man who fails to register may, if prosecuted and convicted, face a fine of up to $250,000 and/or a prison term of up to five years.

    Even if not tried, a man who fails to register with Selective Service before turning age 26 may find that some doors are permanently closed.

    See also Men over the age of eligibility to register.
    See also What Does Selective Service Provide for America.

    Register Now! - Register on-line.

    STUDENT FINANCIAL AID
    Men, born after December 31, 1959, who aren't registered with Selective Service won't qualify for Federal student loans or grant programs. This includes Pell Grants, College Work Study, Guaranteed Student/Plus Loans, and National Direct Student Loans.

    CITIZENSHIP
    The U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) makes registration with Selective Service a condition for U.S. citizenship if the man first arrived in the U.S. before his 26th birthday.

    FEDERAL JOB TRAINING
    The Workforce Investment Act (formerly called the Job Training Partnership Act - JTPA) offers programs that can train young men for jobs in auto mechanics and other skills. This program is only open to those men who register with Selective Service. Only men born after December 31, 1959, are required to show proof of registration.

    FEDERAL JOBS
    A man must be registered to be eligible for jobs in the Executive Branch of the Federal government and the U.S. Postal Service. Proof of registration is required only for men born after December 31, 1959.

    Some states have added additional penalties for those who fail to register. See State Legislation.

    Selective Service wants young men to register. It does not want them to be prosecuted or denied benefits. If a draft is ever needed, it must be as fair as possible, and that fairness depends on having as many eligible men as possible registered. In the event of a draft, for every man who fails to register, another man would be required to take his place in service to his country.

    WOMEN AND THE DRAFT


    Women Aren't Required to Register
    Here's why:
    THE LAW
    Selective Service law as it's written now refers specifically to "male persons" in stating who must register and who would be drafted. For women to be required to register with Selective Service, Congress would have to amend the law.

    THE SUPREME COURT
    The constitutionality of excluding women was tested in the courts. A Supreme Court decision in 1981, Rostker v. Goldberg, held that registering only men did not violate the due process clause of the Constitution.

    DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
    At President Clinton's request, the Department of Defense reviewed this issue in 1994. DoD noted that America's prior drafts were used to supply adequate numbers of Army ground combat troops. Because women are excluded by policy from front line combat positions, excluding them from the draft process remains justifiable in DoD's view. Although no conclusions were reached, DoD recognized that policies regarding women need to be reviewed periodically because the role of women in the military continues to expand.

    The Selective Service System, if given the mission and additional funding, is capable of registering and drafting women with its existing infrastructure.

    (A backgrounder on Women and the Draft is available at this site.)

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  70. Turner, Vazquez duel ends in fiery courtroom drama
    After months of name-calling and dramatics, the battle between hate-radio talk show host Hal Turner and former Jersey City Councilman Jaime Vazquez ended today when a North Bergen Municipal Court judge dismissed dueling assault complaints.

    It may have been a whimper of an ending, but the courtroom was alive with drama as both men took the stand.

    Get the full story and read some of the startling testimony in tomorrow's Jersey Journal.

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  71. Turner, Vazquez duel ends in fiery courtroom drama
    After months of name-calling and dramatics, the battle between hate-radio talk show host Hal Turner and former Jersey City Councilman Jaime Vazquez ended today when a North Bergen Municipal Court judge dismissed dueling assault complaints.

    It may have been a whimper of an ending, but the courtroom was alive with drama as both men took the stand.

    Get the full story and read some of the startling testimony in tomorrow's Jersey Journal.

