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MISTRIAL! ONE JUROR TWISTS AND TURNS HAL TURNER CASE INTO ONE HUGE MESS
Hal Turner is saying that he is not a white supremacist, and considering he owes his fate to Hispanic and Indian lawyers, and now as we learn an Asian juror, he should never be! A judge declared a mistrial in his case and will be retried, thanks to a juror named Wei Wang, a self-described First Amendment juror who deadlocked the jury with what looks to be his own interpretation of the law and how it should be applied. The prosecution is heated right now. They never liked Wang as a juror, particularly after when he was seated he suggested that he could not be impartial! And we have never seen a judge grant a mistrial, leave the courtroom, and say "I changed my mind!" The only thing quicker than that would more than likely have been the appeal that was filed if Turner was found guilty! But Wang, it turns out, is not the only concern as we head into the retrial on March 1. Truth of the matter is only three jurors found him guilty. If that's the case, the prosecution is going to have a hell of a time trying to change that around, and conventional wisdom says they probably won't. We will find out in a few months, we suppose.
One People's Project
BROOKLYN, NY - The Hal Turner trial was rather uneventful during the two-day proceedings, but one juror has changed all that during deliberations. After the second note from the jury saying they were "hopelessly deadlocked", Judge Don Walter declared a mistrial.
The issues began when a series of notes from juror Wei Wang were sent to the court asking various questions concerning what constituted free speech and if historical Supreme Court decisions be applied to the jury's decision. This prompted calls for Wang's removal by the prosecution, a call that they have made repeatedly during the trial, particularly once they began deliberating. The defense meanwhile called for a mistrial, which Judge Don Walter granted. However, Judge Walter returned to the courtroom seconds later, said "I changed my mind," and said the jury should deliberate through lunch and afterwards if they were still deadlocked, the mistrial will be granted again.
Wang reportedly prompted concerns about him right after the jury was initially seated. Just before they were sworn in, jurors were excused for lunch. Wang returned saying that Hal Turner sounded "vaguely familiar" and that it might have through reading past court documents. Wang, who works for a hedge fund, has no legal training and says he studies the First Amendment as a "hobby". "If this case has something to do with freedom of speech as such, I don't know if I can be an impartial juror," Wang told the court that day, saying he had a strong belief in freedom of speech.
As deliberations went on, Wang's impartiality became an even greater concern with the notes, four of the five of them signed by Wang, not the foreperson. "It is apparent that somebody in there (the deliberating room) is arguing law that I didn't give them," Judge Walter said, sending instructions that the jury cannot interpret law for themselves. Judge Walter also sent instructions that only the foreman can sign letters, the next letter was signed by Wang who had become the foreperson. It was he who, when the jury entered the courtroom declared that the jury could not reach a verdict.
Richard Gardner, a truck driver from Nassau County, was one of the jurors in the case and said only three voted to convict. He said that the biggest problem in the case was that the prosecution bailed out in the case too early. Prosecutor William Hogan chose not to respond to Mr. Gardner's opinion.
Judge Walker is allowing computer access restricted to only Hal Turner's son, the only change to Turner's bail conditions that he changed. The prosecution also called for the "Friends of Hal Turner" blog to be taken down, but the prosecution said that it was a blog operated by the family, not Turner. The judge ruled in favor of the defense, but said he will be monitoring the blog. A gag order was also put on the prosecution and defense.
The retrial will begin on March 1 in the Eastern District of New York.
First, let me give a big thanks to Daryle Lamont Jenkins and OPP for keeping us updated and giving us a first-hand look into the events surrounding this courtroom circus.
While, I understand that the juror in question posed a major problem for this case, I think it is important to note that from everything that I have read and heard about this "trial," it appears that the competence of the presiding judge should certainly be in question.
Additionally, the prosecution definitely blinked. Whether that was intentional or happened out of simple arrogance is a matter for further debate.
The sad thing is that should the trial begin anew in March, nothing much will be gained. There will be no possible precedent setting decisions on First Amendment rights. There will be no definitive findings. All that could possibly be accomplished is another huge waste of taxpayer dollars.
What should occur, in my opinion, is an investigation into the practices of federal law-enforcement and their use of paid informants. Following that, it should be decided that the monies expended by cities and citizens around the country because of their orchestrated entrapments and demonstrations be returned, with interest, to every one of those entities.
Hal Turner, The Teflon Blogger.
ReplyDeleteOh YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No dipshit, Hal Turner the snitch. The broke snitch because retrial starts March 1. The Prosecutor is already moving to have Hal's documents about being an FBI snitch thrown out of court. Hal is fucked.
ReplyDeleteI don't think they are, Mike. All of their witnesses in this trial were five FBI agents and a US Marshall. All of them testified for the prosecution that Turner was an informant. I don't know if they can discuss the case without that coming up.
ReplyDeleteQUESTION: Does anyone know if this thing does make it to a new trial:
ReplyDelete1)Can new evidence be presented?
