June 21 One People Radio Program - This week's program is a round table discussion hosted by Floyd Cochran with Nikki from Citizens Against Hate and DLJ from One Peoples Project, Josh from NY. Tonight we discuss the death of an anti-racist comrade, "Black Power" groups,Hal Turner, Project for Change, plus much more. Be sure to read full texts articles on the Citizens Against Hate website and One Peoples Project website.TO THE SHOW
Hal Turner had a pretty rough go of it last night on his broadcast. First there was Tony Willow who did a good job of establishing whether or not Hal pays taxes on his donations.
WILLOW AUDIO
Then there was Floyd Cochran who made quick work of Hal and his "bullshit."
FLOYD AUDIO
All-in-all, with a couple of other callers, it should have become pretty obvious that the focus of the heat is on Hal - and we aren't stopping there.
Bill White is tearing apart the Vinlanders while isolating the NSM from a lot of other groups.
ReplyDeleteGlad the ARA has one of their own running the NSM.
Well Cris you will have to tune in to next's weeks OPR program - I am going to address the issues you bring up here.
ReplyDeleteThere is no difference between this gang that was arrested for plotting to blow up the Sears Towers and the gang of whites who blew up the Fed. building in Oklahoma. Both are terrorist.
Like I said you will have to tune in next week.
Floyd
Yes Chris I know who you are and yes I try to be polite to all people regardless of thier political ideas.
ReplyDeleteAnd I do not believe that Mcviegh was the only one involved in bombing the OK building, I think that Mark Thomas and his gang of Aryan bank robbers where also involved.
we will be chatting on OPR next week about a lot of things - which I am sure you will find interesting.
thanks for posting
Floyd
Actually Chris - I have already have the guests lined up for next week's show - and personally I am not a big fan of Bill so really dont care what he has to say, about the only thing I would be interested in hearing from Bill is the following " good-bye cruel world" BAng then followed by silence.
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Hi Chris - Floyd again - Chris you seem like an smart person - why are you a racist ?
ReplyDeletethanks - Floyd
Chris you wrote "Do you think we could march down the street carrying shot guns like the Black Panthers did? "
ReplyDeleteapparently you have never been in small towns in central Pennsylvania, it is not uncommon to see people walking down the road or a street carrying guns,esp in the fall.
Also, I willl point out that in the early 1990's when the militia movement was going strong - several militias in Michigan for instant held out door public meetings carring guns.
Would you have shown the same concerned ?
In 2002 I believe August Kreis from Aryan Nations was photographed with several other people all carrying guns, where was your concern then ?
or is it that you are only concerned or afraid of People of Color with guns ?
Floyd
Odd how only Overthrowup contains news of the alleged death of a Mr. Chris Gromburg at the order of Brien James.
ReplyDeleteDespite the presence of a dead body, no news services have reported on the supposedly murdered Gromburg, nor have any legitimate news sites besides Overthrowup reported on Vinlander activity in recent weeks.
Must be that ZOG conspiracy.
"...about the only thing I would be interested in hearing from Bill is the following " good-bye cruel world" BAng then followed by silence...."-Floyd Cochran
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Right on!
Keep up the good work Floyd!
Ya know Mike, I looked all over for that as well. But then again this IS Bill White we are talking about. He wouldn't know the truth from a bag of fruit loops.
ReplyDeleteActually there is a difference between white supremacist gangs and black supremacist gangs in terrorism.
ReplyDeleteThe white supremacist gangs actually blew something up and killed 180+ people.
The black supremacist gang had no weapons and no bombs. They only talked about doing it.
Now figure that Hal Turner talked about bombing federal buildings and killing judges and nothing happens to him.
Then add Bill White praising school shootings and Vonbluvens praising the 911 attacks at first.
Something is wrong.
HistoryMike,
ReplyDeleteBill White is tearing apart a white supremacist group that is at least a dozen times larger then the NSM.
The Vinlanders draw several 100 to their events. The NSM draws a few dozen at most with their numbers declining.
Generally, as unfortunate as it may seem, you will never completely rid the world of skinheads.
ReplyDeleteI honestly wish it could be otherwise, but even skinhead rock is mainstream now, and the style is too ingrained in the social construct. It's like "bikers", or straight-up "rednecks".
Of course, not all Skins are racists , by an shot, but nearly all of them are a nuisance.
Out of the "100's" that show up at a Vinlanders event, how many of them are hardcore Nazis, and how many of them are just beer-guzzling yobs?
I bet you'd be surprised. They probably aren't as massive a force as you might think, and nearly all of them are already, most likely, "checked into the system".
Just waiting till they commit their next felony, and the next, then BLAMMO!--twenty years behind bars, and the next one lines up to take their place.