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  72. NEITHER GUILTY
    Tuesday, July 11, 2006
    • NEITHER GUILTY
    NORTH BERGEN - A municipal court judge dismissed the dueling assault complaints filed by radio talk show host Hal Turner and former Jersey City Councilman Jaime Vazquez, ruling the court couldn't determine who was telling the truth about their April scuffle outside Turner's home.
    Turner 'pleased'; Vazquez vows civil suit
    Tuesday, July 11, 2006
    By BONNIE FRIEDMANJOURNAL STAFF WRITER
    NORTH BERGEN - A municipal court judge dismissed the dueling assault complaints filed by radio talk show host Hal Turner and former Jersey City Councilman Jaime Vazquez, ruling the court couldn't determine who was telling the truth about their April scuffle outside Turner's home.
    "Frankly, I find both witnesses to be credible," said Judge Joseph I. Romano. "I find both witnesses to be vehement in espousing their views and because their views diverge, there has to be some tension. Who pushed who is something this court cannot determine beyond a reasonable doubt." The judge found each man not guilty of the assault charges, and also found Vazquez not guilty of an additional harassment charge.
    Vazquez's confrontation with Turner, who has a Web site espousing white supremacist views, took place two days after an immigration-rights rally in Liberty State Park.
    Turner, who hired an airplane to carry a banner with an anti-Mexican slur over the rally, later told The Jersey Journal that since illegal immigrants were breaking the law, "people like me" could break the law as well by "shooting them down."
    After reading Turner's comments, Vazquez marched outside Turner's Paterson Plank Road condominium complex in his Marine uniform, carrying a sign reading: "Hal Turner - shoot me! Racists and bigots like you are cowards."
    Phyllis Turner, Hal's wife, was first to take the stand, testifying Vazquez cursed at her and her 11-year-old son as they pulled up to the condominium complex on April 12.
    Hal Turner said he then grabbed his digital camera and went outside to confront a "wild-eyed" Vazquez, who he said continued to curse at him.
    "Mr. Vazquez got so close that his nose and my nose were astride each other," Turner testified. "Mr. Vazquez (refused to leave) and he shoved me. I felt threatened, and then I shoved him back."
    Turner said he didn't push the much smaller Vazquez hard enough to knock the man down, but Vazquez fell anyway.
    I put him in the gutter where he belonged," an angry Turner said. "If I wanted to hurt him, he would have been hurt."
    Vazquez was later treated for a broken left wrist. He also said he hurt his back in the fall.
    Vazquez, a Vietnam veteran and the director of the Jersey City Office of Veterans Affairs, said he never insulted Phyllis Turner and never used foul or threatening language.
    Instead, Vazquez said, Turner blocked his path and told him to "get off his sidewalk." Then, Vazquez said, Turner stepped on his toe and pushed him, causing him to lose his balance and fall to the ground.
    "He said, 'You either leave on your own or you leave in an ambulance,'" Vazquez said, "and then he pushed me down and I left in an ambulance."
    Immediately after the verdict, Vazquez said he was disappointed by the judge's decision, adding that he planned to file a civil suit against Turner.
    "We made our point," Vazquez said. "Whenever racism rears its ugly head, we have to be there to confront it."
    Turner said simply: "I am very pleased with the outcome."
    On his Web site, Turner claimed he was accompanied in court by an imperial wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and a member of the National Vanguard, a white separatist organization.
    "The contingency plans I made privately with National Vanguard, the Ku Klux Klan, Aryan Nations and the National Socialist (NAZI) Movement will not be needed. I thank those folks for being willing to step up in service to our race and in defense of me," Turner wrote yesterday on his Web site, without explaining the nature of those contingency plans.

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  73. HAL TURNER PAID OFF THE JUDGE PEOPLE WE KNOW THAT ALLREADY OR MAYBE THE JUDGE IS A RACIST WITH HAL TURNER OR MAYBE A KKK MEMBER OR A NEO NAZI DID ANYONE REALLY THINK OF THAT

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  74. I AM NOW MAKING THE ANNOUNCEMENT AS OF JULY 22ND 2006 TO THE FOLLOWING FLOYD AND NICKI AND MR JENKINS STARTING AUGUST 1ST 2006 AT 12 AM EST THE NEW RADIO STATION WILL BE LAUNCHED ON LIVE 365 THE NEW STATION IS CALLED BRAVEHOST RADIO YOU CAN VISIT OUR NEW WEBSITE AT WWW.BRAVEHOSTRADIO.BRAVEHOST.COM WE HOPE YOU AND YOUR LISTENERS WILL JOIN US ON AUGUST 1ST THANK YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT DAY

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  75. HAL TURNER THREATS ISRAELIS WITH BOMB THREATS SEE LINKS BELOW YOU WONT SEEANYWHERE ELSE http://thhttp://thumbsnap.com/v/NvJ5xEpL.jpg' title='Image Hosted by ThumbSnap'>http://thumbsnap.com/v/NvJ5xEpL
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  76. requarding this story The Hal Turner Show "The voice of the common faggot . . . ." we have sent the fbi in buffalo n.y screen shots of all of the terrorist threats i will be following this up shortly in the upcoming days
    OUR NEWS | Homepage | 07.26.06 - 2:18 am | #

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