2)Can new witnesses be called?
3)Will a new judge be assigned?
Nikki,
ReplyDeleteDo you hear from Tony Willow anymore? She was the "legal eagle"
Hal is posting on family-of-hal-turner.blogspot.com
ReplyDeleteIf it was an all white jury Hal would have been convicted. Most minorities are well aware of government shenanigans and are willing to listen to the other side of the story.
ReplyDeleteThis whole fucking thing is a farce...but the government will continue to waste taxpayer money in this hopeless bid to diminish our rights of speech.
I couldn't say it any better than the family of Hal:
"It is long settled in the USA that advocating violence is lawful as long as it is done in a context which does not lend itself to imminent lawlessness. That precedent was established in the case "Brandenberg v. Ohio" back in 1969 and has been rock-solid free speech case law ever since."
I guess they don't like Orozco talking to the media, eh.
ReplyDeleteThe media did a good job covering this story--I guess a little too well.
Hats off to DLJ for covering this story.
ReplyDeleteOf course it was a mistrial, he was working for the FBI. Why is stuff like this news to people? He was paid to do it on purpose, it doesn’t make it right, but why is he the only fall guy? This is fact, not some conspiracy. Read the news people. This is common knowledge. Why isn’t the FBI talking about this? Why isn’t anyone questioning them? How come people bickering about left/right politics don’t see that Glenn Beck (who has hi-jacked a legitimate movement that existed during the bush administration) and others (yes Olberman!) could just as easily be in similar programs that Hal Turner was in?Provoking Violence, Leading any resistance to tyrants astray.
ReplyDeleteWell...it will be interesting to see just how inept this judge really is and whether or not he REALLY monitors the family blog. Bet he doesn't.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDeleteOf course it was a mistrial, he was working for the FBI. Why is stuff like this news to people? He was paid to do it on purpose, it doesn’t make it right, but why is he the only fall guy? This is fact, not some conspiracy. Read the news people. This is common knowledge. Why isn’t the FBI talking about this? Why isn’t anyone questioning them? How come people bickering about left/right politics don’t see that Glenn Beck (who has hi-jacked a legitimate movement that existed during the bush administration) and others (yes Olberman!) could just as easily be in similar programs that Hal Turner was in?Provoking Violence, Leading any resistance to tyrants astray.
GOOD QUESTIONS, ALL.
Actually, maybe it's time for the appropriate Congressional committee to convene hearings and subpoena FBI officials to start answering some tough questions. Namely, who made the decision to pay Hal Turner to urge people to kill judges and cops on his Internet radio program for five years, and why was this authorized.
ReplyDeleteConsidering that the first WTC explosion in 1993 was an FBI ops that went wrong (the FBI was supposed to substitute a harmless explosive at the last minute and failed to do so), it seems like the FBI, at least at the very top, is just as much an enemy to the USA as al-Qaeda.
I think many of the rank-and-file FBI agents are probably O.K., but the leadership is utterly corrupt.
Michael Burks isn't even White how the fuck is he a "White Natioalist" let alone a nazi.
ReplyDeleteHe must be another fed himself.
Some annonymous Peckerwood said:
ReplyDeleteConsidering that the first WTC explosion in 1993 was an FBI ops that went wrong (the FBI was supposed to substitute a harmless explosive at the last minute and failed to do so), it seems like the FBI, at least at the very top, is just as much an enemy to the USA as al-Qaeda.
Where do the stupid fucks who post on this blog come from? You actually believe that shit? If you do then you should go to your doctor and ask him if you're retarded.
Chief - Before you run your piehole any more, you can read about the FBI's oversight of the WTC 1993 ops HERE, which actually cross-posts an article from the New York Times. It confirms the FBI was supposed to have substituted a harmless powder for the explosive material.
ReplyDeleteTHE JURY IS IN AND THE VERDICT IS ABSOLUTE: MICHAEL BURKS IS WORKING FOR THE FEDS.
ReplyDeleteHOW MUCH DO THEY PAY YOU?
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ReplyDeleteMike Roland said...
ReplyDeleteIsis was busted for cocaine and pot yesterday.
I removed her personal information. That was not necessary.
Now...can anyone confirm this?
Nikki, you can't blame the judge--seriously.
ReplyDeleteBesides the complete and udder stupidity of Michael Blevins the thing that makes me laugh the most about the comments section of his blog is the conspiracy theorists. They see stupid complicated explanations of events when the truth is before their eyes.
ReplyDeleteOne thing I've learned in my long years of government service is that our government is incapable of keeping big secrets. So to piss on you retards parade: Oswall did kill JFK and the United States Government did not do 911. So take off your pointy tin foil hats and shut the fuck up.
Mike Blevins doesn't have a blog.
ReplyDeleteNikki, the LEFT has their Hal Turner types as well
ReplyDeleteThe government is controlling(AND DIRECTING THEM)all of these groups are steered...ALL OF THEM.
