Thursday, June 22, 2006

OPR, CAH, & OPP TOGETHER AGAIN

June 21 One People Radio Program - This week's program is a round table discussion hosted by Floyd Cochran with Nikki from Citizens Against Hate and DLJ from One Peoples Project, Josh from NY. Tonight we discuss the death of an anti-racist comrade, "Black Power" groups,Hal Turner, Project for Change, plus much more. Be sure to read full texts articles on the Citizens Against Hate website and One Peoples Project website.

TO THE SHOW

Hal Turner had a pretty rough go of it last night on his broadcast. First there was Tony Willow who did a good job of establishing whether or not Hal pays taxes on his donations.

WILLOW AUDIO

Then there was Floyd Cochran who made quick work of Hal and his "bullshit."

FLOYD AUDIO

All-in-all, with a couple of other callers, it should have become pretty obvious that the focus of the heat is on Hal - and we aren't stopping there.

47 comments:

  1. Bill White is tearing apart the Vinlanders while isolating the NSM from a lot of other groups.

    Glad the ARA has one of their own running the NSM.

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  2. Floyd, do you think its funny that a black muslim "gang" or group got caught trying to blow up the Sears tower almost the same day you said America's white gang problem is worse than its black one? Its funny because no one in their right mind would believe or try to believe that to begin with, but a black terrorist group caught barely 48 hours later? Man, you've just got all the luck, huh? Maybe your people should think about firing you and hiring Bagdad Bob in your place.

    As for blacks racialist groups recieving more attention from the government, give me a break. Who do you think is listening here? Space aliens? We live in America, Floyd and we notice facts. Do you think we could march down the street carrying shot guns like the Black Panthers did? How about when they came to Vally Forge armed to the teeth? How about all the black on white murders associated directly with the Yahwee Bin Yahwee group? Ever even heard of them, Floyd?

    If you want to be anti-white, then continue being anti-white. You folks are the perfect backdrop for us, up to the point that people accuse us of paying your salary. But don't kid yourself and say you are against all racists. True, you might do a little blurb once in a while about the New Black Panther Party or someone like that. Its also true that you'd never dream of touching one of the dozens of out-in-the-open, well funded, jewish supremacy organizations. "Well, Drake, they don't say they are jewish supremacist..." Does National Vanguard say they White supremacist? Does Duke? Does really anybody?

    I'm not trying to give you productive advice here. I'm just pointing out some serious flaws in what you are saying. You're anti-white, people know you're anti-white and people expect you to continue to be. Its too late in the game to pretend to be anything different.

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  3. Well Cris you will have to tune in to next's weeks OPR program - I am going to address the issues you bring up here.

    There is no difference between this gang that was arrested for plotting to blow up the Sears Towers and the gang of whites who blew up the Fed. building in Oklahoma. Both are terrorist.

    Like I said you will have to tune in next week.

    Floyd

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  4. Wow, that was rather polite! You know who I am, right? Drake here--resisdent, BIG-TIME Nazi. Also, my first name is CHris or Christopher.

    Anyhow, so Timmy McVeigh is a white gang now? Some guy, huh? Frankly, I think he was a little on the slow side and his race mixing buddy put him up to it. Let's spend an entire day one day talking about the next week you can spend talking OCB conspiracy theory. What's not theory is that you can't be an active race mixer and in the movement in any sort of way--thats a fact. Is that what we're getting at here? McVeigh+white+terrorist=the movement? How about nukes, bio-chem+human rights violations+attacking countries without declaration of+-----Equals WHO??? Let's see you talk about that on your show. Israel: our pure-out terrorist-state, golden calf--next on OPP radio.

    Good luck on your radio show, anyhow. Maybe Noam Chomsky, jewish state-terror expert and MIT professor would love to be a guest. Watch him though. He'll tell you that the holocau$t is a straight up croak of kosher, you-know-what in a new york minute.

    Do it. I demand that Noam Chomsky, the jew, appear on your show. Tell him that the Nazis want to hear him speak but don't want him on any of their radio shows.

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  5. Yes Chris I know who you are and yes I try to be polite to all people regardless of thier political ideas.

    And I do not believe that Mcviegh was the only one involved in bombing the OK building, I think that Mark Thomas and his gang of Aryan bank robbers where also involved.

    we will be chatting on OPR next week about a lot of things - which I am sure you will find interesting.

    thanks for posting

    Floyd

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  6. Floyd...Noam Chomsky...your show...next week. I'll have Bill on my show if you get Noam on yours. Deal? Deal. Hell, who do you want? I'll put on anybody but Duke and the only reason I can't have Duke on the show is because I spent 10 minutes doing a bad impression of him last week. If I see that guy in public, I'm avoiding him and hoping he doesn't realize who I am.