The NSM is more dangerous, because they linger longer, like a fart in a room, and they try to cover up their odious funk with a percentage of legal respectability.
Look at the photos over at Billy Bumps blog--no one is EVER gonna take a skinhead crew like that seriously for ANY reason--except, maybe, as potential future wards of the prison/industrial complex!
ROTFLMAO!
Chris,
ReplyDeleteFor a supposedly revolutionary movement, it's odd how often the NSM uncritically accepts government/MSM propaganda as fact.
From Kurt Nimmo:
ABC News reports: "An FBI informant posed as an emissary from al Qaeda and administered oaths of allegiance to the seven Miami men charged today with providing material support to al Qaeda…. An outline of the indictments to be announced later today indicates the men began meeting with an unnamed FBI informant in November 2005. Justice Department officials say the informant provided boots and a video camera so the men could obtain surveillance pictures of government buildings in Miami."
In other words, this whole affair is a government set-up, engineered to hype the "homegrown" threat of domestic terrorism, that next phase of the neocon effort to trash the Constitution and further militarize society in preparation for World War Four, the generational crusade made in Israel and transplanted in America, the only nation on earth with the required military prowess and a population sufficiently brainwashed and easily frightened by phony terrorists.
This is already bearing a striking resemblance to the arrest of the "homegrown terrorist cell" in Toronto, as well.
If the government line is also going to be the NSM line, then ... well ... I wish I could say I'm surprised. But I clearly remember links to articles by self-serving chosenites like Melanie Phillips and Mark Steyn, as well as a reposting of a BNP article that poo-poo'd away all those who were asking perfectly legitimate, and still unanswered, questions about the 7/7 bombings in London, all appearing on the NSM homepage.
And the government targets all those whom it believes threatens its tightening stranglehold on power equally.
Or do you believe that those who were murdered in the MOVE bombing in Philly are any more or less dead than the Weaver family, and those immolated children in Waco.
Tim McVeigh was not in any White Supremacy gangs, nor did any White Supremacists blow anything up killing 180 people. That's a total fabrication.
ReplyDeleteIf you beleive the government reporting of events McVeigh was inspired to blow up the Murray Federal Building in retaliation for the murder of 17 children at Waco. Waco was a religious community that had negroes and multi-racial babies inside, hardly a motivation for White Supremacists.
As far as any information about White Supremacy being connected to the OKC bombing it comes from SPLC and Morris Dees spies after the fact and if it is true then it accounts for his having direct knowledge of the bomb plot before it happend and a failure to notify the authorities.
The only connection to McVeigh and any White Supremacist bank robbers comes from a man who was tortured to death in a federal holding cell. Somehow I don't consider that reliable information.
As for Floyd Cockrat, I wouldn't mind hearing he smoked one too many joints some night and blew his brains out either. Someone should have helped him along with it years ago.
Nice icon, DLJ.
ReplyDeleteRuby Ridge pissed off a lot of people. Obviously the federal government was at fault for murdering 42-year-old Mrs. Weaver, her 14-year-old son, and their family pet, a golden retriever. The millions of dolalrs in judgement against the government in a wrongful death lawsuit by her husband proves this point.
ReplyDeleteNone the less the main reason for the Oklahoma City bombing was Waco, and the Seventh Day Adventists center where the federal government burned 17 little children to death. There is little room to debate against this premise. The bombing was designed to correlate to te exact moment of the memorial ceremony to remember the victims of the Waco murders. News of the bombing was announced to the crowd of mourners at that ceremony, and the targetting of the Murray building which was headquarters to the ATF involved in the raid and served as a headquarters for the planning and execution of the raids.
Any connection to the Ruby Ridge massacre is speculative and merely shows sympathy to the Weaver family and their tragic loss that was shared by all good Americans and people around the world. I'm sure McVeigh had heard of it as most people had. However he was not a friend or acquantaince of the Weaver family.
As you can see that I have no hesitation to expound on this topic the ommission was only because it has little bearing on the topic of Tim McVeigh.
Chris Drake
ReplyDeletewho side you on hal turner side or the one peoples project side with floyd and nikki plz makeup your mind your like a mother in law with hemeroids jumping back and forth
Chris Drake got his nose so far up hal turner butt tocks he can tastye his breakfest i say
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ReplyDeleteTONIGHT HAL WAS WHINNG ABOUT SURPPORT TONIGHT AND STATED THAT IF HE DOESNT GET SURPPORT HE IS TERMINATING THE SHOW SO CHRIS DRAKE SINCE YOUR BUDDY IS CRYING PLZ GO CHANGE HIS DIAPER PLZ AND TELL HIM LIGHTENING SAID STOP ACTING LIKE A BABY AND GROW UP
Chris said...