Boa, why in the world would anyone here or elsewhere believe a goddamn thing you have to say when you brag about working for the federal government? a government, btw, that pays provacateurs like Hal Turner and then tries to deny all culpability. I could go on and on about it. Agencies in the federal government working with no oversight whatsoever(not even congress). No accountablitlity whatsoever. There should be public oversight hearings in congress concerning the Hal Turner case.
ReplyDeleteI have to doubt the credibility of anyone that would argue against it.
Nikki should be shouting from the rooftops this very issue.
Boa, you have no credibility around here.
In my humble opinion, and without being too periphrastic, it should be apparent to everyone(as it has been proven in the past with cointelpro operations--look it up) that the intelligence community has no problem ignoring laws and sometimes even breaking them in their attempt in reaching their objectives.
ReplyDeleteIf Vonbluvens has a blog, we need to know about it.
ReplyDeleteNo, Nikki I was not busted for pot and coke.
ReplyDeleteDuring a FED raid when the FEDS took ll my photos plus more, they found a very small amount of pot.
But, it had nothing to do with the raid.
The raid was a red scare action done by the Bush admn as part of their attack on independent leftist media.
Nothing to do with drugs, no charges, no crime committed.
Hence, I have a nice big law suit.
You can look up the court docs, they are online.
You can ask Daryle about the details.
If figures, Isis is fucking that nigger DLJ.
ReplyDeleteThanks for clearing that up, Isis. I have read about the lawsuit. Good luck with that. There's just a lot of misinformation being thrown around out there.
ReplyDeleteYeah there are a few vindictive people here Nikki and stories get bigger each time they're told.
ReplyDeleteBoa: I too have worked for the government and while I am not a big conspiracy person, I have a question for you. Do you believe everything our government tells us? Where is this blog of Vons? Sometimes I wonder if you don't see Von everywhere, kind of like Roger Wiseman used to think everything was posted by Lloyd Davies.
Every time I start thinking about the whole Hal Turner thing I start getting pissed off. I pay taxes and I really don't like to see it thrown down a rat hole. I can't see anyone paying an idiot like Hal a red cent.
Nikki- no prob. I never cared for coke except maybe for the cola.
ReplyDeleteThank you for the well wishes. It has been a hard ordeal.
The good thing is that a very good law firm is taking my case pro bono so I am trying to remain positive.
It seems to be a case of a very over zealous JTTF agent with very poor judgement.
There is more to this agent and his agenda and what he has been doing to a lot of activists here in DC area that are outside the scope of what he is legally allowed to do.
What he did to me was way over the top and he really screwed up big time for doing what he did to me.
A quasi FED badge does not give you the right to terrorize and steal from those whose political ideals you disagree with, and that is what this JTTF agent is doing.
As 16 FED agents were tearing my home apart they asked me what kind of American I thought I was, and why I had certain books on my book shelves.
Then they stole my cameras, mem stix, computers, hard drives, back-ups, basically all my work and the stuff to continue my photography.
We are going to make sure the government pays for this.
If you would like me to come on as a guest for Cold Shot and talk about it? My lawyers are now saying I can talk about it in public.
"It seems to be a case of a very over zealous JTTF agent with very poor judgement."--Isis
ReplyDeleteSeems to be a lot of that going around these days. Though you and I are on opposite sides of the political fence, and I despise your politics(yes we have met), I wish you well, though I am hopeful this educates you and others concerning persecutions of those that are on the right.
Well, at least people like Isis can get pro bono representation...no such luck for the "haters".
ReplyDeleteKnow what I am sayin'?
Nikki should have Isis on the show...for nothing else than to educate the public about rogue government agents.
ReplyDeleteHmmmmm....
ReplyDeleteIsis, obviously you have been talking to someone you shouldn't have, otherwise why would you have been raided?
If I were you I would be doing a little bit of deduction. I can assure you it will be the last person you suspect.
A word to the wise is sufficient.
Unless Nikki wants to subject herself to the same type of harassment Isis is getting at the hands of our wonderful government, it would be wise if she avoided this thing like a hot potato.
ReplyDeleteIsis:
ReplyDeleteI am sorry to hear of your troubles. I will keep you in my prayers tonight, and will add you to the list of people I regularly pray for until this is resolved.
Actually, I think doing a Cold Shot on this subject is a very good idea. I would love to have Isis on and anyone else who can intelligently discuss what is going on with this out-of-control mess.
ReplyDeleteIsis and anyone else who is interested, drop me a line at nicolenichols@sbcglobal.net and I will set it up.
This is great news, Snitch Hal reporting that he is not a White Supremacist. So he is one of you clowns. He has been an anti in disguise all this time working on his entrapment scheme while you radical lefties talk shit about him.
ReplyDeleteI think you all owe Hal a public apology as he went from enemy number one to your hero overnight.
Uh...Hooch please. That is beneath you. ;)
ReplyDeleteLOL, It's not too far beneath me sweety.
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