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  7. Actually Chris - I have already have the guests lined up for next week's show - and personally I am not a big fan of Bill so really dont care what he has to say, about the only thing I would be interested in hearing from Bill is the following " good-bye cruel world" BAng then followed by silence.

    Floyd

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  8. Hi Chris - Floyd again - Chris you seem like an smart person - why are you a racist ?

    thanks - Floyd

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  9. Chris you wrote "Do you think we could march down the street carrying shot guns like the Black Panthers did? "

    apparently you have never been in small towns in central Pennsylvania, it is not uncommon to see people walking down the road or a street carrying guns,esp in the fall.

    Also, I willl point out that in the early 1990's when the militia movement was going strong - several militias in Michigan for instant held out door public meetings carring guns.

    Would you have shown the same concerned ?

    In 2002 I believe August Kreis from Aryan Nations was photographed with several other people all carrying guns, where was your concern then ?

    or is it that you are only concerned or afraid of People of Color with guns ?

    Floyd

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  10. Odd how only Overthrowup contains news of the alleged death of a Mr. Chris Gromburg at the order of Brien James.

    Despite the presence of a dead body, no news services have reported on the supposedly murdered Gromburg, nor have any legitimate news sites besides Overthrowup reported on Vinlander activity in recent weeks.

    Must be that ZOG conspiracy.

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  11. "...about the only thing I would be interested in hearing from Bill is the following " good-bye cruel world" BAng then followed by silence...."-Floyd Cochran

    ROTFLMAOH!

    ---
    Right on!

    Keep up the good work Floyd!

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  12. Ya know Mike, I looked all over for that as well. But then again this IS Bill White we are talking about. He wouldn't know the truth from a bag of fruit loops.

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  13. Actually there is a difference between white supremacist gangs and black supremacist gangs in terrorism.

    The white supremacist gangs actually blew something up and killed 180+ people.

    The black supremacist gang had no weapons and no bombs. They only talked about doing it.

    Now figure that Hal Turner talked about bombing federal buildings and killing judges and nothing happens to him.

    Then add Bill White praising school shootings and Vonbluvens praising the 911 attacks at first.

    Something is wrong.

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  14. HistoryMike,

    Bill White is tearing apart a white supremacist group that is at least a dozen times larger then the NSM.

    The Vinlanders draw several 100 to their events. The NSM draws a few dozen at most with their numbers declining.

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  15. Generally, as unfortunate as it may seem, you will never completely rid the world of skinheads.

    I honestly wish it could be otherwise, but even skinhead rock is mainstream now, and the style is too ingrained in the social construct. It's like "bikers", or straight-up "rednecks".

    Of course, not all Skins are racists , by an shot, but nearly all of them are a nuisance.

    Out of the "100's" that show up at a Vinlanders event, how many of them are hardcore Nazis, and how many of them are just beer-guzzling yobs?

    I bet you'd be surprised. They probably aren't as massive a force as you might think, and nearly all of them are already, most likely, "checked into the system".

    Just waiting till they commit their next felony, and the next, then BLAMMO!--twenty years behind bars, and the next one lines up to take their place.

    The NSM is more dangerous, because they linger longer, like a fart in a room, and they try to cover up their odious funk with a percentage of legal respectability.

    Look at the photos over at Billy Bumps blog--no one is EVER gonna take a skinhead crew like that seriously for ANY reason--except, maybe, as potential future wards of the prison/industrial complex!

    ROTFLMAO!

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  16. Chris,

    For a supposedly revolutionary movement, it's odd how often the NSM uncritically accepts government/MSM propaganda as fact.

    From Kurt Nimmo:


    ABC News reports: "An FBI informant posed as an emissary from al Qaeda and administered oaths of allegiance to the seven Miami men charged today with providing material support to al Qaeda…. An outline of the indictments to be announced later today indicates the men began meeting with an unnamed FBI informant in November 2005. Justice Department officials say the informant provided boots and a video camera so the men could obtain surveillance pictures of government buildings in Miami."

    In other words, this whole affair is a government set-up, engineered to hype the "homegrown" threat of domestic terrorism, that next phase of the neocon effort to trash the Constitution and further militarize society in preparation for World War Four, the generational crusade made in Israel and transplanted in America, the only nation on earth with the required military prowess and a population sufficiently brainwashed and easily frightened by phony terrorists.



    This is already bearing a striking resemblance to the arrest of the "homegrown terrorist cell" in Toronto, as well.

    If the government line is also going to be the NSM line, then ... well ... I wish I could say I'm surprised. But I clearly remember links to articles by self-serving chosenites like Melanie Phillips and Mark Steyn, as well as a reposting of a BNP article that poo-poo'd away all those who were asking perfectly legitimate, and still unanswered, questions about the 7/7 bombings in London, all appearing on the NSM homepage.