ReplyDelete"Hal's listeners have every right under US law to send money to Hal. Under the same system, Hal has every right to make a living from what he does."
Normally I would agree with this statement. However, since he chooses to make a living inciting others to commit crimes, calling for assassinations, and recommending violence, I tend to think otherwise. The entire idea of "Freedom of Speech" is being bastardized by the neo-Nazi's. When your freedom of speech interferes with others being secure in their existence, your right ends. Take for example, Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney from your neck of the woods. I don't agree with a lot of what she says. I would probably never cast a vote for her. But calling for her to be lynched along the campaign trail - is, to me, criminal. While I don't care for her politics I respect her right to run for office and to seek reelection. She should be able to do that without being threatened or feeling unsafe.
Chris said...
" If someone wants to send Hal money because they like his show, then fine. He can spend it all at party-dollar for all I care."
Ya know, you are right - however, we will continue to point out that Hal is a con man and a manipulator and those who donate have been bamboozled or are really not very smart. Additionally, Hal manages to garner a lot of information about those who send in checks and use credit cards. Hence, many people are being put at risk if there is any credence to him being an informant. Now, you might not care about that either, but I see it as something that should alarm a lot of people.
Chris said...
"Hal says a lot of over the top stuff. He says things I wouldn't dream of saying, even if I did think they needed to be said, on my radio show. I consider it entertainment, though. Apparently all of Hal's listeners feel the same way since no one has ever acted on Hal's zanny proposals to kill people and what not."
All it takes is one unstable individual - you know that. And...why wouldn't you say the same thing if you thought it needed to be said? Additionally, "entertainment?" What is entertaining about inciting people to do harm to others? If Hal's claims to number of listeners are true (which they aren't) and if his listeners see this as "entertaining," then we have an even bigger problem than we thought.
Chris said...
"I think a lot of recovering neo-cons like Hal's show along with a lot of leaderless resistance types."
You will have to enlighten me as to what you consider a "recovering neo-con." As to the leaderless resistance types - they are precisely the ones who need to be watched 24/7.
Chris said...
"Unless they are very old, they've grown up listening and seeing their existence threatened, in one way or another. They get a kick out of hearing someone threatening back. I don't get much out of "someone should kill Mckinney" but some people do."
I don't think age is a factor here. I think emotional and psychological stability is a factor along with morals and values. Now, as I live in the real world, and I have a good social life and working environment and meet new people on a daily basis - I can honestly tell you that outside of a handful of Nazi's the vast majority of white people never even consider their race let alone that their race is "threatened."
Your "truth" Chris is not necessarily the "truth" of the masses. We all come into this realm with our own "truths." Sometimes we see that what we believed to be true is not that way at all - but by and large it is all about perception.
Chris said...
"Anyone who thinks this is horrifying, obviously has never sat in on many black church services in the South. They "vent" worse than Hal Turner does and they are supposed to be in church."
How many black church services in the South or elsewhere have you sat in on, Chris? Sure, some preach hell-fire-and-brimstone, but not all. And that is true of white churches as well. But to attempt to ameliorate Turner's call for murder and mayhem by pointing at church services is bordering on the ridiculous.
Chris said...
"Hal's an easy target. He says shocking things and asks for money."
No - it's not about being an easy target. It's about values and what is moral, right, and just in accordance with mainstream society. The NSM claims to be against violence - yet, you and others can condone or attempt to explain away some of the most violent messages to come out of the movement - how is that?
Lighting Radio -please contact me
ReplyDeleteat frcochran@yahoo.com
would like to chat
Floyd Cochran
Lightening Radio
ReplyDeletecheck your email - I jsut sent you a couple - then get back to me - I dont have a blogger account - so I post anonymous - Floyd
lightening radio leave Chris Drake alone ok because i know who you are hal turner gave me you name and address and where you are asshole
ReplyDeletewow no one like you lightening radio on this blog what dont you take a hike faggot
ReplyDeleteHAL TURNER PAID OFF THE JUDGE PEOPLE WE KNOW THAT ALLREADY OR MAYBE THE JUDGE IS A RACIST WITH HAL TURNER OR MAYBE A KKK MEMBER OR A NEO NAZI DID ANYONE REALLY THINK OF THAT
ReplyDeleteHAL TURNER PAID OFF THE JUDGE PEOPLE WE KNOW THAT ALLREADY OR MAYBE THE JUDGE IS A RACIST WITH HAL TURNER OR MAYBE A KKK MEMBER OR A NEO NAZI DID ANYONE REALLY THINK OF THAT
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