    And the government targets all those whom it believes threatens its tightening stranglehold on power equally.

    Or do you believe that those who were murdered in the MOVE bombing in Philly are any more or less dead than the Weaver family, and those immolated children in Waco.

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  17. Tim McVeigh was not in any White Supremacy gangs, nor did any White Supremacists blow anything up killing 180 people. That's a total fabrication.

    If you beleive the government reporting of events McVeigh was inspired to blow up the Murray Federal Building in retaliation for the murder of 17 children at Waco. Waco was a religious community that had negroes and multi-racial babies inside, hardly a motivation for White Supremacists.

    As far as any information about White Supremacy being connected to the OKC bombing it comes from SPLC and Morris Dees spies after the fact and if it is true then it accounts for his having direct knowledge of the bomb plot before it happend and a failure to notify the authorities.

    The only connection to McVeigh and any White Supremacist bank robbers comes from a man who was tortured to death in a federal holding cell. Somehow I don't consider that reliable information.

    As for Floyd Cockrat, I wouldn't mind hearing he smoked one too many joints some night and blew his brains out either. Someone should have helped him along with it years ago.

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  18. Hey, anonymous who posted just before I did: Any reason why you left out the OTHER thing that pissed off McVeigh, Ruby Ridge?

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  19. Ruby Ridge pissed off a lot of people. Obviously the federal government was at fault for murdering 42-year-old Mrs. Weaver, her 14-year-old son, and their family pet, a golden retriever. The millions of dolalrs in judgement against the government in a wrongful death lawsuit by her husband proves this point.

    None the less the main reason for the Oklahoma City bombing was Waco, and the Seventh Day Adventists center where the federal government burned 17 little children to death. There is little room to debate against this premise. The bombing was designed to correlate to te exact moment of the memorial ceremony to remember the victims of the Waco murders. News of the bombing was announced to the crowd of mourners at that ceremony, and the targetting of the Murray building which was headquarters to the ATF involved in the raid and served as a headquarters for the planning and execution of the raids.

    Any connection to the Ruby Ridge massacre is speculative and merely shows sympathy to the Weaver family and their tragic loss that was shared by all good Americans and people around the world. I'm sure McVeigh had heard of it as most people had. However he was not a friend or acquantaince of the Weaver family.

    As you can see that I have no hesitation to expound on this topic the ommission was only because it has little bearing on the topic of Tim McVeigh.

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  20. hey Chris

    is your butt buddy hal turner done sending us nasty emails like he been doing because really getting to the point to where im going to take the matter in my own hands and show up at hal turners house with a wire baseball bat and just beat the holy hell out of him and leave him as he is a peice of road kill for the skunks in the neighborhood to deal with of course i dont think skunks like racist like him butt thats would be my enjoyment

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  21. Ha! Now there's a threat for you! Don't worry, buddy. You can threaten away. No one's going to bother you. BTW, tell me if I'm wrong: you did a bit slamming Hal Turner and now you're mad that he wants to pick on you? I think maybe the part in the anti-white rulebook that says "just do as you please to them, they're second class citizens..." needs to be rewritten.

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  22. To answer Flyod's questions, I'm no more or less confortable around armed blacks. Heck, Forrest got away with ruining their black panther party and they were armed to the teeth! Except when I've lived outside this country, I've lived around blacks I assume were armed. More guns on the streets would likely cause non-white crime to fall, not only in our communities but in their own.

    My point was we'd NEVER be allowed to march with so much as our daggers, much less firearms. Our enemies would raise high-hell if someone we were allowed and bring it up from now to the end of time. Its just a contrast.

    And why am I racist? Why wouldn't I be? Everyone is.

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  23. Chris Drake

    who side you on hal turner side or the one peoples project side with floyd and nikki plz makeup your mind your like a mother in law with hemeroids jumping back and forth

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  24. hey Chris Drake im just saying if hal turner sends stuff like he doing all im doing is screenshot and post on the website and from his website so everyone can see it

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  25. Chris Drake got his nose so far up hal turner butt tocks he can tastye his breakfest i say

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  26. I'd side with Hal over the antis even if he ran over my dog and backed over my foot. What I'm saying is that doing a smear-piece on someone isn't easy, fair game just because they are pro-white and its the MTV thing to do. Don't come whinning like some innocent victim when they toss a stone back at you. Not everyone enjoys the smear-fest hobbies of suburbanite kids and more people are finally standing up to you people.

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  27. HAL THE CRYBABY TURNER

    TONIGHT HAL WAS WHINNG ABOUT SURPPORT TONIGHT AND STATED THAT IF HE DOESNT GET SURPPORT HE IS TERMINATING THE SHOW SO CHRIS DRAKE SINCE YOUR BUDDY IS CRYING PLZ GO CHANGE HIS DIAPER PLZ AND TELL HIM LIGHTENING SAID STOP ACTING LIKE A BABY AND GROW UP

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  28. Here's my view on Hal and his show, since it seems so important to everyone. Hal's listeners have every right under US law to send money to Hal. Under the same system, Hal has every right to make a living from what he does. He didn't join the clergy. He can make a living being an angry white guy same as Howard Stern can make a living being a creapy jew. If someone wants to send Hal money because they like his show, then fine. He can spend it all at party-dollar for all I care.

    Hal says a lot of over the top stuff. He says things I wouldn't dream of saying, even if I did think they needed to be said, on my radio show. I consider it entertainment, though. Apparently all of Hal's listeners feel the same way since no one has ever acted on Hal's zanny proposals to kill people and what not.

    I think a lot of recovering neo-cons like Hal's show along with a lot of leaderless resistance types. Unless they are very old, they've grown up listening and seeing their existence threatened, in one way or another. They get a kick out of hearing someone threatening back. I don't get much out of "someone should kill Mckinney" but some people do. Anyone who thinks this is horrifying, obviously has never sat in on many black church services in the South. They "vent" worse than Hal Turner does and they are supposed to be in church.

    Hal's an easy target. He says shocking things and asks for money.

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  29. Chris said...
    "Hal's listeners have every right under US law to send money to Hal. Under the same system, Hal has every right to make a living from what he does."

    Normally I would agree with this statement. However, since he chooses to make a living inciting others to commit crimes, calling for assassinations, and recommending violence, I tend to think otherwise. The entire idea of "Freedom of Speech" is being bastardized by the neo-Nazi's. When your freedom of speech interferes with others being secure in their existence, your right ends. Take for example, Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney from your neck of the woods. I don't agree with a lot of what she says. I would probably never cast a vote for her. But calling for her to be lynched along the campaign trail - is, to me, criminal. While I don't care for her politics I respect her right to run for office and to seek reelection. She should be able to do that without being threatened or feeling unsafe.

    Chris said...
    " If someone wants to send Hal money because they like his show, then fine. He can spend it all at party-dollar for all I care."

    Ya know, you are right - however, we will continue to point out that Hal is a con man and a manipulator and those who donate have been bamboozled or are really not very smart. Additionally, Hal manages to garner a lot of information about those who send in checks and use credit cards. Hence, many people are being put at risk if there is any credence to him being an informant. Now, you might not care about that either, but I see it as something that should alarm a lot of people.

    Chris said...
    "Hal says a lot of over the top stuff. He says things I wouldn't dream of saying, even if I did think they needed to be said, on my radio show. I consider it entertainment, though. Apparently all of Hal's listeners feel the same way since no one has ever acted on Hal's zanny proposals to kill people and what not."

    All it takes is one unstable individual - you know that. And...why wouldn't you say the same thing if you thought it needed to be said? Additionally, "entertainment?" What is entertaining about inciting people to do harm to others? If Hal's claims to number of listeners are true (which they aren't) and if his listeners see this as "entertaining," then we have an even bigger problem than we thought.

    Chris said...
    "I think a lot of recovering neo-cons like Hal's show along with a lot of leaderless resistance types."

    You will have to enlighten me as to what you consider a "recovering neo-con." As to the leaderless resistance types - they are precisely the ones who need to be watched 24/7.

    Chris said...
    "Unless they are very old, they've grown up listening and seeing their existence threatened, in one way or another. They get a kick out of hearing someone threatening back. I don't get much out of "someone should kill Mckinney" but some people do."

    I don't think age is a factor here. I think emotional and psychological stability is a factor along with morals and values. Now, as I live in the real world, and I have a good social life and working environment and meet new people on a daily basis - I can honestly tell you that outside of a handful of Nazi's the vast majority of white people never even consider their race let alone that their race is "threatened."

    Your "truth" Chris is not necessarily the "truth" of the masses. We all come into this realm with our own "truths." Sometimes we see that what we believed to be true is not that way at all - but by and large it is all about perception.

    Chris said...
    "Anyone who thinks this is horrifying, obviously has never sat in on many black church services in the South. They "vent" worse than Hal Turner does and they are supposed to be in church."

    How many black church services in the South or elsewhere have you sat in on, Chris? Sure, some preach hell-fire-and-brimstone, but not all. And that is true of white churches as well. But to attempt to ameliorate Turner's call for murder and mayhem by pointing at church services is bordering on the ridiculous.

    Chris said...
    "Hal's an easy target. He says shocking things and asks for money."

    No - it's not about being an easy target. It's about values and what is moral, right, and just in accordance with mainstream society. The NSM claims to be against violence - yet, you and others can condone or attempt to explain away some of the most violent messages to come out of the movement - how is that?

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  30. I'm not with the whole "kill 'em all" bit that makes Hal famous. Obviously. I guess Hal thinks it makes people see how serious he and his people feel about the non-white and jewish threat in this country. I'm not saying its right or wrong, its just what it is.

    As far as it "taking only one unstable individual...", yeah, you're right. It would take someone off their rocker or a lot of very angry people, take your pick. People have killed people because they saw it done on the Matrix. I guess the unstable individual becomes a huge problem when we're talking about non-white, let alone, jewish life. This kind of sounds like the old, conservative Christian arguement against Ozzy.

    Cynthia McKinny had lots to worry about, even from her own community, before Hal came along. Should Hal threaten her too? Probably not unless Hal wants to go to prison.

    A recovering neo-con is just a term I coined to describe a "compassionate" conservative who decided to stop being a closet racist and be a semi-open one. They were the folks the NA were going to lead to victory by dressing in suits and what not.

    Older folks didn't grow up being fed communist dogma from day one. Some remember better times, although the better times were comparable to the times an AIDS infected hooker DIDN'T have AIDS yet as opposed to "currently-does."
    Look at me. Any racialist education I got, I got outside the school and outside the home, growing up.

    Black churches are where at least 80% of the kill-whitey stuff has traditionally came from when not spoon-fed by the jews. Why did the Klan attack black churches? First, to them it was a mockery of what a church should be used for. Second, it was the black's "burn-baby-burn" idea center. I can't explain why the jews, who we never heard anything else about, recently burned all those churches in Alabama. The violent talk still goes on here in the south, followed up by violent action from blacks.

    Its Friday and I've got to go find some fun. In closing, I'd like to state that I'm not speaking on the behalf of the NSM. I'm not really defending Hal in an enfevered way either. In any case, I promise to come back and respond to the rest of what you asked.

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  31. Lighting Radio -please contact me

    at frcochran@yahoo.com

    would like to chat

    Floyd Cochran

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  32. http://lighteningradio.blogspot.com/ my blog for those wanting to comment ok floyd

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  33. Lightening Radio
    check your email - I jsut sent you a couple - then get back to me - I dont have a blogger account - so I post anonymous - Floyd

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  34. Ok, back to where we were. You think people are generally not racist. Thats a funny statement. First off, I wouldn't doubt you live in an all white or mostly white area. Most anti-racist do. I, however don't.

    Take me for example. I'm generally the type to take a little while, keep my mouth shut and figure people out when I first meet them. I don't talk about myself much but instead try to listen and observe. I showed up at a neighborhood party once a while back. It was a pretty white scene. Good liquer, decent wine--you get the picture. Someone approaches the stereo and puts in some sort of rap music. You would have thought someone had began ripping apart a bible while stomping on the American flag. Immediately the guy next to me shouts "Turn that nigger shit off now or leave!" The person did. All of a sudden, the guy wheels around to me and starts apologizing for using the "N" word. I thought it was the funniest thing ever. I assured him that I wasn't offended and he wasn't in communist Russia attending a party with the NKVD. After he saw I wasn't going to give him a speach on what better language and behavior the jews expected of him, he and a small crowd of people started complaining about all form and natures of non-whites. Note: I doubt much to do with jews crossed his mind. They went on and on. I just stood there and listened, like its my nature to do. It was the typical talk I had heard 50 times before and about 50 times since. I'd hear the same talk in the lunch room, at the pub, in the doctor's office and around the water-cooler. Of course the conversation clams up when certain people walk up. I'm not talking about non-whites necessarily. Sometimes, the people holding the conversation will get brave and continue talking about non-whites in a negative way even in the presence of non-whites, forgetting that they could lose everything for questioning jewish social-law. For example, a black guy might walk up and one white guy might as a logical question, "why can you go anywhere you want in the white part of town but I can't go into the black part of town?" (I feel like answering it for him and saying "because you're too much of a pussy to throw him out and you look like an easy victim when in his neck of the woods--I go anywhere I please"). Who they clam up around is the self-appointed, anti-racist political police. If someone, for example, who is a grandmother raising her daughter's non-white child, walks up--they go mute. They know that either she will report them for being racist-terrorist or at the very least give them a Bible thumping. They get quiet around the party-girl who has black boyfriends, who during brief periods of being sober, gives lectures on the evils of racism like she was a proud PHD with israeli flags flapping in the breaze behind her. They shut up when anyone who has sold their people out in one way or another comes on the scene.

    To me its like the mannerisms that straight people take around homosexuals. Its not that homos want "acceptance," they want endorsement. You can always spot one who truely thinks what he or she is doing is sick and wrong because they won't shut up about it--checking and gauging your reactions as a way to justify themselves to themselves in their mind, as well as to you. Its not so much that you are expected to justify their behavior in your mind, you are expected to assist them with justifying theirs. You can either pat them on the back and reassure them or at the very least, keep your mouth shut. Take a guy in the racialist movement, me for example, I'll just go ahead and tell them to take their assualt on nature somewhere else. Once the closet "homophobes" see someone doing something assertive and unafraid of being scolded, they all of a sudden come out with how they really feel too. Did me telling the fag to can his or her behavior and take a hike, make the others around me anti-homosexual? Of course not. They just got a little social courage instilled in them through example.

    Thats why fear is an important thing to the anti-white movement. Its not so much fear of physical harm (even though we see thats a last resort after taking someone's rights "legally). Its a social fear that is important to "keep America tolerant." Ironically, the word tolerance implies that you have to put up with something out of fear. Its not that people are "turned into racists" by the racialist movement. The people were already racist as a rule. All the racialist movement did was remove their fear of being hurt socially. Sometimes it takes away the fear of being hurt financially, physically and emotionally. That's when they are really dangerous, huh? In closing, take away the fear and your movement has no power. The old communist system was no exception. Without fear of the state backed by the jewish NKVD and later KGB, the message of communism was an outdated, bad idea.

    Remember: threaten their job, their education, their family and their well-being---and then tell them you did it for a "kinder, gentler world."

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  35. Let me know if I missed anything. I'm not saying I didn't.

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  36. lightening radio said...
    hal turners trying a new tactic i see this was off his webpage today and also i will be on vacation monday tuesday for the holiday

    NEW:
    HAL TURNER
    "INNER CIRCLE!"
    If you live in the New Jersey, New York City Area . . . . .
    and would like to get together with me (and other like-minded folks) from time to time to socialize, talk about the radio show, web site or "other issues" please get in touch with me!!!
    Doing the radio show is fun for me, but socializing and enjoying the company of like-minded folks is better.
    If you live locally and would like to get together to forge friendships and create a sort of "inner circle" please e-mail me so we can arrange something.

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  37. Chris Drake you did miss something how does hal turners breakfest taste you know why i say that because you surpport idiots like hal turner dont you see what a fool you are . dont you know there is a thing called hate crime ? dont you understand that you can go to prison up to 5 to 10 yrs in prison ? or are you just palin stupid ? if you surpport that idiot hal turner than your no better than he is because racial hate is a crime infact your a violation of a crime if i can get your ip from the ones peoples project i would trace that ip inform the fbi and your isp for 2nd degree aggavated harrassment and 1 count of hate crime and beieve me i can make your life a living hell so either cut the crap or i will ask them to forward that ip to me and i can get your name address city and state from the people of the police dept in my area and forward it to your local police dept to confeiscate your computer and hard drive and send it off to the fbi ok and im not no manzy panzy either

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  38. post Chris Drake ip on here i will trace it and send them a notice of harrassment in the 2nd ok floyd its a federal offense to use hate crimes on the internet and i might be able to use cyber torrorism also ok

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  39. lightening radio leave Chris Drake alone ok because i know who you are hal turner gave me you name and address and where you are asshole

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  40. wow no one like you lightening radio on this blog what dont you take a hike faggot

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  41. anyone want to post on my blog plz use this http://www.haloscan.com/comments/lrn/__BlogItemNumber__/

    lightening radio i will check it daily chris i dare you to make a stupid comment on my blog

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    HAL TURNER LIES ABOUT THE AGE CHANGE IN THE DRAFT FROM 18 YRS OLD TO 25 YRS OLD MAKES FAULSE CLAIMS IT WILL BE 18 YRS OLD TO 41 WE HAVE THE TOP STORY OF ALL THE LIES HE POSTED ON HIS WEBSITE
    FOR WEEKS RACIST MAD RADIO HOST HAL TURNER MAKES FAULSE STATEMENTS ON HIS WEBSITE CLAIMING THAT THE DRAFT AGE WILL CHANGE WE CONTACTED SELECTIVE SERVICE AND VERIFY THIS STORY . IT SEEMS HAL TURNER KNOWN RACIST CANT PROVIDE TRUTH TO ANY OF HIS STATEMENTS WE LEARN TO DAY FROM THE SELECTIVE SERVICE THERE IS NO DRAFT CHANGE INFACT WE ARE GOING TO POST THERE STATEMENT HERE AND PROVIDE YOU WITH INFORMATION ABOUT SIGNING UP ITS THE LAW

    Dear Sir:

    The age change you mentioned below is NOT true. Please carefully read the information provided below:

    WHO MUST REGISTER:

    Virtually all young men who are U.S. citizens and “immigrant” male aliens living in the U.S. (both documented and undocumented) between the ages of 18 through 25 years must register with Selective Service, in accordance with Federal law. We do accept late registrations, even though men are required to register within 30 days of their 18th birthday. However, once a man reaches age 26, we cannot, per law, accept his registration. Even men with handicaps, missing a limb, blind, etc., are required to register. There is no draft at present and therefore, no classifying being done. The last man was drafted in 1973, after which the U.S. converted to an all-volunteer military. However, Congress and the President still require men to register and the Selective Service System is kept in a standby status, just in case a future crisis necessitates a return to the draft. Only at that time would you receive an induction notice to report for mental, physical, and moral aptitude testing and being classified. By registering, a man complies with Federal law, and he also keeps himself eligible for programs and benefits Congress has connected to the registration requirement. A man must be registered to stay eligible for student loans and grants for college, most Federal employment, all background security clearances, many state jobs, vocational training under the Workforce Investment Act, and citizenship (if he is not yet a U.S. citizen). Several states have also now passed State Legislation requiring a man to be registered in order to obtain a new or renew an old State Driver’s License, or obtain an identification Card.
    HOW TO REGISTER:IF you are between the ages of 18 through 25 years and have a valid social security number, you may register on-line by visiting our web site: http://www.sss.gov, click on “Register on-line Now”, fill in the on-screen form that appears (using no punctuation), and click on “Submit.” If you have successfully registered and all your information matches our database, your Registration Number and date of registration will appear immediately. Print out this “official” on-line verification page to use as proof of your registration, until your new Registration Acknowledgment Card, listing you Registration Number, arrives in the mail within 4 to 6 weeks. When this card arrives, confirm that all the information listed is correct. Please keep this important document in a safe place, for future use throughout your entire life. You are not currently required to carry this document on your person; just keep it safe.

    IF you should receive a message on-line that your information does not match or is not yet listed in our database, you MUST obtain a Selective Service mail-back registration card from any U.S. Post Office (or just use the registration reminder card you may have received in the mail), fill it out (leaving the spaces for your Social Security Number blank, if you have not yet obtained one), sign, and return to the address provided on the card. You will receive your new Registration Acknowledgment Card, listing your Registration Number, in the mail within approximately 45 days. Confirm that all the information listed on this new card is correct. Please keep this important document in a safe place, for future use throughout your entire life. You are not currently required to carry this document on your person; just keep it safe. OR: Here is the link to the registration mail-back form: http://www4.sss.gov/regver/sssRegform.pdf Users should be directed to this form if on-line registration fails. Print out this form, complete it, using black ink and printing clearly (leaving the spaces for your Social Security Number blank, if you have not yet obtained one), sign, enclose in an envelope with appropriate postage attached, and mail to the address provided on the form.

    Thanks for writing, and I hope the above provided information proves helpful.

    Janice L. Hughes

    Public and Intergovernmental Affairs

    Selective Service System

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    if you dont register this is what happends

    Registration is the law. A man who fails to register may, if prosecuted and convicted, face a fine of up to $250,000 and/or a prison term of up to five years.

    Even if not tried, a man who fails to register with Selective Service before turning age 26 may find that some doors are permanently closed.

    See also Men over the age of eligibility to register.
    See also What Does Selective Service Provide for America.

    Register Now! - Register on-line.

    STUDENT FINANCIAL AID
    Men, born after December 31, 1959, who aren't registered with Selective Service won't qualify for Federal student loans or grant programs. This includes Pell Grants, College Work Study, Guaranteed Student/Plus Loans, and National Direct Student Loans.

    CITIZENSHIP
    The U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) makes registration with Selective Service a condition for U.S. citizenship if the man first arrived in the U.S. before his 26th birthday.

    FEDERAL JOB TRAINING
    The Workforce Investment Act (formerly called the Job Training Partnership Act - JTPA) offers programs that can train young men for jobs in auto mechanics and other skills. This program is only open to those men who register with Selective Service. Only men born after December 31, 1959, are required to show proof of registration.

    FEDERAL JOBS
    A man must be registered to be eligible for jobs in the Executive Branch of the Federal government and the U.S. Postal Service. Proof of registration is required only for men born after December 31, 1959.

    Some states have added additional penalties for those who fail to register. See State Legislation.

    Selective Service wants young men to register. It does not want them to be prosecuted or denied benefits. If a draft is ever needed, it must be as fair as possible, and that fairness depends on having as many eligible men as possible registered. In the event of a draft, for every man who fails to register, another man would be required to take his place in service to his country.

    WOMEN AND THE DRAFT


    Women Aren't Required to Register
    Here's why:
    THE LAW
    Selective Service law as it's written now refers specifically to "male persons" in stating who must register and who would be drafted. For women to be required to register with Selective Service, Congress would have to amend the law.

    THE SUPREME COURT
    The constitutionality of excluding women was tested in the courts. A Supreme Court decision in 1981, Rostker v. Goldberg, held that registering only men did not violate the due process clause of the Constitution.

    DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
    At President Clinton's request, the Department of Defense reviewed this issue in 1994. DoD noted that America's prior drafts were used to supply adequate numbers of Army ground combat troops. Because women are excluded by policy from front line combat positions, excluding them from the draft process remains justifiable in DoD's view. Although no conclusions were reached, DoD recognized that policies regarding women need to be reviewed periodically because the role of women in the military continues to expand.

    The Selective Service System, if given the mission and additional funding, is capable of registering and drafting women with its existing infrastructure.

    (A backgrounder on Women and the Draft is available at this site.)

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  43. NEITHER GUILTY
    Tuesday, July 11, 2006
    • NEITHER GUILTY
    NORTH BERGEN - A municipal court judge dismissed the dueling assault complaints filed by radio talk show host Hal Turner and former Jersey City Councilman Jaime Vazquez, ruling the court couldn't determine who was telling the truth about their April scuffle outside Turner's home.
    Turner 'pleased'; Vazquez vows civil suit
    Tuesday, July 11, 2006
    By BONNIE FRIEDMANJOURNAL STAFF WRITER
    NORTH BERGEN - A municipal court judge dismissed the dueling assault complaints filed by radio talk show host Hal Turner and former Jersey City Councilman Jaime Vazquez, ruling the court couldn't determine who was telling the truth about their April scuffle outside Turner's home.
    "Frankly, I find both witnesses to be credible," said Judge Joseph I. Romano. "I find both witnesses to be vehement in espousing their views and because their views diverge, there has to be some tension. Who pushed who is something this court cannot determine beyond a reasonable doubt." The judge found each man not guilty of the assault charges, and also found Vazquez not guilty of an additional harassment charge.
    Vazquez's confrontation with Turner, who has a Web site espousing white supremacist views, took place two days after an immigration-rights rally in Liberty State Park.
    Turner, who hired an airplane to carry a banner with an anti-Mexican slur over the rally, later told The Jersey Journal that since illegal immigrants were breaking the law, "people like me" could break the law as well by "shooting them down."
    After reading Turner's comments, Vazquez marched outside Turner's Paterson Plank Road condominium complex in his Marine uniform, carrying a sign reading: "Hal Turner - shoot me! Racists and bigots like you are cowards."
    Phyllis Turner, Hal's wife, was first to take the stand, testifying Vazquez cursed at her and her 11-year-old son as they pulled up to the condominium complex on April 12.
    Hal Turner said he then grabbed his digital camera and went outside to confront a "wild-eyed" Vazquez, who he said continued to curse at him.
    "Mr. Vazquez got so close that his nose and my nose were astride each other," Turner testified. "Mr. Vazquez (refused to leave) and he shoved me. I felt threatened, and then I shoved him back."
    Turner said he didn't push the much smaller Vazquez hard enough to knock the man down, but Vazquez fell anyway.
    I put him in the gutter where he belonged," an angry Turner said. "If I wanted to hurt him, he would have been hurt."
    Vazquez was later treated for a broken left wrist. He also said he hurt his back in the fall.
    Vazquez, a Vietnam veteran and the director of the Jersey City Office of Veterans Affairs, said he never insulted Phyllis Turner and never used foul or threatening language.
    Instead, Vazquez said, Turner blocked his path and told him to "get off his sidewalk." Then, Vazquez said, Turner stepped on his toe and pushed him, causing him to lose his balance and fall to the ground.
    "He said, 'You either leave on your own or you leave in an ambulance,'" Vazquez said, "and then he pushed me down and I left in an ambulance."
    Immediately after the verdict, Vazquez said he was disappointed by the judge's decision, adding that he planned to file a civil suit against Turner.
    "We made our point," Vazquez said. "Whenever racism rears its ugly head, we have to be there to confront it."
    Turner said simply: "I am very pleased with the outcome."
    On his Web site, Turner claimed he was accompanied in court by an imperial wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and a member of the National Vanguard, a white separatist organization.
    "The contingency plans I made privately with National Vanguard, the Ku Klux Klan, Aryan Nations and the National Socialist (NAZI) Movement will not be needed. I thank those folks for being willing to step up in service to our race and in defense of me," Turner wrote yesterday on his Web site, without explaining the nature of those contingency plans.

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  44. HAL TURNER PAID OFF THE JUDGE PEOPLE WE KNOW THAT ALLREADY OR MAYBE THE JUDGE IS A RACIST WITH HAL TURNER OR MAYBE A KKK MEMBER OR A NEO NAZI DID ANYONE REALLY THINK OF THAT

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  45. HAL TURNER PAID OFF THE JUDGE PEOPLE WE KNOW THAT ALLREADY OR MAYBE THE JUDGE IS A RACIST WITH HAL TURNER OR MAYBE A KKK MEMBER OR A NEO NAZI DID ANYONE REALLY THINK OF THAT

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